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 skullfarmer1979
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 TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram 
#2814426 - 06/21/04 02:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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here it is again!some one moved this to another fourm where no one knew what i was talking about!has anyone ever tried this tek with good results.somebodys got to know about this!also ,read my other post below DPT+SUBSTRATE. it gets really intresting.imagine growing shrooms that don't contain 4-ho-dmt,but other chemicals.its ground breaking!
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Edited by skullfarmer1979 (06/24/04 06:19 AM)
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Rat
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 Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2815826 - 06/21/04 11:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Care to explain a bit?
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hawksapprentice
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: Rat]
#2816185 - 06/22/04 04:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have tried this this and do it from time to time, i hve never really done it consistently because i have not found a difference in potency between the cakes that i added it too and the ones i didnt add it. If you do try it do some control cakes, id be interested in what you get. Also ive tried it using rye berrie teks but when i start changing substrate it makes me wonder if its the substrate thats actually doing it or the added tryptamines.
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"I celebrate the Earth, my home, my mother, my grave, and as long as men are Man they must, if they would preserve the integrated being, do the same---[and preserve]--this rank casual hungry smelly sweaty lusting transitory body, my oozy pulpy liquid-bag-swollen body, bones, blood, hair glands, my bejeweled sex; I love and celebrate it all. never to let men forget that they are animals as much as gods---that is one thing I shall say."
Edward Abbey
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skullfarmer1979
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2816326 - 06/22/04 06:28 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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when preparing substrate,add 100mg tryptamine hcl to 45cc water and mix in substrate.this should raise potency up to 28 to 30mg per dry gram, instead of 6 to 8mg per dry gram.i have read this on this website"sorry no link"and a few books.i also know someone who just prepared substrate with 100mg DPT.dpt is not active orally just like dmt.hopefully,the shrooms will turn the dpt into 4-ho-dpt and this will make dpt active orally.tihkal said 4-ho-dpt has never been tested because it is so hard to make!i will keep the shroomery informed!
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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-
get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!
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t3knology
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2822343 - 06/23/04 09:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know about this, but if tyrptamine, another legal chemical, can be added to the mushroom substrate and increase the potency 4x, this is DEFENATLEY worthwhile.
I had to stop growing because i have no place to do it, But if someone ran tests on this, it could be a really big thing.
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 Meat_Log_Smurf
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2822908 - 06/24/04 01:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could someone PM me a reliable site where they have purchased research chems and not been burned by it. I have placed two orders with two different sites months ago and have received not a damn thing. I am really getting tired of wasting money.
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matts
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#2822910 - 06/24/04 01:15 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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skullfarmer1979
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#2823322 - 06/24/04 06:06 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey meatlogsmurf,i ordered something 2day express one time and it was 2 weeks before i got it.i was so pissed.when the ups guy delivered it to me he said"its about time i caught you at home, i've been coming by every day for about 2 weeks" i asked him why he didnt leave a note on the door and he said he did.we were having some bad storms the previous week and it got blown off i guess.they also needed an adults signature.
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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-
get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2825992 - 06/24/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there actually a record of someone doing this or is it all theoretical?
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hawksapprentice
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: distortion]
#2826824 - 06/25/04 04:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes i have done it, but like i posted earlier, it was with mixed results.
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"I celebrate the Earth, my home, my mother, my grave, and as long as men are Man they must, if they would preserve the integrated being, do the same---[and preserve]--this rank casual hungry smelly sweaty lusting transitory body, my oozy pulpy liquid-bag-swollen body, bones, blood, hair glands, my bejeweled sex; I love and celebrate it all. never to let men forget that they are animals as much as gods---that is one thing I shall say."
Edward Abbey
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skullfarmer1979
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: hawksapprentice]
#2827513 - 06/25/04 10:16 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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did you use 100mg trypt per cake ?and grew um the PFtek?
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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-
get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!
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TeknoJunkie
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 Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2842004 - 06/29/04 11:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just a thought.... edit
You can buy 4-HO-DPT there. You wouldn't have to worry about any reactionary processes. It'd just be there. $50 for a 100mg supply.
That's quite the expensive cake if one were to go through with that...
Does anyone know the chemical to water ratio because I can't figure it out real quick and you could spread out that 100mg's a hell of a lot more. Even if they were 10x more potent I'd be amazed.
Let me know if anyone tries this, I'm highly interested.   
Edited by Baby_Hitler (07/01/04 02:21 PM)
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skullfarmer1979
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: TeknoJunkie]
#2843518 - 06/30/04 12:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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you can buy 4-ho-dipt but no 4-ho-dpt.the tihkal said 4-ho-dpt is to hard to make so it did not give a dose range.dmt and dpt are not orally active, so converting them into 4-ho-dmt or 4-ho-dpt makes them orally active.a couple of books i've read said adding more tryptamine than 100mg would really stun growth of primordia,but 100mg per 45cc water is perfect.you can buy 500mg dpt for $50 and 10g tryptamine for $39 at edit as we speak, dpt is being converted into 4-ho-dpt.i will keep the shroomery informed!
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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-
get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!
Edited by Baby_Hitler (07/01/04 02:22 PM)
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MikeOLogical
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2844139 - 06/30/04 03:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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there was a big buzz about that a few months ago, but it fizzled... nobody got anywhere, or kept it secret if they got results...
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Teon
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Re: TRYPTAMINE + SUBSTRATE=30mg 4-HO-DMT per 1 dry gram [Re: skullfarmer1979]
#2844388 - 06/30/04 05:19 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is all very interesting, but it really makes me wonder.
Agurell and Nillson established tryptophan as the intial precursor in fungal biosynthesis, with one of the necessary organic reactions in the sequence being decarboxylation to tryptamine. (Agurell, [u]Bio Syntheis of Psilocybin[/u], ACTA Chemica Scandinavica 22, 1968. 1210 - 1218.) But the additional yields of 4-hydroxy-DMT being described here isn't really explained by the addition of 100 mg of tryptamine, unless only a very small amount of substrate was invovled, and a very small harvest taken. Should this not be the case, I must bring the mothod by which the psilocybin content of these mushrooms was obtained into question.
The above mentioned study reported that only 2.06% - 2.56% of the introduced tryptamine was incorporated into the psilocybin content of the fungal body. Incidentally, the most efficiently incorporated indoline found in their investigation was N-Methyltryptamine which, at 14.8%, was even better incorporated than Psilocin which peaked at 8.48%
If anyone is interested in a .pdf of the paper, and has a place for me to upload it to, PM me.
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Edited by Teon (07/01/04 03:57 PM)
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