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How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you?
    #28098093 - 12/14/22 11:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Simple question... Has your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms changed you, and if so, in what way(s)?

This can include changes in the way you think, feel, act, etc..

Have you noticed any personality changes?

Have you changed your mind about any issues, be they political, religious, spiritual, etc?

Have you noticed that any changes have been long lasting, or have they all been relatively short lived?

For the purpose of this thread...
short term - 1 day to 6 months
long term - >6 months to a 5 years
permanent - >5 years without noticeable reversal

Do you feel like your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms has changed you?
You may choose only one


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Edited by Shroomsandstuff (12/15/22 08:42 AM)


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Grungeman17]
    #28098427 - 12/15/22 09:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Kmacmo said:
It would be hard to say if any benefits are permanent because those benefits might taper off in the future. But I find regularly tripping does keep all those benefits 'topped up' to the levels you want them.



This is true. Good point. I edited the OP for a bit of clarification. I just needed a distinction between long term and long term w/ noticeable reversal (needing to be topped off).

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Kiwi89 said:
Most of what you have listed above would change naturally over time for people, I would hope so anyway. As we experience life we tend to see the world differently. The more you live the more you change, seeing and experiencing the world outside your parents bubble opens the mind.  The only people I imagine not growing and changing are people trapped in a cult.

Life shapes the nature of your psychedelic experiences.



That's true, some of those things do tend to change, over the course of one's life, however those changes usually seem to be somewhat gradual, as opposed to changing, from one day to the next (i.e. going from being an atheist to being religious, or from believing that death is the end of the line to believing that we just end up in some other dimension).

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larry.fisherman said:
No one has any idea how much mushrooms have done anything for them because no one has a control study on themself. It's all anecdotal. I cannot see or experience my life without mushrooms. If it's anecdotal then it's not much better than a placebo in regards to claiming it did anything for you. Enjoy it all you want but people need to realize these substances aren't as special as they want to believe. I love psychedelics. But they're more of a key than a door. I can cut new keys if I want, or pick the stupid thing open. We do the work not mushrooms.



Anecdotes are exactly what I'm asking for. There are already some studies about how psilocybin affects people, and there are likely going to be many more conducted in the coming years. For instance, it has been shown, that a psilocybin trip can affect one's personality scores on the Big Five Aspects Scale, which tend to otherwise remain relatively stable, over the course of one's adult life.
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In participants who had mystical experiences during their psilocybin session, Openness remained significantly higher than baseline more than 1 year after the session. The findings suggest a specific role for psilocybin and mystical-type experiences in adult personality change.



It has also been shown that a psilocybin trip can get a large percentage of people to quit smoking, which is pretty fascinating.

Both of those changes would be identifiable by a single person, experimenting on himself. While causation would be difficult to prove, I'd think that one could make a relatively accurate, educated guess, and if multiple people come to the same conclusions, it would definitely be worth considering, IMO.

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BlueAndOrange said:
While I agree that we do the work, not the mushrooms, my impression is that we can do a lot more work a lot faster with the mushrooms. I have only been using them for a year and I am a very different person than before. In almost universally positive ways. My friends notice it. My family notice it, my therapist graduated me (at least for now) because of how far I was able to come, my colleagues notice it, my gf totally sees it. And not all of them know about the mushrooms. And I see it doing the same for others I know using mushrooms for growth and healing.



That's great to hear! In what ways do you feel like you have been able to improve, through your use of mushrooms?

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Grungeman17 said:
I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change



How often do you use mushrooms? Do you find that the positive effects of each dose taper off, over time, requiring another session, or do they feel like they are permanent and that you just continue to make more progress with each new trip?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: faithfulcrows]
    #28106426 - 12/20/22 06:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Anyone else?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28108055 - 12/21/22 10:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Northerner said:
They made me want to eat more mushrooms. :awesome:



Lol What is it about them that makes you want to keep tripping? Do you use them just for fun, or other purposes?



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Blue Cthulhu said:
They pulled back the curtain on reality

:shocked:

The curtain closed back up again, but now I know there's something incredible behind it.



That's interesting. What do you now believe exists "behind the curtain", and how long did it take for things said curtain to "close back up"?


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: doolhoofd]
    #28110238 - 12/23/22 05:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Sub-Easy said:
But I have always gotten low blood sugar my whole life.(not from pot. I don't drink or smoke pot, or do drugs) It's not very bad for your health, and is actually the only harmful thing that marijuana does to people, but is pretty harmless in itself.



Cannabis does have some potential negative side effects, other than affecting blood glucose levels, but it's interesting to hear about how mushrooms affected your relationship with sugar. I haven't heard that one, before.

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PancyanterA said:
I’ve been on the path of self improvement through sacrifice and discipline for years now. Meditation, reading, podcast, wake up early, regular exercise, healthy nutrition, limit alcohol, cold showers….




We have a lot of similar self-improvement practices.
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PancyanterA said:
It makes perfect sense to me how someone dying of cancer can gain acceptance and peace with the use of mushrooms. I see how people can be atheist and then “know” there’s a God after consuming mushrooms.




This is one of the things that worries me about trying mushrooms. I don't want to start believing in things in which I currently don't believe, as a result of hallucinations. It seems useful if one is near the end of his life, but that's not me.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28110277 - 12/23/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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BlueAndOrange said:
I am an atheist both before and after using mushrooms. Despite that I have widened my perspective on connectedness and spirituality. No religion has leaked in.



That sounds much less concerning than does going from being an atheist to believing in god, overnight. Lol


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: rocky_raccoon]
    #28113971 - 12/27/22 12:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Sub-Easy said:
P.s time is still not the same for me as it used to be.

I used to be able to get so much done in a day just a year ago, but now I'm still going at the same pace, but the time just runs past me and the day is over.

For some reason It doesn't seem to effect my reality because I still can pay rent, and get everything done that needs to get done, and no one is telling me to hurry up or that I'm not getting enough done in the day, but it's like, by the time I get my shoes on in the morning, it's already lunch time.

It's like the world's laws have changed but I'm the same.

You would think that people would notice that I'm coming into work and hour later and getting half as much done, but no one seems to notice or has ever said anything to me other than I'm doing a great job. It's like I'm the only one who noticed.

Also, I never know what day of the week it is, and I'll get up and wake everyone up for school or work and it's Saturday, or I'll think it's Friday and it's only Tuesday.

That happens all the time, and never did before mushrooms.

I think I may have lost a day while tripping, or repeated a day, and that explains the identical trip, and would also put me a day behind the original timeline.

But who the fuck knows?

It hasn't seemed to affect my life or others, so I guess it's cool.

Obviously, I'm of a right mind, and know those things are impossible, but I'm just saying what I've observed. Regardless of the fact that I know I can't believe any of it is true.

It doesn't really make any difference in my life though, and I don't really think about it, or do anything about it, so everything is as it should be, but I would say it seems a little strange.

I haven't noticed any other strange things like that, but I really have had some strange new developments when it comes to time.

I know that when I was a kid, an hour long meeting, or something like that, would feel like three hours, and also as we get older, time seems to speed up. That stuff is normal for everyone, but I definitely don't think it's normal for the day to go by so fast as it started to after I did mushrooms.

I kinda think of it like how a turtle can't see an eagle fly past because it's brain doesn't process things that fast, but a hawk will see everything in slow motion.

Maybe the timing in my brain got thrown off. But instead of processing stuff slow like a turtle, I actually process it much faster now (than before) and have actually excelled in my job and am much more looked at as the go to guy when it's time to figure something out.




This is interesting...and somewhat concerning, even though it doesn't seem like it's been the cause of much trouble, for you. Time distortion sounds like it could be problematic.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this (not necessarily during a trip, but for a while afterwards)?

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Shroomsandstuff said:This is one of the things that worries me about trying mushrooms. I don't want to start believing in things in which I currently don't believe, as a result of hallucinations. It seems useful if one is near the end of his life, but that's not me.




Well…. What is God? Nobody knows and it’s deeply personal... [edited quote: I cut out a chunk here]

See what I’m trying to get at? I’m not necessarily a Christian. I will often say yes to avoid all this lol but I wouldn’t really say that I am. I typically say “God, The Universe, quantum field, energy…. whatever you want to call it. It doesn’t matter.”



Yea, I see what you mean. I wish there was a more uniform use of various terms like those, to make these kinds of discussions simpler and more efficient.

Personally, I use all of those terms to refer to different things:
god - an omnipotent/omniscient, intelligent being
the universe - "all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos"
quantum field - I don't use this term, because I don't know anything significantly useful about quantum physics, and I don't like to just create a definition for a word/term.
energy -"the capacity for doing work. It may exist in potential, kinetic, thermal, electrical, chemical, nuclear, or other various forms" / I don't use this to describe any sort of mystical/spiritual force

When people say things like "it's up to the universe", I'm usually curious if they think that there is some sort of intelligent force in play, or if they literally just mean that nature will take its course.

For instance, I don't believe that you can literally ask the universe for things, unlike what is taught in "The Secret", or by a lot of people who talk about "manifestation". I think you can use visualization to help align your actions with your goal, so you can achieve it in the future, but I don't think that the act of visualizing yourself with a boat, in and of itself, will somehow attract a boat into your life.

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pepz said:
I had no appreciation for how conscious non animals were. The lack of education in the scientific community wasn't so obvious before.



This is interesting. Are you referring to plants/fungi/other living organisms, or to everything? I ask because I've heard people speak about sensing some sort of consciousness or life force present in inanimate objects, while on psychedelics. 
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pepz said:
I feel sorry for those who can't handle them. I think they're going to hell and the mushroom exposes it to them. Sometimes people are already in hell and they make it out and others never ascend. Dude was my friend before he turned Israel spy and he felt so ashamed at how he betrayed me, he kept asking me if he should cut his finger off.



When you say "hell", do you mean in the biblical sense, or in the sense of just having a miserable life, here, on Earth.

Either way, did you always hold such beliefs, or did psychedelics influence them?
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Jim I.T.I said:
as for the post that said they're afraid of hallucinations causing belief in something... if you go through a true psychedelic experience, you may realize you were "believing" in a non pure way. or, what you believe in now will only be reinforced. or, that you need to shift your beliefs. in a good way. or that you're clinging to a material world / ego which was by no fault of your own or necessarily your teachers, taught to you.

and yeah, i think jesus and all his deciples were trip'n balls AF. literally EVERY religion has psychedelic art. visions. why can't they all be saying the same thing, just in different languages and metaphors/perceptions of different cultural and environmental stimuli? while passing elements of the previous dominant belief system down the line?



That's an interesting perspective. 

I suspect that a lot of religions/spiritual beliefs are based on people's psychedelic experiences, too.

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rocky_raccoon said:
Some posts here get me really concerned if I should continue taking mushrooms. Completely losing touch with reality isn't one of my life goals.:uhoh:



Lol
Yea, loss of touch with reality is something that concerns me, as well. Despite all of the things that I think psychedelics, particularly mushrooms, can help with, I don't consider the benefits to be worth losing any sort of connection with reality.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28115695 - 12/28/22 08:42 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

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PancyanterA said:Wtf is reality? Are you losing touch or are you gaining a new perspective? Who regulates the response/experience and determines what is real or not, in touch out of touch, etc….?



This is discussed pretty interestingly in my other thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28031713/fpart/1/vc/1

In my opinion, the "who" which determines what is real/not, and what is in touch/out of touch with reality, is the sober population that experiences things that are objectively the same (or as close to the same as we can get, given natural, slight perceptual differences), and/or the person/population who can support his/its claim(s) via repeatable testing.

For instance, if there are 10 sober people in a room, and they all can observe that a a statue is motionless (which is also a testable claim), and one person who took a drug claims that it is dancing or swaying, I would side with the claims made by the 10 sober people over the one person who's on drugs. If the drug consumer's claim can be proven via testing, that's a different story, but his experiencing it, alone, while under the influence of a chemical(s) that affects perception, is less convincing.


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