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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28142104 - 01/15/23 10:54 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

I never claimed RT publishes articles critical of the Russian government.  My claim was that they are more honest about what they print than mainstream media.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28142299 - 01/16/23 05:26 AM (1 year, 11 days ago)

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As Scott Ritter said, it's hard to get news articles on RT because they are very strict about ensuring everything is accurate.  But it's even harder to get news on Western mainstream media because they tend not to print stories that go against the government narrative.





Your claim was "its even harder to get news on  Western mainstream media because they tend not to print stories that go against the government narrative"

I provided you with two examples of Western Media (one from NPR) and a historical example that refute this. Do you still claim Western Media sources dont run stories counter to the government narrative?

Why do you think RT does not run stories against the official Russian government narrative? My claim is its to do with RT being funded and contrilled by the Russain government. Could you provide me with examples where RT has exposed a lie or a clusterfuck within the Russian government, similar to the scale of the Pentagon papers?


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28142355 - 01/16/23 06:30 AM (1 year, 11 days ago)

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My claim was that they are more honest about what they print than mainstream media.




claim

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noun: claim; plural noun: claims

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    an assertion of the truth of something, typically one that is disputed or in doubt.


got that right.

this subforum is brutal with the inability of ONE person to stay on topic within threads.

how  do yall tolerate this shit? its beyond me.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28142957 - 01/16/23 02:18 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

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As Scott Ritter said, it's hard to get news articles on RT because they are very strict about ensuring everything is accurate.  But it's even harder to get news on Western mainstream media because they tend not to print stories that go against the government narrative.





Your claim was "its even harder to get news on  Western mainstream media because they tend not to print stories that go against the government narrative"

I provided you with two examples of Western Media (one from NPR) and a historical example that refute this. Do you still claim Western Media sources dont run stories counter to the government narrative?



I didn't claim they don't, I claimed they tend not to.  This is clear if you've been following what alternative media sources are willing to cover vs what mainstream media is willing to cover.

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Could you provide me with examples where RT has exposed a lie or a clusterfuck within the Russian government, similar to the scale of the Pentagon papers?



As I just said in my last post, "I never claimed RT publishes articles critical of the Russian government."


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28143099 - 01/16/23 03:20 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

You see how strange that dodge is?.

You claim Western Media "tend" not to publish stories against a government narrative, despite my evidence that a government funded entity(in part), NPR, does....but you espouse RT as a solid news organization,  even though they don't criticize the Russian narrative. You can't have it both ways.


We both know, and the forum knows why the Russsia Times does not criticize Russia, or do you have a unique idea why?


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
    #28143121 - 01/16/23 03:29 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

Fal just loves newspeak and eastern propaganda


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28143139 - 01/16/23 03:38 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

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You see how strange that dodge is?.

You claim Western Media "tend" not to publish stories against a government narrative, despite my evidence that a government funded entity(in part), NPR, does....but you espouse RT as a solid news organization,  even though they don't criticize the Russian narrative. You can't have it both ways.


We both know, and the forum knows why the Russsia Times does not criticize Russia, or do you have a unique idea why?



I don't understand what you're getting at.  I never claimed RT criticizes Russia.  What 'dodge' are you referring to?

Western media, such as the NY Times, are constantly making errors, while espousing the Western establishment narrative.  RT on the other hand, makes very few errors while espousing the Russian narrative.  THAT'S the big difference.

Sure, once in a blue moon the establishment media criticizes the government, but that's probably because they want to be first to report on a story that will likely break anyway.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #28143142 - 01/16/23 03:40 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

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Fal just loves newspeak and eastern propaganda



No, I love stories based on available facts, not make believe.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28143146 - 01/16/23 03:42 PM (1 year, 11 days ago)

Your confused....you just stated:

As I just said in my last post, "I never claimed RT publishes articles critical of the Russian government."


.....but you know that.


So you love news organizations that don't challenge the government. Got it.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28143907 - 01/17/23 03:08 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

I like news organizations that tell the truth more than those that tell fake news, like the mainstream media often does.  :shrug:


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28143942 - 01/17/23 04:29 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

No, you like news organizations that never criticize their own government (RT) and look down on those other news organizations that "tend" (Western Media) not to.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28144002 - 01/17/23 06:10 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

Interestingly, the Twitter thread you started, you cited the Intercept as a main source, which is a Western Media, founded by an eBay billionaire.

I read the Intercept, as well....but the main guy had to resign for not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28145095 - 01/17/23 08:46 PM (1 year, 10 days ago)

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I read the Intercept, as well....but the main guy had to resign for not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?



What main guy?


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28145106 - 01/17/23 08:55 PM (1 year, 10 days ago)

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No, you like news organizations that never criticize their own government (RT) and look down on those other news organizations that "tend" (Western Media) not to.




What’s there to be critical of? Russia’s government is perfect and there is zero corruption.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: koods]
    #28145119 - 01/17/23 09:04 PM (1 year, 10 days ago)

:whateveryousayfreak:


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28145497 - 01/18/23 06:40 AM (1 year, 9 days ago)

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I read the Intercept, as well....but the main guy had to resign for not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?



What main guy?




https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-intercept/

In 2020, Greenwald resigned from the publication citing the outlet’s refusal to run an article critical of Democratic Presidential nominee Joe Biden.[1]


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
    #28145733 - 01/18/23 10:29 AM (1 year, 9 days ago)

So your statement was incorrect.

Glenn Greenwald didn't have to resign, he chose to resign because the Intercept refused to publish negative information about Biden.  The Intercept did exactly what you're critisizing RT.com for doing.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28145848 - 01/18/23 12:19 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

Lol

I mistyped.....my error; change

"....but the main guy had to resign for not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?"

To:

...but the main guy chose to resign for the Intercept not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?


None of which changes what I have presented to you, nor the hypocrisy of your position on Western vs Russian media. ......or does it? You seem to critique  Western media for tending not to post things against the government narrative, now you used a Western media source that has a documented past of towing the government talking points (no negative stories about Biden)for your Twitter thread....per my last post, do you see this contradiction?


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28145943 - 01/18/23 01:33 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

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Lol

I mistyped.....my error; change

"....but the main guy had to resign for not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?"

To:

...but the main guy chose to resign for the Intercept not posting one negative story about Biden. See the contradiction?



I don't.  That seems like the same thing as Abby Martin leaving RT.

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None of which changes what I have presented to you, nor the hypocrisy of your position on Western vs Russian media. ......or does it? You seem to critique  Western media for tending not to post things against the government narrative, now you used a Western media source that has a documented past of towing the government talking points (no negative stories about Biden)for your Twitter thread....per my last post, do you see this contradiction?



The difference is that the Western media will intentionally lie and put out fake news to push their views, while RT tries not to do that.


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Re: REBUBLICANS/WEALTHY WANT DOMINATION AND CONTROL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28145946 - 01/18/23 01:34 PM (1 year, 9 days ago)

It’s cute you believe that:popcorn:


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