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Kronicz
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Bubbles in my mushroom honey?
#23829894 - 11/13/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi guys
I have just recently made some mushroom honey that is only a few hours old but i have noticed its already beginning to form small air bubbles. I have searched for information but havnt found alot ive seen other cases where bubbles began to form also and one person stated the bubbles did not effect the honey. However someone else seemed to think the bubbles were a sign of the honey beginning to ferment. So my question is are these bubbles normal and does it mean anything bad for my batch of honey?
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HamHead
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Kronicz]
#23830087 - 11/13/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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west coast hunt
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: HamHead]
#23830611 - 11/13/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But that sure does look tasty!
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mushiefeet
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I have no clue on mushie honey so dont take my advice just thinking. But from when (which i know its totally different) have made Oil or anything similar during the heating process I was told just use a needle and see if the swelling goes down, sorta like a pizza. Again Never done Mush honey just cooking and oil for bud.. Might be the same culinary??
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Kronicz
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: mushiefeet]
#23831186 - 11/14/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply but to be honest im not quite sure what you meant by this. When making the mushroom honey i didnt have to heat my honey at all i just mixed ground mushrooms and honey together. Im not sure if these bubbles are just from trapped air or the beggining of the fermentaion process if anyone expeirenced could shed some light would be much appreciated. Thanks
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seekingguidance
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Kronicz]
#28114253 - 12/27/22 04:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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why do they never shed the light?
did everyone get arrested after he posted that?
and then they take over your accounts and keep trying to arrest us and rob us
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it's already gone we already ate it all why IDK
Edited by seekingguidance (12/27/22 04:51 PM)
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Northerner
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He was just too lazy/wasted to come back and say the bubbles came out after a while. Trippers spinning out that dried mushrooms could be fermenting in honey after a few hours is not exactly the start of an informative thread. 
You need to apply critical thinking to a lot of the things that get posted here.
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Northerner]
#28115894 - 12/29/22 01:19 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Yes, it could definitely be fermenting!
Here is the reasoning.
First, if it has been less than an hour or maybe two, then it's probably just air that is settling out, especially if you used a food processor or something that whipped it up with allot of air.
But, and this is a big BUT, if it's had enough time to start fermentation, then that's what it is, and it probably will ferment sooner or later regardless.
That's assuming that you used fresh mushrooms, as apposed to dry.
The reason I am so sure about it, is that honey is used to make tij.
I've made tij many times.
How it works, is that, the reason why honey is made by bees is that once the water is evaporated out of the nectar, and the sugar is concentrated, the sugar is so strong, that no bacteria can grow in it.
Sugar is a natural preservative because it kills all bacteria (and yeast) once it's concentrated.
Nothing can survive in honey, because of the high sugar content. It will last forever, without refrigeration.
But the first alcoholic beverage was discovered by people when honey was mixed with water.
What are most of the fresh mushrooms made of?
Water!
So, the way you make tij, is just by mixing some water into the honey, and leaving it open to the air for a day, then putting a balloon (or condom) over the top, with just a hole poked in it with a needle.
Yeast floats freely in the air, and different strands of yeast actually live in different places from one area to the next.
That's why certain wines are prized because of particular strains that live in certain parts of the world, but they are all still yeast.
Even your neighbor might have a different stain in her house than yours.
Another thing honey (and all sugar does), is draw moisture out of any fresh fruit or vegetable that you put in it.
So, the mushrooms are mostly water, and you have packed that jar full of them, and the honey is drawing the water out of them, and the yeast is coming out of the air, and it's not dying because the sugar is diluted with the water and is not strong enough to kill it anymore, and the yeast is eating the sugar and turning it into the first wine that humans ever made, called tij.
Fun fact: if you only let it ferment for a day or so, until it gets all bubbly, then the alcohol content is still very low, and as long as you were clean and didn't let other bacteria get in it from dirty hands or a dirty jar or something like that, then you can give it to kids as a bubbly treat that tastes like mountain dew.
My kids love it.
Unfortunately, you do have to wait till the alcohol content gets strong enough to kill bacteria before you drink homemade wine or older tij, because after a couple days the bacteria will grow, along with the yeast, and can make you sick just like anything that you leave out for a couple days, so you have to be careful not to drink it after the first day or two, and always be sanitary so you don't get salmonella or E. Coli.
You can probably keep it cold and be fine for a couple weeks, but it's not going to stay good out on the counter like it would if you used dry mushrooms or much more honey so it's not diluted.
I promise you that if it has enough water in it, then it will start to turn into vinegar, or wine, but ether way, the fermenting will produce gases that may or may not cause oxidation and subsequent lose of all potency.
Wine is made by anaerobic fermentation, so I think it's carbonation and might not affect the molecule like oxygen would, but vinegar definitely will.
Maybe put a balloon with a hole poked in it over it and see if it turns into tij that will get you high.
IDK.
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Sub-Easy]
#28115949 - 12/29/22 03:12 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Hey Sub… that was an interesting read and all, but this post is over six years old, and that user was last seen over one year ago.
Kinda cool to know about the tij, though somehow I don’t think I’d be game to drink it haha
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Northerner
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Sub-Easy]
#28115955 - 12/29/22 03:33 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
Sub-Easy said: Yes, it could definitely be fermenting! ....
Fermentation takes about 12 hours to start, the mushrooms were crunchy dry anyway. Definitely not fermenting.
Cool novel tho.
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Re: Bubbles in my mushroom honey? [Re: Northerner]
#28116124 - 12/29/22 09:06 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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I like to get wordy, even if I'm not saying much.
It could be seen as a little abusive, but I look at it as a counter measure to all the short ass comments that I hate so much.
Got to fill the page with something, and I figure if half the people aren't saying anything, then I'll just make up for it with a bunch of words.
It's really about the audience you are targeting.
Some people might get introduced to new ideas, and others that already know will just be wasting time reading, but you never know who is who.
It's a hard choice between writing a children's book and writing a scholarly essay.
But you got to say something for crying out loud.
I hope he is okay.
The answer does seem obvious.
Don't mix a bunch of shit up in a jar and eat it if you don't know what you are doing!
Glad to hear he used dried mushrooms.
The alternative would not be good.
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