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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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I think it's unpopular to talk about any crazy ideas you have come up with because of mushrooms because people want to think of them as not being able to actually change you, and only want to believe that they help you change yourself.
Of course I have never been popular with people anyway other than they like me because I'm a caring person and work to create a good environment rather than cause people trouble. But my ideas are not well received by most anyway. Regardless, I get the feeling that people don't want to be reminded of their own madness. In dealing with mushrooms, I like to approach creative ideas playfully, rather than seriously, so I'm comfortable in delving into madness, and you can find some truth among the madness that is helpful, but most of it is just a place to visit rather than live in. Here is a good video to explain how mushrooms open your mind, but in a more down to earth explanation. Just like how people rely on faith to gain something binifitial out of religion or spirituality, I also like to put a little faith in the possibility of the unknown, but it's just a hope rather than a conviction. This link is helpful in understand the relationship between the possibility of mushrooms, and the reality of them. It might help you understand why they can cause long term changes, and why they are helpful in delving into madness as well. Madness is after all the place where we spend most of our lives. -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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I have seen an individual on here wanting volunteers for a study on microdoseing and gut health. I'm surprised that they weren't interested in me, but I never had a chance to tell them my experience with regular size dosing (I don't microdose)
I could be crazy and say that the little creatures in our guts are affected by the drug and maybe they are tripping or getting in touch with communication with a universal language that most living thing speak with. Like how trees speak with other trees through the fungus. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. (It's real PROVEN science) Or there could be a simple explanation. But I have always gotten low blood sugar my whole life.(not from pot. I don't drink or smoke pot, or do drugs) It's not very bad for your health, and is actually the only harmful thing that marijuana does to people, but is pretty harmless in itself. Most of you will be familiar with it if you smoke pot, (I've definitely done it a bit, but it's not for me) but the only part that is a little hard on your body over time is when you eat allot of sugar (because pot causes low blood sugar, so your body wants you to eat (the munchies)) and if you eat allot of sugar, it will cause a pike in your blood sugar, and it's the strong fluctuation that is hard on your body. But it's not that bad for you. (Just low blood sugar from smoking pot will not hurt you as long as you don't eat allot of sugar and cause a rapid spike. It's the spike that is hard on the body. I don't want to give any wrong ideas about smoking pot) Anyway, I have always gotten low blood sugar, and would wake up in the middle of the night and crave candy and stuff, and on a long day at work I wouldn't eat because it slows you down to eat while working and you also don't digest well when you are active. (It's all medical science if you don't know about what I'm talking about) so I would get disoriented and really irritable from low blood sugar. I could recognize the symptoms easy, because it's been like that since I was at least a teen. After the mushrooms, it INSTANTLY went away COMPLETELY, and has NEVER returned. I also stopped eating sugar like I used to, but still do a little. I don't know if I stopped craving sugar because my low blood sugar went away, or if my low blood sugar went away because I stopped eating allot of sugar and my body heald it's self. But I don't think my body heald itself of whatever was causing the low blood sugar because it happened overnight. It's much more likely that the mushrooms cured me in the most miraculous way, from my lifelong health issue. Haven't had low blood sugar once in almost a year now. It used to be almost daily, and I haven't woken up in the middle of the night with a ravenous craving for sugar ether. That was at least a couple times a week, and I don't ever go to the kitchen in the middle of the night anymore. It stopped, on the spot, the very day, the first time I did mushrooms. You tell me! So, obviously something is going on with that, and I'm surprised I haven't heard other stories about this. Also, it made me want to eat more healthy anyway and helped me to be in better touch with my body and any health problems, and what might be causing them. I've always liked to eat healthy, but now I crave healthy food and am turning off by unhealthy food and even smoking cigarettes, even though I'm still addicted. It all happened overnight. Anyone else have a real miracle happen as far as health. Like instant change kind of thing? I know they help with addiction, but I'm interested in things like instant curing of a health issue. Miracle kind of stuff like I had. -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime. Edited by Sub-Easy (12/22/22 12:24 PM)
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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You said plenty brother (or sister).
I couldn't have said it better myself, and indeed I couldn't say it at all now. I once understood what you said too, and held onto it for a good long time, but as time goes by, I've forgotten that "truth ?" I think you would be good at writing the novel, as you have done such a good job at articulating it here. I'm sure many of us thought we could write a novel as the cosmic download was in progress, and even though I'm aware of thoughts sounding really good while you are high, and not so much after, I think that if you could give an accurate translation of the information, it would not be just addled jumbled nonsense. If you are lucky enough to even remember the full experience, then it's still hard to hold onto it after a few months or so. That's my reason for commenting. Do you think that because you were already on the path of understanding your mind, and spiritual/meditation practices, that you were able to hold onto the lesson so well, or is it just that you tripped recently? I remember that I once gave a very detailed trip report on here, and then two days later, or it might have been the next day, I gave the exact same trip report, but for two different trips I had no idea I had done that, and only found out because I later came across my first trip report. It freaked me out to see I had written the same thing, but I was describing two different trips, and after that I was able to remember my trips, and realize that I was experiencing a tremendous amount of things while tripping that I had no recollection of after. Now, after realizing that, I can remember much more after the drug wears off. For all I know, I still might be experiencing many things while tripping that I don't even know I am. The strangest thing I think, is that you would think that I would remember writing the trip report the day before, because I was not tripping when I wrote it, but I had totally forgotten, and then wrote an identical report the next day, describing a totally different time tripping, and didn't even catch on until a few days later. I had no idea I had done it, and I was sober both times. It's very strange that I had the exact same trip, once on Saturday, and again on Sunday, but it's even stranger that I didn't know I had, even though I wrote a trip report for both times. That realization really changed my trip game, and to this day, I still go to the same place in the beginning of my trips, and meet the same entities and I remember them, and they remember me, and we talk about things relating to the times before when I had met with them. I even missed them for a while, and still do a lot, but I have forgotten much of what I learned. Looks like you still remember. I'm impressed. P.s time is still not the same for me as it used to be. I used to be able to get so much done in a day just a year ago, but now I'm still going at the same pace, but the time just runs past me and the day is over. For some reason It doesn't seem to effect my reality because I still can pay rent, and get everything done that needs to get done, and no one is telling me to hurry up or that I'm not getting enough done in the day, but it's like, by the time I get my shoes on in the morning, it's already lunch time. It's like the world's laws have changed but I'm the same. You would think that people would notice that I'm coming into work and hour later and getting half as much done, but no one seems to notice or has ever said anything to me other than I'm doing a great job. It's like I'm the only one who noticed. Also, I never know what day of the week it is, and I'll get up and wake everyone up for school or work and it's Saturday, or I'll think it's Friday and it's only Tuesday. That happens all the time, and never did before mushrooms. I think I may have lost a day while tripping, or repeated a day, and that explains the identical trip, and would also put me a day behind the original timeline. But who the fuck knows? It hasn't seemed to affect my life or others, so I guess it's cool. Obviously, I'm of a right mind, and know those things are impossible, but I'm just saying what I've observed. Regardless of the fact that I know I can't believe any of it is true. It doesn't really make any difference in my life though, and I don't really think about it, or do anything about it, so everything is as it should be, but I would say it seems a little strange. I haven't noticed any other strange things like that, but I really have had some strange new developments when it comes to time. I know that when I was a kid, an hour long meeting, or something like that, would feel like three hours, and also as we get older, time seems to speed up. That stuff is normal for everyone, but I definitely don't think it's normal for the day to go by so fast as it started to after I did mushrooms. I kinda think of it like how a turtle can't see an eagle fly past because it's brain doesn't process things that fast, but a hawk will see everything in slow motion. Maybe the timing in my brain got thrown off. But instead of processing stuff slow like a turtle, I actually process it much faster now (than before) and have actually excelled in my job and am much more looked at as the go to guy when it's time to figure something out. It always blows my mind when the coustomer, the contractor, and my boss, turn and look at me to lay out the job and explain how it's all going to be designed. It was never like that before I did mushrooms, although I have always been able to picture the end result in my mind very quickly. I keep telling them I'm just the plumber, but when I walk into an empty bathroom in a million dollar house and the coustomer only has a vision of what they want, but no one knows how to do it, so I get out the old tape measure, and start laying it out and going over a million options and what we have to do to make it work. But they all seem really appreciative, and I only started to be able to do that after I did mushrooms. Before that, I just did the water lines for five years, and didn't know anything else. Less than a year later and I can do anything, and think circles around everyone. Of course I always figured I could, but the mushrooms gave me the confidence to do it, and everyone just stepped out of my way. I wondered my whole life why I was never allowed to be in charge, and couldn't understand what was so special about the leader, that everyone looked to him. I think mushrooms just made me realize that people are full of shit, and none of them know anything, and that you just have to be a dick and take the lead and egnor their protests because they just act like they know everything but don't really know any more than you. People will actually like you better if you are like that believe it or not. I think it's because they trust you more when you are assertive rather than submissive and afraid of being confrontational. I don't know. All I know is that I tried really hard to be friendly and do what I thought would make people happy and I couldn't get anyone to include me, and now that I'm a dick, and do what I think is best, I can't get people to leave me the fuck alon, and everyone wants to be my buddy. Go figure. But you know that that is a very common example of how mushrooms work. They make you fearless, and they help you cut through the bullshit and get to what is important in life and what are the true priorities. They take you out of the mud that you have been taught to wallow in, and indeed have convinced yourself is your proper place in life, sloshing around in all the bullshit you have been told to believe about yourself, and playing the games others have taught you to play in order to scrape off a little from each other but never really stand on your own. But be warned, that also comes with a whole other set of dangers. You might be better off not knowing yourself, and just staying in the world you created to blind yourself from the truth, and continue to fulfill your role in someone else's games that they pay you so well to be a subordinate part of. Edited by Sub-Easy (12/22/22 02:46 PM)
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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I also noticed glossolalia as a side effect for a couple weeks after.
Just wanting to make noises that felt fun in my throat and kinda impulsive when I was feeling playful or had a nice thought. I don't know if that's related to your wanting to sing or hum, but it was a strange, but pleasant, long lasting side effect. I definitely get euphoric glossolalia when tripping. Sometimes loud and prolonged glossolalia. -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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I'm not a practitioner of religion or spirituality, but I am a student of world religion and history, so of course I went in search of cultural knowledge that would explain the trip.
Obviously I have heard Ram Daas, and other more commonly accessible spiritual thinkers, but the "religious" beliefs alone are extremely enlightening, even without practicing them. I like the spiritual study of the levels of self as relates to consciousness and dreaming, that are studied in Hinduism. The idea of turiya, seems to be a well thought out philosophy. But, there are so many great spiritual philosophies around the world that lend themselves to the trip world. Obviously telepathy is hard to translate into words, but you can still remember the meaning of the information you are experiencing during a trip, and allot of the spiritual disciplines lend themselves nicely in parallel to the psychedelic experience. So I can see how mushrooms could change a person who is already into spirituality in whatever form. -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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Rocky_raccoon, you might feel better if you spend enough time learning about all of the negative things that bother you.
It's usually like a bell curve. If you don't know anything, then it's unsettling, and then once you start learning and looking into stuff, it really gets unsettling the more you find out, but after you have looked enough into everything, then it gets much easier to not be so uneasy about everything going on. For one, it forces you to make up your mind and make the hard judgements to settle how you feel about a thing. And for another, you realize that allot of it is just how it's always been, or allot of it is bullshit that is just being made up or spun into something that it really isn't. But once you know enough to be able to make a judgement on something, and feel confident in where you stand on an issue, based on actually understanding all aspects and points of view, then you are able to make peace with it. It's different than being ignorant, or indifferent. It's actually feeling comfort in mastering the problem in your own understanding. Not saying you don't do that already, but the world can be ugly until you are able to find a way to come to terms with it through seeing the whole picture and forming your own opinions on it. Even if you come to the decision to drop the bombs, at least you will feel like you have a plan and control over how to respond, rather than just feeling helpless and afraid, and confused or unsure. But that was just a side note. What I came to say was, my younger brother used to be extremely racist. I wasn't around so I don't know what influence he had to get that way and wasn't aware he felt that way. But he told me about it later when we got back in touch. It's strange, because no one in my family is racist, and we were taught not to be, plus my grandma would give us black baby dolls and stuff like that, just to teach us not to be. But somehow he ended up extremely racist, as I've been told, and he said psychedelics completely changed him. Unfortunately, he is now, anti racist just as bad, and has been known to knock more than one person out for acting racist in his company. So, I guess that's not too good ether, but what can you do. -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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Rocky_racoone, regarding your comment on the quote from shroomsandstuff, that it a big part of it.
We assume that we all can say what is real by the fact that other people agree it is real, but one of the ways shrooms change you is that they open your mind to breaking the notions you have created in your mind. Some could say that they make you loose your mind, and some could say that you are crazy and they make you not crazy anymore. You assume that others are seeing the things you see in the same way as you do and that proves that they are reality, but in truth, other people don't see things at all the same as each other and that is the evidence that nothing is real. That's one of the main reasons that shrooms are good medicine for people having problems dealing with life. I know from my own personal experience with shrooms, that how you so strongly believe everything to be, can completely be found to be just a creation of your own mind. They do change you, but they change you by letting you descover that the world you created, or really, how you view the world, was crazy to begin with. It seems to yourself like you might have lost your mind at first, but when you find it, I think that most people come through it with a more accurate way of seeing the world and reality. Kinda like my brother. Who knows what ideas or points of view made him have such a strong belief that would make him racist, but I'm sure it was his reality and to him, that was how the world was and everyone else could see the world the same as him if they wanted. But in truth, no one sees the world correctly as how it truly is because we are all looking at it through different filters that our minds create. I think mushrooms get rid of the filters, or at least soften them long enough so you can be free of them long enough to create new, and I would say, more accurate filters. That's why so many have such good results from them. They take you out of your own crazy mind, and give you the option to change it if you want to. I don't look at things at all like I used to, but I think I see them more accurately now. It's the same for all of us. We don't see reality the same, and if you could take the filters out of one person's brain and put them into yours, then even though we assume that we all are looking at the same thing, then you would see that they don't see it the same as you do at all. You can put a hillbilly in trump Tower and he will see the world like a hillbilly in trump Tower, but if you put Donald trump's filters in his brain, then it would look very different when looking through those glasses. The person and place haven't changed, only how someone sees it has. Nurture is much more powerful than nature, and I believe that we are all just prisoners in our own creation. LSD is the key....... hippies -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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Many of us are geared towards always experiencing the unknown, or try to figure out something we don't understand.
We spend so much time learning and working out problems, and we injoy it. The next moment is always a treat that we are looking forward to, because it reveling the unknown. Just like how you can't wait to turn the page and see what comes next, or how you are so curious of how the movie will end and what is going to happen next. One could say that this is the greatest pleasure about life, just looking forward to what will come in the next moment, or even imagining the future, and how this simple thing can make us feel good. Just waiting for what comes next makes us happy. So it's no wonder that we love the trip so much, and we love trying to untangle the mystery, even if we have to believe the impossible just to get the joy of contemplating the possibilities. Novelty is a gift to us, and it's what we spend most of our lives seeking from one moment to the next, and one idea or understanding to the next, and that is important for us to do, in order to build a map of reality in our minds. The map is always expanding and being tested and corrected, so of course mushrooms are going to change you, because they add so much to the map, and they add it because they offer novelty and allow you to find the next moment to be a place you could hardly dream of or imagine, and also they give you so many new mysteries to unravel about yourself, the nature of reality, and the greatly expanded possibilities of the unknown. What a strange new realm to add to the map you are creating of reality with every new moment and piece of information. Moments leave the realms that lie forward in time, and becomes the realm that is you and all you have seen and collected to yourself. Of course mushrooms change you. How could they not? -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime. Edited by Sub-Easy (12/29/22 05:43 PM)
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Quote: -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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Quote: -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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Quote: -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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slowly dying since birth Registered: 04/23/21 Posts: 1,371 Loc: USA NC Last seen: 1 month, 7 days |
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Quote: I'm good with this interpretation. Maybe a slight divergence in agreement on semantics. But very beautifully presented. It's a shame how lacking my associates in science education was. Fortunately I love reading textbooks cover to cover and absorb them like a sponge, so I went much further than the assigned reading and finished additional textbooks beyond the class syllabus. A&P one and two textbooks have very limited coverage of the brain's A&P Second year psychology and chemistry also is hardly more than an introduction. Fortunately, I've always enjoyed spending my days in the pages of textbooks and fiction. But there is so much to learn just to say you have scratched the surface. Especially when it comes to the study needed in relation to the op's question. College doesn't even start to unravel the partial picture of the world that we have available to us so far. It would take a tremendous amount of study just to start to understand even the little bit that we know in relation to the op's question. But I think you have a good way of looking at the subject. Lacking the massive curriculum anyone would need to really understand what was going on, I think you still have valid points. @ -------------------- Just take um like you get um. Those ephemeral spasms of infinity, in suspended animation, born across a boundless ether of existential misery aloft a revelry (of awe) for the abhorrently sublime.
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