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Thugnar
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Assuming that the condensation is caused by temperature then maby you could find some place cooler for incubation? What is your room temp surrounding the jars? If i remember right then 18-20°c room temp compensates enough the heat generation of mycellium. I usually have close to 18.
Edit: oops there its is. Yeah it's propably because youre using an incubator. Ditch that shit and let colonize in a clean space with fresh air and no strong currents.
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MikeHarold
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Re: First grow prep [Re: Thugnar]
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Setup is in a closet with no air venting. Incubator was because the ambient temps in the closet this time of year are between 64-66 so a bit on the cool side. Can/maybe will pull them out of the incubator now that they are rolling and see?
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Forgot I had micropore tape on the lids so pulled that off and cracked the lid more on the box to help with air exchange. About all I can do I think?
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Crackatoa
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It's normal
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That’s about the same level as what I’m seeing in mine…nice. I was expecting some, just wasn’t sure how much to expect. Rookie being worried over here! Thanks!
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I get it, been there before.
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Checking in on things today and I’m seeing these brown spots. I’m thinking it’s just staining or something of that nature and not bacteria, but I’m not sure. I see it in pretty much all my jars and it’s where the cake has shrunk away from the sides. Otherwise things are going well and lots of great growth and colonization happening. https:// https://
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Excess Taters
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9/10 that's verm from you moving the jar as the cake colonizes and shrinks. It'll fall down from the dry verm barrier if you move it too forcefully or to the side/upside down. Unfortunately, that can bring down contaminants from the top that we're being blocked by that barrier initially.
It may have brought down some contaminants making the yellow type spots, but that's just a guess.
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The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs. Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
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That was my thought. When I do handle them I try to keep them vertical as possible for that very reason. I’ll have to refrain from fucking around with them from here on.
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Got some in vitro pinning going on now! Happening in 5 of the 10 jars going. We’re on day 26 and almost colonized completely down the sides but still not on the bottom yet, I’d say around 85% colonization at this point. Pretty much nothing to do about it right? Just let it ride and wait correct? https://
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I suspect that it's bacterial, which is why it pinned early. Not that PF cakes care much about bacteria.
Whether I'm wrong or right, just give it time and once it's fully colonized you're obviously about to get some mushers!
-------------------- If you've never grown mushrooms before, here's how you start. First, follow the Updated PF Tek, put 4 holes in jar lids not 1, and use a water tub!
The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs. Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
Growing APE or PE? P9 pseudo casing tek
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Checked in today and 9of the 10 jars have pins, some full blown shrooms pushing up through the verm layer!? Getting fuzz around some of the shrooms. My uneducated guess is one of two things. A: it’s similar to fruiting and lack of fae causing “fuzzy feet” Or B: the mycelium breaking down the shrooms and reclaiming them if you will.
Also noticing some lumps or blobs as well, but they’re the same white as the rest of the mycelium so not thinking they’re contam.
Thoughts? Am I in for issues moving forward or am I still on a path to having at least a decent chance of a successful outcome? https://

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I might be able to be convinced that spawning them now is optimal, but I've never had a situation like this and I'm completely unfamiliar with it. So don't over value my opinion.
My opinion is it's bacterial, crumble off the uncolonized parts and set the colonized bits in a water tub. Get what mushrooms you can. But def wait for someone else's opinion, I'm really just guessing that because they are spawning early, they're being chased out by bacteria, and this is their shot to fruit before it conquers them. But seriously, wait for an experienced opinion.
-------------------- If you've never grown mushrooms before, here's how you start. First, follow the Updated PF Tek, put 4 holes in jar lids not 1, and use a water tub!
The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs. Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
Growing APE or PE? P9 pseudo casing tek
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I'd fruit 9 out of 10. Pick off the ones there. You going to bulk or keeping as cakes?
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Was planning to spawn to bulk. Could be convinced to fruit the cakes though if it seems a better/safer route at this point.
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Spawning to bulk with likely bacterial spawn is a risky endeavor. I'd fruit as a cake. If you think it isn't bacterial, then spawn to bulk, but the reason we'd spawn before complete colonization ever, is because of bacteria.
-------------------- If you've never grown mushrooms before, here's how you start. First, follow the Updated PF Tek, put 4 holes in jar lids not 1, and use a water tub!
The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs. Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
Growing APE or PE? P9 pseudo casing tek
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Quote:
Excess Taters said: Spawning to bulk with likely bacterial spawn is a risky endeavor. I'd fruit as a cake. If you think it isn't bacterial, then spawn to bulk, but the reason we'd spawn before complete colonization ever, is because of bacteria.
Got it. Wasn't planning to fruit the cakes so not totally up on the tek. In this case since we aren't fully colonized would I pull the cakes, remove all the uncolinized BRF then dunk and roll as per the rest of the tek? Looks like I have some reading to do to figure out the best route and setup at this particular point now. Thanks.
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Yes, that's correct. Wipe all uncolonized stuff off, rinse, dunk, put in water tub. Then mushrooms, GG.
-------------------- If you've never grown mushrooms before, here's how you start. First, follow the Updated PF Tek, put 4 holes in jar lids not 1, and use a water tub!
The next move is Shoebox Tek. After that you move onto grains, agar, monotubs. Agar is easy, just do it.
Other useful links - Picture guide for how things should look and proper surface conditions guide
Growing APE or PE? P9 pseudo casing tek
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So I birthed the cakes and and put them in a couple water tubs on 2-1. Holding the closet at a consistent 72. Misted lightly a couple days after birthing and gave a light mist today which these pics were taken just after misting. Can see lots of other pins starting to for as well. So this first grow didn’t go perfect, but looks like we should get a decent harvest given. Have some golden teacher in the wings and will be starting that run in a bit.
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Quote:
MikeHarold said: So I birthed the cakes and and put them in a couple water tubs on 2-1. Holding the closet at a consistent 72. Misted lightly a couple days after birthing and gave a light mist today which these pics were taken just after misting. Can see lots of other pins starting to for as well. So this first grow didn’t go perfect, but looks like we should get a decent harvest given. Have some golden teacher in the wings and will be starting that run in a bit.
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Isn't it a magical feeling when they start to pin?
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