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    #28140727 - 01/15/23 07:19 AM (1 year, 13 days ago)

What do you think about that? Could I just pay a fixed price up front and be a supporter for life?


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #28141535 - 01/15/23 04:30 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #28143362 - 01/16/23 05:40 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

We get this request from time to time, but I have some reservations just due to the evolving nature of supporter accounts. Obviously, there's no problem when we add new supporters-only features. But we also want the flexibility to sunset certain functionality, by de-listing it from the advertised features for supporter accounts and then removing it entirely once all active supporter terms have expired. We've done this occasionally, for example when it became too much of a burden to maintain our own e-mail infrastructure and we discontinued supporter e-mail accounts. For this reason, if we sold lifetime supporter accounts, it would have to be with the caveat that features and functionality could change at any time. And that feels kind of shady to me. But if people are okay with it, we could certainly consider the possibility of offering these.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #28143367 - 01/16/23 05:43 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

The arcade got removed. There is nothing you can change that would affect me more than that. I'm down for whatever. I just want the big avatar and red name text, and supporter uploads.

What were you thinking? Like $350?


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 5
    #28144339 - 01/17/23 11:52 AM (1 year, 11 days ago)

But I only removed the arcade because I thought you deserved to be the final and ultimate Blackjack champion! :smirk:

We never discussed pricing proposals for lifetime supporter accounts, but $350 is probably in the ballpark. If supporter uploads are one of the main attractions to you though, you should know that I do aspire to offer free unlimited uploads for everyone and that may happen when we next upgrade our file hosting server.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan]
    #28145448 - 01/18/23 05:43 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

So can we add that option to the store? When is the next admin meeting you could get this going on?


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan]
    #28146068 - 01/18/23 02:52 PM (1 year, 10 days ago)

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We get this request from time to time, but I have some reservations just due to the evolving nature of supporter accounts. Obviously, there's no problem when we add new supporters-only features. But we also want the flexibility to sunset certain functionality, by de-listing it from the advertised features for supporter accounts and then removing it entirely once all active supporter terms have expired. We've done this occasionally, for example when it became too much of a burden to maintain our own e-mail infrastructure and we discontinued supporter e-mail accounts. For this reason, if we sold lifetime supporter accounts, it would have to be with the caveat that features and functionality could change at any time. And that feels kind of shady to me. But if people are okay with it, we could certainly consider the possibility of offering these.





We're all adults, if we add a clause to the lifetime that makes clear functions may be lost or added in the best interest of the site, and that therefore it is a bit of a gamble to opt into a lifetime supporter account, i think that given the sound judgement evidenced so far, its a gamble our most loyal supporters are willing to opt into. If there will be higher price buy in activities we can put them in a class of their own.

I would also like the ability to buy another member a supporter account with all the time plans. Fairly frequently i get requests to cooperate in a member doing a giveaway of accounts.

We're a generous lot, not just at the equator but also right at home!


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Asante] * 1
    #28146482 - 01/18/23 07:17 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

I'd be in for a lifetime one.
I get at least $350 of enjoyment from the shroomery dot org. :heart:


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Asante] * 1
    #28146497 - 01/18/23 07:31 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

Yeah, gifting supporter accounts is definitely a frequent request. It's technically possible now, since the activation link can be redeemed by anyone, so you just have to share it with the person you're gifting to. That's what I've been telling people who ask, but it would be nice to wrap it up in a proper UI. Certainly something I can work on.

It really is inspiring to see this interest in a lifetime supporter option. I had family in town for a few days which kept me away from the site, but I promise we'll discuss this and I will keep you posted. I'm amused at the presumption that we have anything resembling regular admin meetings, though. :lol:


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #28146771 - 01/18/23 10:47 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

One year of a supporter account is $45, so if we say that a "lifetime" subscription is 30 years, that would be $1350. Then again, a large portion of our membership is in their 20s, so lifetime for them might be closer to 40+ years, which would be $1800 and up, on paper anyway.

That leads to maybe an interesting idea: maybe you could break it down by year. Currently, you can buy 6 months and 1 year, maybe you could add 5 years, 10 years, 30 years etc.

As much as I might get a little flack for saying so, I would suggest maybe not lowering the price too much for longer subscriptions, personally I'm more than happy to support you guys and keep you going.

Anyway, these are just random ideas I wanted to throw out there.

Maybe an auto-renewal option too?


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan]
    #28146907 - 01/19/23 02:37 AM (1 year, 9 days ago)

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I'm amused at the presumption that we have anything resembling regular admin meetings, though. :lol:





Imagine.




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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: nooneman]
    #28146996 - 01/19/23 05:46 AM (1 year, 9 days ago)

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One year of a supporter account is $45, so if we say that a "lifetime" subscription is 30 years, that would be $1350. Then again, a large portion of our membership is in their 20s, so lifetime for them might be closer to 40+ years, which would be $1800 and up, on paper anyway.

That leads to maybe an interesting idea: maybe you could break it down by year. Currently, you can buy 6 months and 1 year, maybe you could add 5 years, 10 years, 30 years etc.

As much as I might get a little flack for saying so, I would suggest maybe not lowering the price too much for longer subscriptions, personally I'm more than happy to support you guys and keep you going.

Anyway, these are just random ideas I wanted to throw out there.

Maybe an auto-renewal option too?





It's the time value of money though. Granted that the price for supporter accounts has never increased, but on a Net present value calculation at 4%, $45 a year for 8 years is about $350. I'm sure Ythan could show the percentage of accounts that are older than 8 years, and I doubt it's more than a couple of percent of the total.


30 years in a net present value calculator is abut $800. That seems excessive to me.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #28147859 - 01/19/23 05:15 PM (1 year, 8 days ago)

It would be nice if lifetime supporters got an extra badge. Something shroomy, you know?

Send me a link so I can be the first one once it's set up.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 3
    #28152472 - 01/22/23 04:25 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

I promised updates: none of the admins had objections and this will go live once my slow ass has a chance to implement it. I've got some commitments coming up but I'll do my best. Price point will be $350 as you suggested and I'll try to design some kind of sexy badge. Thank you for giving us the inspiration to go forward with this! :thumbup:


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan]
    #28154460 - 01/23/23 07:20 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

:ythan:

Love you bud. And this place.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ythan]
    #28156271 - 01/24/23 09:18 PM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Seems like a helluva deal. I thought the Tree Fiddy was like a meme or something. :laugh2:


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: mycosis]
    #28161489 - 01/28/23 02:55 PM (1 year, 44 minutes ago)

It's been two weeks, man. I'm not buying a supporter account until I can get the Lifetime option.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #28165007 - 01/30/23 08:39 PM (11 months, 21 days ago)

Ythan I love this idea. I will gladly buy a lifetime supporter account!


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: Big_Dub]
    #28170375 - 02/03/23 06:55 AM (11 months, 18 days ago)

Also on the other end of the spectrum. Whats up with the one month supporter accounts? I would love to be able to give them away as prizes for contest.


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Re: Lifetime supporter account [Re: bw86]
    #28196650 - 02/20/23 07:50 PM (11 months, 19 hours ago)

bump.


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