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OfflineJrsyHomegrown
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1st time monotub
    #28145456 - 01/18/23 06:02 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)





Hello everyone!

    First time monotub grower here, and just looking for some insight from all you groovy dudes, and dudetts. Just introduced fruiting conditions to my tub on the 13th.  Conditions of tub are 70-75 degrees and a humidity of 90-95%.

I apologize if pics are not great, I can take more today after work. But with everything described, when should primordia start forming? Genetics are purple mystic from pwnspore.

Thank you in advance everyone!

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145457 - 01/18/23 06:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Looks a bit funky but could be because of foggy picture. What substrate did you use?
Sorry but hard to answer your question with those pics. The humidity part sounds good.


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Thugnar] * 1
    #28145459 - 01/18/23 06:09 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

That looks dry as fuck and chunky as fuck. What did you do this get to this point?


Also ignore any info from thugnar he’s a neighborhood troll who’s never grown mushrooms before.

Edited by Screwup (01/18/23 06:10 AM)

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Screwup]
    #28145463 - 01/18/23 06:14 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Here op: Bod's Unmodified Monotub TEK

Read that thread and the other three listed at the top of that thread aswell. This should answer alot of your questions.

Also for me it looks way to dry. As far as it looks to me you just broke up grain spawn and threw it in the tub am I correct? You didn't actually mix it up with the soil?

A better description on what you actually did and how you proceeded would be much recommended.

And check the Surface condition link in my signature ;-)


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Edited by Shrimps (01/18/23 06:16 AM)

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OfflineJrsyHomegrown
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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Screwup]
    #28145465 - 01/18/23 06:18 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Fully colonized rye bag, then once ready mixed substrate and rye together. I did do a poor job on breaking up the clumps better. I was going to do it after the fact, but didn’t want to open the tub and risk contamination before introducing fruiting.  Substrate isn’t dry, plenty of moisture in there or at least I think.

Should I mist the substrate?

And I will take better pictures when I get home.

Edited by JrsyHomegrown (01/18/23 06:33 AM)

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145477 - 01/18/23 06:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Please take out the vendor names and read the forum rules ;-)

After the grain spawn is fully colonized and the substrate (I assume it is coco coir) with the Buket Tek "pasteurized", you can mix them in the monotub without problems. We all do the same thing here. Contamination shouldnt be a big risk at that point since coco coir doesn't offer much nutritions for contams to feed on and the grain is fully colonized which protects the grain to a certain point from contams as well.

I would recommend you mix and break up the substrate really good, level it out and probaby mist a bit to get it a bit moist again. Then just try to keep the surface condition (link in my signature) good and you should hopefully get some pins over time.

If you're afraid you could contam it, put on gloves and whipe your hads with iso (and let it dry completly). It's not neccecary, but may just give you a "safer feeling". Most people (including me) just wash their hands good (warm water and soap) and mix it up with our bear hands :laugh:


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145479 - 01/18/23 06:29 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

You propably should fruit it at this time. Theres propably lots of things going wrong there and the mycellium is fighting hard to survine. I would suggest in posting a better picture also. Also that Bod's write up that was posted above is good a good read for you.


To Screwup - Here is some of my old jar lids i just dug for inspection and cleaning. Will be making new filters and throwing out the rusted and otherwise bad ones. Going to do brf cakes and grain jars. I like to print mushrooms from cakes.

Edit: Oh right. And also one old LC jar wich i wont be using anymore. Ive used 8cl whiskey bottles for years now.



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Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.

Edited by Thugnar (01/18/23 06:32 AM)

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Thugnar] * 1
    #28145483 - 01/18/23 06:31 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

By the way OP.

Welcome to the comunity! And don't be afraid to ask question if any arise.

Mush love and good luck friend!

:leocheers:


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Shrimps]
    #28145485 - 01/18/23 06:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I  fan and mist everyday multiple times a day, but only the sides. After reading your link, I will start listing the substrate as well. I had conflicting info on spraying the substrate because it could damage the mycelium? Again I’m new so it’s a learning experience.

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145487 - 01/18/23 06:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Stop fanning. Only mist if there’s not millions of tiny water droplets on the surface AND NEVER listen to thugnar.

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown] * 1
    #28145489 - 01/18/23 06:36 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

No you should not mist directly on the substrate.

Best way of misting is to let the water droplets "fall" on to the surface by themself. So spraying a bit upwards against the opend lid often works for me, that way the mist droplets falls by gravity on the substrate. Otherwise it could lead to problems.

And listen to screwup, fanning is outdated and actually bad advice. You have holes with mp tape on your mono anyway. That passive fae should suffice. Otherwise just flip the lid that you get a small gap between lid and mono.


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Edited by Shrimps (01/18/23 06:37 AM)

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Shrimps]
    #28145492 - 01/18/23 06:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I removed names. So it’s safe to break up and level out even after FAE?

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145493 - 01/18/23 06:38 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Quote:

JrsyHomegrown said:
I  fan and mist everyday multiple times a day, but only the sides. After reading your link, I will start listing the substrate as well. I had conflicting info on spraying the substrate because it could damage the mycelium? Again I’m new so it’s a learning experience.




Heavy "spray" hits the mycellium like a railgun. Use mist and mist from a distance so the drops "fall" and dont "hit". Try to keep the surface moist without adding too much water while you mist. The droplets should evaporate in 15-30 minutes. Maby an hour depending on the amount of FAE.
Dont mist so that the water runs down by the walls.
I would also like to know if its okay to break the substrate at that point. Sounds risky.


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145496 - 01/18/23 06:39 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

In your case now, I would do that. But I stand to be corrected :laugh: I don't think it should be a problem, it actually should benefit the mycelium to get into a "better enviorment" (sorry my english is not the best^^ )


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Shrimps]
    #28145499 - 01/18/23 06:42 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Ok, so I’ll break up everything and mix better then? I just thought that it would damage the mycelium at this point since it’s colonized so much.

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28145501 - 01/18/23 06:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

that tub looks fucking crazy

what teks are you using? is that just a layer of straight spawn on top??

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145503 - 01/18/23 06:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

If it's not really badly contaminated, it should recover IMO...


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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145505 - 01/18/23 06:45 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'm with shrimps slight risk best call

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28145506 - 01/18/23 06:48 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

It isn’t, I mixed everything together. Not sure why it clumped  like that. Thought it was broken up better, but I’m a fucking noob so I guess I’m just a idiot. Going to do what’s recommended and break it up and level it out. Should I put more substrate on top after the fact?

Again worried that this far along it’ll kill the mycelium.

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Re: 1st time monotub [Re: JrsyHomegrown]
    #28145512 - 01/18/23 06:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

If it does you learned something and can moved onto proven teks like PF TEK and agar/grains. Even if it doesn’t still move on to those.

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