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Re: Initiation of force [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2814045 - 06/21/04 12:49 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

well, I guess its up to me and my colleagues to define 'ordinary prudence'. we're working on it, but I dont see a definitive end in sight. I think there are multiple kinds of intelligence, and people who exhibit giftedness in one area likely have defecits in another. Thus the 'average' intelligence is rarely applicable to the individual, because each individual has a unique cognitive makeup.

does everyone 'know you should' put a fire out when tearing down a campsite? Perhaps everyone should know, but that doesn't mean everyone does. So where do we draw the line between criminal negligence and honest mistakes due to incompetance?

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Re: Initiation of force [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2814058 - 06/21/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

My whole issue isn't so much with all these acts as much as the phrase being used to describe it. To me "Intitiation of Force" is something that is intended and calculated. If not then when is the force Initiated? And who is being forced?


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Re: Initiation of force [Re: Redo]
    #2814327 - 06/21/04 02:15 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Redo said:
When global warming takes its effect and hits hard during the soon to come Ice Age we will do something about pollution then, maybe increase the pollution to rewarm the Earth again.




Global WARMING equals an ICE age?

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Re: Initiation of force [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2814370 - 06/21/04 02:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It's in all the new text books, sheesh how OLD are you? :smirk:


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Re: Initiation of force [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2814401 - 06/21/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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germin8tionn8ion said:

Global WARMING equals an ICE age?




Yea, http://www.emagazine.com/november-december_2003/1103feat2.html , its been on the mind of many scientists for many years now.

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Re: Initiation of force [Re: Redo]
    #2814476 - 06/21/04 03:17 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

global warming is obviously a conspiracy perpetrated by Siberian land owners, in order to make their worthless real estate more desirable.  Just like all those people in Nevada who have been causing all those earthquakes in Cali, tryin to get beachfront property :smile:

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