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barisk22
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Re: Compilation of panaeolus cyanescens or pan cyan experiences & combo with THH or tetrahydroharmine, like organic psilocin LSD [Re: tregar] 1
#28409213 - 07/26/23 03:16 PM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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There is not much information about tetrahydroharmine pharmacology. If it is just an SSRI, imo it may be not worth the effort of extraction of harmaline and reducing it with zinc route. Considering tregar trip reports it may be not only SSRI, maybe something like more phenyletylamine-mescaline type dopaminergic molecule.
I am thinking to make peganum harmala acetic acid tea, and reducing it with zinc. This probably result a harmine+thh solution as harmine is not reduced to harmaline acording to some studies. This solution then may be precipated with base like naoh, 7 ph to harmine and 9 ph to thh.
Is anybody tried thh alone like 300 mg is it really like mescaline, is it worth the effort ?
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barisk22
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Re: Compilation of panaeolus cyanescens or pan cyan experiences & combo with THH or tetrahydroharmine, like organic psilocin LSD [Re: tregar]
#28442799 - 08/22/23 12:26 PM (5 months, 3 days ago) |
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I grinded 50 gr peganum harmala seeds and make acetic acid tea of it and add 2 gr zinc to solution and magnetic stir it for 12 hours. At the end of 12 hours I still see the green flourescence of harmine and harmaline under UV light, so I waited for 12 hours more and at the end all flourescence disappered. I decanted unreacted zinc and filtered the solution. I think this solution gives me harmine, thh and other reducted alkoloids of harmala like vascine also some zinc acetate. But I am not sure about harmine because there is no bright green floresence in solution. I reduced the solution about 500 ml and drink about 50 ml which is probably about 150 mg thh and 50 mg harmine and 100 mg zinc acetate. Taste is not good or bad.
Then I take 8 gr of dried cubes with 2 spoon of aloe vera gel which taste really horrible.
The effects are very intensified like 16 gr shroom and come up was harsh, which is probably because of aloe vera and harmine thh. I am not sure about that I really manage to make thh because there is no obvius blue fluroescence. Aloe vera taste horrible is there anyway to make it better ?
I also consider to get rid of zinc acetate and look also dmtnexus threads which says it is too hard to remove it, because behaves like alkoloid, some say manske it some say using naoh some say ammonium. Some say use magnesium instead of zinc. Because of possible contamination of zinc dust with more toxic heavy metals like cadminium is another problem. What is the most efficent and safest way to reduce harmaline to thh ?
Thanks,
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