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How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you?
    #28098093 - 12/14/22 11:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Simple question... Has your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms changed you, and if so, in what way(s)?

This can include changes in the way you think, feel, act, etc..

Have you noticed any personality changes?

Have you changed your mind about any issues, be they political, religious, spiritual, etc?

Have you noticed that any changes have been long lasting, or have they all been relatively short lived?

For the purpose of this thread...
short term - 1 day to 6 months
long term - >6 months to a 5 years
permanent - >5 years without noticeable reversal

Do you feel like your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms has changed you?
You may choose only one


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Edited by Shroomsandstuff (12/15/22 08:42 AM)


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098178 - 12/15/22 01:25 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It would be hard to say if any benefits are permanent because those benefits might taper off in the future. But I find regularly tripping does keep all those benefits 'topped up' to the levels you want them.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098201 - 12/15/22 02:39 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Most of what you have listed above would change naturally over time for people, I would hope so anyway. As we experience life we tend to see the world differently. The more you live the more you change, seeing and experiencing the world outside your parents bubble opens the mind.  The only people I imagine not growing and changing are people trapped in a cult.

Life shapes the nature of your psychedelic experiences.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098267 - 12/15/22 05:01 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

No one has any idea how much mushrooms have done anything for them because no one has a control study on themself. It's all anecdotal. I cannot see or experience my life without mushrooms. If it's anecdotal then it's not much better than a placebo in regards to claiming it did anything for you. Enjoy it all you want but people need to realize these substances aren't as special as they want to believe. I love psychedelics. But they're more of a key than a door. I can cut new keys if I want, or pick the stupid thing open. We do the work not mushrooms.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #28098367 - 12/15/22 07:57 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

While I agree that we do the work, not the mushrooms, my impression is that we can do a lot more work a lot faster with the mushrooms. I have only been using them for a year and I am a very different person than before. In almost universally positive ways. My friends notice it. My family notice it, my therapist graduated me (at least for now) because of how far I was able to come, my colleagues notice it, my gf totally sees it. And not all of them know about the mushrooms. And I see it doing the same for others I know using mushrooms for growth and healing.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28098396 - 12/15/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Grungeman17]
    #28098427 - 12/15/22 09:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Kmacmo said:
It would be hard to say if any benefits are permanent because those benefits might taper off in the future. But I find regularly tripping does keep all those benefits 'topped up' to the levels you want them.



This is true. Good point. I edited the OP for a bit of clarification. I just needed a distinction between long term and long term w/ noticeable reversal (needing to be topped off).

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Kiwi89 said:
Most of what you have listed above would change naturally over time for people, I would hope so anyway. As we experience life we tend to see the world differently. The more you live the more you change, seeing and experiencing the world outside your parents bubble opens the mind.  The only people I imagine not growing and changing are people trapped in a cult.

Life shapes the nature of your psychedelic experiences.



That's true, some of those things do tend to change, over the course of one's life, however those changes usually seem to be somewhat gradual, as opposed to changing, from one day to the next (i.e. going from being an atheist to being religious, or from believing that death is the end of the line to believing that we just end up in some other dimension).

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larry.fisherman said:
No one has any idea how much mushrooms have done anything for them because no one has a control study on themself. It's all anecdotal. I cannot see or experience my life without mushrooms. If it's anecdotal then it's not much better than a placebo in regards to claiming it did anything for you. Enjoy it all you want but people need to realize these substances aren't as special as they want to believe. I love psychedelics. But they're more of a key than a door. I can cut new keys if I want, or pick the stupid thing open. We do the work not mushrooms.



Anecdotes are exactly what I'm asking for. There are already some studies about how psilocybin affects people, and there are likely going to be many more conducted in the coming years. For instance, it has been shown, that a psilocybin trip can affect one's personality scores on the Big Five Aspects Scale, which tend to otherwise remain relatively stable, over the course of one's adult life.
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In participants who had mystical experiences during their psilocybin session, Openness remained significantly higher than baseline more than 1 year after the session. The findings suggest a specific role for psilocybin and mystical-type experiences in adult personality change.



It has also been shown that a psilocybin trip can get a large percentage of people to quit smoking, which is pretty fascinating.

Both of those changes would be identifiable by a single person, experimenting on himself. While causation would be difficult to prove, I'd think that one could make a relatively accurate, educated guess, and if multiple people come to the same conclusions, it would definitely be worth considering, IMO.

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While I agree that we do the work, not the mushrooms, my impression is that we can do a lot more work a lot faster with the mushrooms. I have only been using them for a year and I am a very different person than before. In almost universally positive ways. My friends notice it. My family notice it, my therapist graduated me (at least for now) because of how far I was able to come, my colleagues notice it, my gf totally sees it. And not all of them know about the mushrooms. And I see it doing the same for others I know using mushrooms for growth and healing.



That's great to hear! In what ways do you feel like you have been able to improve, through your use of mushrooms?

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Grungeman17 said:
I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change



How often do you use mushrooms? Do you find that the positive effects of each dose taper off, over time, requiring another session, or do they feel like they are permanent and that you just continue to make more progress with each new trip?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff] * 2
    #28098467 - 12/15/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I went into my mushroom experimentation a wound up bundle of raw nerves. Medical PTSD, 2 near death experiences, coping with nerve damage and chronic pain, anxiety, depression, hyper vigilance, chronic insomnia. And more.

Now I’m totally chill, anxiety is completely gone. Depression is barely noticeable, my vigilance is gone, ptsd is gone, my insomnia is tremendously reduced and I’m off all my psych meds.

I’m grounded, centered, and more at ease in my body than I’ve ever been, and I’m 54.

Plus all the microdosing/Stamets stack I do between trips may be helping my neuropathy. I’ve been living with it for years. In the last year different aspects are complete gone and others are significantly improved.

I’m also in a region where decriminalization is happening at the town level, and I’m working with care providers, donating mushrooms to them at no charge for now to pay it all forward and be of service.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Grungeman17]
    #28098620 - 12/15/22 11:36 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Grungeman17 said:
I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change




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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098798 - 12/15/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Has your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms changed you, and if so, in what way(s)?




It was an LSD trip at the age of 17 that had a big impact on my life. I became very interested in philosophical ideas and consciousness and chose to study philosophy at university as a result. I was a fairly lazy student, and I think if I'd picked another subject that didn't really interest me, I would probably have dropped out. To be honest I think that one LSD trip, and the thoughts it provoked, gave me a bit of insight that helped write essays on the philosophy of mind.

My experience with psychedelics in my teens was very brief, just one mushroom trip and one LSD trip (plus a handful of experiences on ecstasy and speed, one of which gave me vivid CEV for some reason). It was over a dozen years later before I started tripping regularly on mushrooms.

:awemush:

I think mushrooms fulfil a kind of longing for "something more" from life, something magical and mysterious that you sense as a child but then stays out of reach until you try psychedelics and it looms into view. This passage from an article by Matt Cardin titled Autumn Longing: Alan Watts expresses the kind of feeling I am talking about:

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This autumn longing, this sehnsucht, this tantalizing, maddening glimpse of some ultimate beauty and fulfillment and joy that lies perpetually beyond the horizon, this distinct scent or flavor of some infinite bliss that seems to reside half in memory and half in imagination, remaining always distinctly real and yet always just beyond my ability fully to grasp or realize — this is, apparently, a permanent part of my, and our, constitution as human beings, a kind of existential haunting that we as homo sapiens are blessed and doomed to know.




:sunstone:

It's not so much that my mushroom trips cause some dramatic process of self-improvement (although I think they have a kind of energizing or anti-depressant effect that helps to keep me feeling engaged and interested in life), but that having access to these amazing experiences means I can get more genuine enjoyment from the simple, normal things in life without wishing for "something more" that is always out of reach.

I've said elsewhere that I'm not really 'spiritual,' but if you can figure out how to enjoy the most basic things in life you are getting a bit closer to the idea of "there is no way to happiness; happiness is the way." I feel happier in myself now that I'm tripping a few times a year, although it doesn't magically stop me getting pissed off or stressed by other people or external events.

:evildog: :tigerbunny:

One practical effect of shrooms was to get me started writing out a "trip journal" on each trip, which then developed into an interest in writing stories when I was sober. Also it got me interested very interested in "weird fiction," so overall I'm probably reading and writing more than I would have done otherwise (not to mention all the long rambling posts I make on the Shroomery).

Considering that I didn't trip at all during my 20s, it gives me more of a feeling for life with and without psychedelics. Overall my 20s feel like a bit of a lost decade which would have been livened up with some psychedelics. Even after a dozen years I was still haunted by the glimpses of the world I'd seen while tripping, so I guess it was inevitable I'd return to it when I got the chance. :mushroom2:


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #28098915 - 12/15/22 02:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I never knew what empathy was, I knew the word but that's it. Now I do. I am grateful for the shit in my life because it has brought me to the point that I am at now and right now ain't too bad at all.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Tucky]
    #28098974 - 12/15/22 03:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I think it's unpopular to talk about any crazy ideas you have come up with because of mushrooms because people want to think of them as not being able to actually change you, and only want to believe that they help you change yourself.

Of course I have never been popular with people anyway other than they like me because I'm a caring person and work to create a good environment rather than cause people trouble.

But my ideas are not well received by most anyway.

Regardless, I get the feeling that people don't want to be reminded of their own madness.

In dealing with mushrooms, I like to approach creative ideas playfully, rather than seriously, so I'm comfortable in delving into madness, and you can find some truth among the madness that is helpful, but most of it is just a place to visit rather than live in.

Here is a good video to explain how mushrooms open your mind, but in a more down to earth explanation.

Just like how people rely on faith to gain something binifitial out of religion or spirituality, I also like to put a little faith in the possibility of the unknown, but it's just a hope rather than a conviction.

This link is helpful in understand the relationship between the possibility of mushrooms, and the reality of them.

It might help you understand why they can cause long term changes, and why they are helpful in delving into madness as well.

Madness is after all the place where we spend most of our lives.



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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #28099840 - 12/16/22 02:33 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Made me a more grounded and down to earth😊


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #28099860 - 12/16/22 03:08 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I really appreciate your candor. It is reassuring and comforting to know people experience things similarly to myself!

I hope to one day reach your level of acceptance of the madness  :grin:


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: faithfulcrows]
    #28106426 - 12/20/22 06:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Anyone else?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28106533 - 12/20/22 07:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

They made me want to eat more mushrooms. :awesome:


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Northerner]
    #28106559 - 12/20/22 08:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

They pulled back the curtain on reality

:shocked:

The curtain closed back up again, but now I know there's something incredible behind it.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28108055 - 12/21/22 10:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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They made me want to eat more mushrooms. :awesome:



Lol What is it about them that makes you want to keep tripping? Do you use them just for fun, or other purposes?



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They pulled back the curtain on reality

:shocked:

The curtain closed back up again, but now I know there's something incredible behind it.



That's interesting. What do you now believe exists "behind the curtain", and how long did it take for things said curtain to "close back up"?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff] * 1
    #28108074 - 12/21/22 10:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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They made me want to eat more mushrooms. :awesome:



Lol What is it about them that makes you want to keep tripping? Do you use them just for fun, or other purposes?




If I take psychedelics fairly regularly I don't get low and I don't fall into traps with other substances. It's a hell of a lot of fun for me though, even scary or difficult experiences I really enjoy.

It's been a very long time now I have been a convert. The darkest times in my life and the times I made the most mistakes were times when I wasn't touching psychedelics.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28108310 - 12/22/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Shroomsandstuff said:

Quote:

Blue Cthulhu said:
They pulled back the curtain on reality

:shocked:

The curtain closed back up again, but now I know there's something incredible behind it.



That's interesting. What do you now believe exists "behind the curtain", and how long did it take for things said curtain to "close back up"?




Hmm good question, maybe something like infinite peace and spaciousness that is dynamically alive and creative. The curtain usually closes back up most of the way by the end of the trip (although after one particularly transformative experience, it remained a good ways open for a couple months after). I don’t think it ever fully closes - I actually believe that our very existence depends upon what is behind it, it is always sustaining us and providing Life to us, just to varying degrees.


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