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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28115118 - 12/28/22 01:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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That and social media narcissism.

Who are the men paying for this shit?

If you're one of them, you're a pathetic POS and need to get a grip.




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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28115417 - 12/28/22 05:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

"That and social media narcissism.

Who are the men paying for this shit?

If you're one of them, you're a pathetic POS and need to get a grip."


Obviously they have a grip and are doing just fine without anyone's judgement.
Why do you care?


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: loladoreen]
    #28116086 - 12/29/22 08:15 AM (1 year, 30 days ago)

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loladoreen said:
Good post.
I agree. Somethings I didn't like in your post but.. they are true. There is a census that the pussy holds power.. but that is an individual thing. I have never acted like that or had a man I was in a relationship act like that. Your right it would cause major issues in any relationships as it does in society.
But it is not everyone or even the majority. Even simp mentality...
I think sex work should be legal. And we need to supply them with health insurance and contraceptives. Keep our world healthy.
I try hard to not be judgemental but it really boils down to this puritan mindset and judging others.
My friend... you would never know. But why would you stereotype that anyhow?





It's like anything right, it's just a generality or general rule, plenty of folks live outside of this mentality. Ofc.
I'd argue it's edging ever closer to a majority though, when I look around.
Even miserable married fellows with this same mentality, masked and covered, by a relationship that exists to only cover the most basic checkboxes in life. Sad really.

Fortunately I think you mention3d in some thread you are a boomer?? 
So your age has helped you avoid this pseudo systemic social-sexual frailty that has become the burden of the more recent generations especially.
Some of this subject matter is, in fact, quite crude and I apologize.
I just know that without tickling the truth there can't be any reasonable discussion on any subject matter.
The truth being declining mental health of Americans for a variety of reasons, with some real fucked sociological outcomes on the account of that, with drug use, emotional dissatisfaction, and an unhealthy relationship with sex being just a few of the issues seeming to arise.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: ashfiken] * 1
    #28116136 - 12/29/22 09:20 AM (1 year, 30 days ago)

I am not a boomer. My parents are boomers LOL
I am Gen X
Don't do stereotypes..when you stereotype you feed the stereotypes and keep people in boxes.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: loladoreen]
    #28116562 - 12/29/22 05:27 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

Oh not trying to categorize you or anything I just thought I saw a post with your age that put you in that generation.
Hoping you may have been more aloof than many from the sex rhetoric that the young folks deal with now.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan] * 1
    #28117135 - 12/30/22 06:07 AM (1 year, 29 days ago)

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Roflspammer said:
Selling porn and murdering are not equivalent. Murder is a definite harm. Porn is not clearly causative of loneliness. I would argue that loneliness is coming more from the individual than from external society. My evidence is that people can live in solitude for years without human contact and not feel lonely. You can feel lonely even when you're surrounded by a crowd of people in a massive city. Loneliness does not have to do with whether or not someone somewhere else who you don't know is selling porn.




I never said they were equivalent.

Much of what you're saying here is objectively false.

You only need to look up the effects of solitary confinement on the psyche of a person to realise that this is all false. There is a lot of data on this, numerous studies.

I agree that people can also be lonely whilst surrounded by people.
I'd say this is due to a lack of meaningful, fulfilling relationships, and technology, social media etc, is contributing to the problem.
Things like onlyfans, and the commodification of sex are all a part of this issue.

The damage from something like murder is much more easily quantifiable, as there is an immediate, measurable effect.
What we're discussing here is social issues, with far more factors at play.




Just like to point out that a lot of the torture of solitary confinement comes from lack of all stimulus, not from lack of socialization. Solitary confinement isn't just not talking to people. It's also not seeing anything new, eating the same flavorless food every day, and sitting in the same featureless cell all day.

The extreme version is called white room torture, where not only is everything painted a flat white, but meals arrive at irregular intervals, lights switch on an off at irregular intervals, etc. To completely break the circadian rhythms. Not only do you remove all external stimuli, but you also directly destroy internal stimuli.

As for OP topic: correlation does not equal causation. Pretty sure that OF is a symptom of the same problem that has created a generation of disaffected individuals who see no point. Most young people I talk to routinely joke about suicide, personally know a suicide victim or two, and have grown up in a society where a Columbine-level shooting is just another day. (US perspective). There is no hope for the future. I've had people laugh at me for investing, because they fully expect the world to end in the next 20-30 years.

There is a reason that YOLO became a thing a while back. At first, it was kind of a cheeky way to explain away dumb shit, but now it seems to be the norm. It's a giant, societal, "let us live today, for tomorrow we die". Like every night before the epic battle scene in movies where everyone is getting drunk as shit, since the main characters aren't supposed to be aware of plot armor.

So I don't really see a point categorizing OF/sex work as something that is good or bad. It is. You don't have to participate, I don't, but you won't be able to stop it unless you fix the other problems. As a matter of fact, it's not really a problem that requires fixing. It's a side effect of problems that will require fixing, if society is to continue. Just like redpill bullshit.

None of this appears out of nowhere. Someone realized that there was a need in the market, and they exploited that need. The need is the same everywhere: meaning, connection, feeling like one has control over their life and an impact in the world. Shit that is now so heavily regulated and monetized that it is becoming prohibitively expensive. Which makes sense. It's basic capitalism. Corner the market, raise the price. That is what you do. That is how it works. The fact that a growing portion of the population can no longer afford the price is irrelevant.

Well, it is socially relevant, but it is irrelevant to the people that own society. And a second group of people have popped up exploiting those who can no longer afford the services of the first group of people. Redpill pushers, OF models, etc.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28117154 - 12/30/22 06:44 AM (1 year, 29 days ago)

Another thought: one of those weird trends that you do not expect, is that luxury sales go up during recessions.

Similarly, poor people are constantly shat on for having the latest iPhone/TV/whatever.

What does this tell you?

People that find themselves in unstable situations try to find comfort wherever they can. When you're about to lose your job, livelihood, and maybe even identity (since jobs are often tied to identity), you buy yourself something a little fancy to take the edge off.

When you know that you are fucked, and will continue to be fucked, well, it better to be fucked and have a new TV. That money is gonna disappear anyway. Especially since being poor is super expensive. The price of a TV won't pay off your debts. It takes a lot of planning and financial knowledge to pay off significant debt, the kind of knowledge that is clearly lacking if you got into debt to begin with. And yeah, maybe a lot of it is basic common sense, but that's probably because you've learned not only the relevant knowledge, but also HOW TO ACQUIRE that knowledge. Back when I did social work, 90% of the job was literally explaining to people what paperwork they needed to fill out and how to fill it out. Where to sign, what to initial, that type of thing.

It's not directly relevant, but it is the same live today for tomorrow we die mindset.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Kryptos] * 3
    #28117344 - 12/30/22 10:50 AM (1 year, 29 days ago)

I’ve been reading this thread with interest.

I’ve got 24 years as a provider in the realm of adult services.
I’ve watched as things have morphed over time.

I can say that not all “sex work” is equal. The “industry” as it’s often referred to, or “sex trade” is not a singular thing which can be easily described. There is a spectrum of circumstances, motives, vocations, cultures within cultures, different markets different economies, etc.

The people who sell as well as the people who buy what’s being sold are all over the spectrum as far as circumstances and motives.

There are predators and bad actors amongst both buyers and sellers.

Some provide because they feel they have no other options (could be true), some provide because they actually want to do the work. Within all this there are various motives. I can only speak for myself regarding my motives. I can make observations.

There is a healthy parameter for erotic services. I don’t believe this parameter exists online or with the vast majority of pornography as unpopular as that opinion might be with many of my peers. The “findoms” and some amongst the “sugar babies” which appeared with the rise in popularity of social media, aren’t it either.

Some of these accounts exist for the sole purpose of con artistry taking advantage of people (namely men). Some of them are men posing as women btw. They even justify it by stating their targets “asked for it” “consented to it”. Ironic if you think about it. If men stated such a thing they’d be crucified.

“Sex work” I prefer “erotic services” consists of all sorts of vocations. Some are strictly online with nothing ever being face to face. Some of the work is legal, some of the work is criminalized. Some of it involves in person sex, some is strictly performance, some of it is only media based, phone based, online only, etc.

There is a population of people providing various erotic services (including prostitution) because of life circumstances (addiction, poverty, homelessness, criminal record that blocks employment). Many amongst those who feel it’s the best option they have to earn any living, often end up resenting their clients. They’d be doing something else if they could, they wouldn’t do the work they’re doing were it not for circumstances. This ends up unhealthy for both providers and buyers, unhealthy for society.

This population is vastly larger than the number of people actually being forced against their will by another person. when force/fraud/coercion is involved, this is sex trafficking.

I’ve observed people who resent providing (even though they did it of their own volition) end up claiming they were trafficked. No one actually trafficked them, but they equate their negative experience with being forced. It was circumstance which forced them. With deeper scrutiny we might find that amongst these people, some aren’t acknowledging their own responsibility in the situation. This isn’t trafficking as much as a variety of anti sex work NGO’s want it to be and even claim as much. These NGO’s have spent billions over the last two decades trying to convince the public that all erotic services is trafficking.

People old enough can remember when law enforcement engaged in “prostitution stings” announced on the news outlets. Today, all prostitution stings are called trafficking investigations. Most of the investigations touted as such are actually prostitution stings involving adults seeking adults. Mostly consensual workers. The public wrongly believes something is being done about trafficking. Law enforcement can’t generate the same amount in revenue going after traffickers as compared to arresting consenting adults engaging in prostitution. Folks should go look at the DOJ crime data and do the math. Including the amount of funding given to law enforcement up against how many trafficking cases and prostitution arrests.

Sex is a core human issue. It is extremely important. Humans are still wrestling with it. The species evolves but it’s not always good. Humans tend to go to extremes. The sex part of the human puzzle is pretty messed up on a cultural level.

The sex trades are a mirror of the culture. All of a culture’s secrets bad (and some are good) are carried by erotic service providers. The way a society treats this population says a lot about that society.

The sex trades exist for a variety of reasons, including reasons which don’t get consideration. Like an individual person- a society can collectively be living in denial.

During the two decades plus that I facilitated for people as an erotic service provider, I had access to literally thousands of people. I specialized in couples work. Trust me- you can’t imagine what my work consisted of. Whatever you might imagine will be based in whatever you think you know. You’d be wrong. That’s ok. I’m just telling you.

What I learned from close observation of the humans I experienced with was fascinating. There’s no university which could have afforded me such an education. (I think university education is highly overrated). Jung and I could’ve had a field day I’m sure.

My motive was to create and hold space for each person/couple in their process of exploring their own sexual psyche. A truly safe space. The way I’ve seen it- sacred space. Total vulnerability with total surrender of fears.

There’s all sorts of work going on in the realm of erotic services.

While simultaneously, you’ll find the worst traits of humanity. Of course. Because sex is at the very heart of the human condition.

That was my stream of consciousness (😆) while drinking coffee and waking up this morning lol


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28151392 - 01/22/23 01:33 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

OP, So youre upset that people are monetizing their assets but you dont have access to them?


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28151772 - 01/22/23 09:31 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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OP, So youre upset that people are monetizing their assets but you dont have access to them?







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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28151962 - 01/22/23 11:03 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

Cope harder


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28154039 - 01/23/23 03:10 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Your only 'argument' is to make up a fake scenario in your own mind, and then attempt to project that onto me.

Anyone has access to those 'assets'
That's my whole point.

Are you butthurt that a guy on the internet is criticising your pr0n
Did you take it as a personal attack?

It's not a personal attack. Don't worry.
It's my own opinion on the commodifiaction of sex.
Don't take it to heart.

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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28154078 - 01/23/23 03:30 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
I’ve been reading this thread with interest.

I’ve got 24 years as a provider in the realm of adult services.
I’ve watched as things have morphed over time.

I can say that not all “sex work” is equal. The “industry” as it’s often referred to, or “sex trade” is not a singular thing which can be easily described. There is a spectrum of circumstances, motives, vocations, cultures within cultures, different markets different economies, etc.

The people who sell as well as the people who buy what’s being sold are all over the spectrum as far as circumstances and motives.

There are predators and bad actors amongst both buyers and sellers.

Some provide because they feel they have no other options (could be true), some provide because they actually want to do the work. Within all this there are various motives. I can only speak for myself regarding my motives. I can make observations.

There is a healthy parameter for erotic services. I don’t believe this parameter exists online or with the vast majority of pornography as unpopular as that opinion might be with many of my peers. The “findoms” and some amongst the “sugar babies” which appeared with the rise in popularity of social media, aren’t it either.

Some of these accounts exist for the sole purpose of con artistry taking advantage of people (namely men). Some of them are men posing as women btw. They even justify it by stating their targets “asked for it” “consented to it”. Ironic if you think about it. If men stated such a thing they’d be crucified.

“Sex work” I prefer “erotic services” consists of all sorts of vocations. Some are strictly online with nothing ever being face to face. Some of the work is legal, some of the work is criminalized. Some of it involves in person sex, some is strictly performance, some of it is only media based, phone based, online only, etc.

There is a population of people providing various erotic services (including prostitution) because of life circumstances (addiction, poverty, homelessness, criminal record that blocks employment). Many amongst those who feel it’s the best option they have to earn any living, often end up resenting their clients. They’d be doing something else if they could, they wouldn’t do the work they’re doing were it not for circumstances. This ends up unhealthy for both providers and buyers, unhealthy for society.

This population is vastly larger than the number of people actually being forced against their will by another person. when force/fraud/coercion is involved, this is sex trafficking.

I’ve observed people who resent providing (even though they did it of their own volition) end up claiming they were trafficked. No one actually trafficked them, but they equate their negative experience with being forced. It was circumstance which forced them. With deeper scrutiny we might find that amongst these people, some aren’t acknowledging their own responsibility in the situation. This isn’t trafficking as much as a variety of anti sex work NGO’s want it to be and even claim as much. These NGO’s have spent billions over the last two decades trying to convince the public that all erotic services is trafficking.

People old enough can remember when law enforcement engaged in “prostitution stings” announced on the news outlets. Today, all prostitution stings are called trafficking investigations. Most of the investigations touted as such are actually prostitution stings involving adults seeking adults. Mostly consensual workers. The public wrongly believes something is being done about trafficking. Law enforcement can’t generate the same amount in revenue going after traffickers as compared to arresting consenting adults engaging in prostitution. Folks should go look at the DOJ crime data and do the math. Including the amount of funding given to law enforcement up against how many trafficking cases and prostitution arrests.

Sex is a core human issue. It is extremely important. Humans are still wrestling with it. The species evolves but it’s not always good. Humans tend to go to extremes. The sex part of the human puzzle is pretty messed up on a cultural level.

The sex trades are a mirror of the culture. All of a culture’s secrets bad (and some are good) are carried by erotic service providers. The way a society treats this population says a lot about that society.

The sex trades exist for a variety of reasons, including reasons which don’t get consideration. Like an individual person- a society can collectively be living in denial.

During the two decades plus that I facilitated for people as an erotic service provider, I had access to literally thousands of people. I specialized in couples work. Trust me- you can’t imagine what my work consisted of. Whatever you might imagine will be based in whatever you think you know. You’d be wrong. That’s ok. I’m just telling you.

What I learned from close observation of the humans I experienced with was fascinating. There’s no university which could have afforded me such an education. (I think university education is highly overrated). Jung and I could’ve had a field day I’m sure.

My motive was to create and hold space for each person/couple in their process of exploring their own sexual psyche. A truly safe space. The way I’ve seen it- sacred space. Total vulnerability with total surrender of fears.

There’s all sorts of work going on in the realm of erotic services.

While simultaneously, you’ll find the worst traits of humanity. Of course. Because sex is at the very heart of the human condition.

That was my stream of consciousness (😆) while drinking coffee and waking up this morning lol





This was a great thought provoking post.
Thank you for your input.

I agree that not all sex work is equal,  but my aversion to it as a whole stems from something more deeper and fundamental, to the principal of  sex / love being viewed as something transactional.

Indulging in porn and the like, may bring people some short term pleasure, but it's not fulfilling or self sustaining in the way a loving relationship can be, and in many cases can be exploitative.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28155017 - 01/24/23 06:58 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Trypto-Fan said:

I agree that not all sex work is equal, but my aversion to it as a whole stems from something more deeper and fundamental, to the principal of sex / love being viewed as something transactional.

Indulging in porn and the like, may bring people some short term pleasure, but it's not fulfilling or self sustaining in the way a loving relationship can be . . .




Aren't many humans needs transactional?  Obtaining food and shelter is transactional.

I have a good buddy (we met three decades ago) who has recently been talking a lot to me about committing suicide. He has become more and more physically and socially isolated over the years. He lives alone in a beautiful large home in the mountains. His last intimate relationship was about 12 years ago.

He's so damaged and emotionally crippled from this isolation he can't even handle going for a massage. It's short sighted to equate human contact with sex. He is totally unable to cultivate & maintain a relationship. He has a lot of difficulty even shopping for groceries.

When you are dying of dehydration, you don't need an ice-cream milkshake

Human contact is at the heart of the human condition - not sex


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. *DELETED* [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28155569 - 01/24/23 01:39 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

i also took logic and langage classes.  Your opinion is cringe and incel.  No offense and i totally see where youre coming from im just telling you the way it sounds.  calling women "predators" sounds so cringe. 

i stand by my original statement which--is more of a red herring than a straw man btw-- that every organism on the face of the planet is capitalizing on every resource available as a means of survival.  assering some kind of moral higher ground just makes you sound like a walking fedora.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28155598 - 01/24/23 01:59 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Quote:

Trypto-Fan said:

I agree that not all sex work is equal, but my aversion to it as a whole stems from something more deeper and fundamental, to the principal of sex / love being viewed as something transactional.

Indulging in porn and the like, may bring people some short term pleasure, but it's not fulfilling or self sustaining in the way a loving relationship can be . . .




Aren't many humans needs transactional?  Obtaining food and shelter is transactional.

I have a good buddy (we met three decades ago) who has recently been talking a lot to me about committing suicide. He has become more and more physically and socially isolated over the years. He lives alone in a beautiful large home in the mountains. His last intimate relationship was about 12 years ago.

He's so damaged and emotionally crippled from this isolation he can't even handle going for a massage. It's short sighted to equate human contact with sex. He is totally unable to cultivate & maintain a relationship. He has a lot of difficulty even shopping for groceries.

When you are dying of dehydration, you don't need an ice-cream milkshake

Human contact is at the heart of the human condition - not sex



I agree. Human contact is essential.


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28155713 - 01/24/23 02:58 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Quote:

Trypto-Fan said:

I agree that not all sex work is equal, but my aversion to it as a whole stems from something more deeper and fundamental, to the principal of sex / love being viewed as something transactional.

Indulging in porn and the like, may bring people some short term pleasure, but it's not fulfilling or self sustaining in the way a loving relationship can be . . .




Aren't many humans needs transactional?  Obtaining food and shelter is transactional.

I have a good buddy (we met three decades ago) who has recently been talking a lot to me about committing suicide. He has become more and more physically and socially isolated over the years. He lives alone in a beautiful large home in the mountains. His last intimate relationship was about 12 years ago.

He's so damaged and emotionally crippled from this isolation he can't even handle going for a massage. It's short sighted to equate human contact with sex. He is totally unable to cultivate & maintain a relationship. He has a lot of difficulty even shopping for groceries.

When you are dying of dehydration, you don't need an ice-cream milkshake

Human contact is at the heart of the human condition - not sex





One acid trip many years ago, ushered me to the fact and simplicity of 4 things all humans need to live and be healthy...

Food
Water
Warmth
Affection

I see your "contact" in lieu of affection.
And I believe you to be spot on.
So many ppl crave the much needed affection that we end up with warped desires and kind of new age anomalies like onlyfans


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28157646 - 01/25/23 08:39 PM (1 year, 2 days ago)

True- it’s not long term sustainable (erotic services), but depending on the situation it sure can help get a person through until they do establish something which is sustainable. Or it may be what keeps a person from going totally crazy. Some people aren’t interested in having a committed relationship.

It may seem crazy but there’s more than a few marriages that were saved because at some point a partner stepped outside and got what they needed (yes needed)- they didn’t even necessarily want to- but had they not done so things would have deteriorated to a point it wouldn’t have been tolerable. They didn’t want to have an emotionally committed relationship beyond their partner so an erotic service provider is the option. I had clients who deeply loved their partners but the partner wasn’t able to (or wouldn’t) give them the contact they needed for various reasons, but they didn’t want to abandon their partner over it. 

Humans are complicated.

What a world, eh??


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Re: Onlyfans & the normalisation of sex work has destroyed women. And men. [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28157665 - 01/25/23 09:01 PM (1 year, 2 days ago)

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BeefSupremeJr said:
i also took logic and langage classes.  Your opinion is cringe and incel.  No offense and i totally see where youre coming from im just telling you the way it sounds.  calling women "predators" sounds so cringe. 

i stand by my original statement which--is more of a red herring than a straw man btw-- that every organism on the face of the planet is capitalizing on every resource available as a means of survival.  assering some kind of moral higher ground just makes you sound like a walking fedora.




There are women who are predators including those operating in the erotic services trades.

A couple of famous examples- Cardi B bragging about drugging and even raping men when she was a stripper. When this story broke it was gross seeing all the women who were justifying and cheering it. “Whatever you gotta do to pay the rent” “men exploit women so it’s ok for women to exploit men” was some of it.

The stripper ring in NYC that was drugging men and charging thousands to their credit cards was made into a movie. Women drugging men and stealing from them is apparently the new feminist mantra for some?

All the “fin dommes” who so often are man hating con artists. I see many of them rage about capitalism but they’re just as cut throat and greedy about money as a Wall Street trader or multinational corporation CEO. The entire “Fin domme” Schtick is about objectifying and exploiting men. It’s been like a cancer attached to the erotic services trades. It’s gross.

Female predators exist. I’m a woman and I’ve had women try to prey on me. Successfully until I opened my eyes to the reality.


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