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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff] * 2
    #28098467 - 12/15/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I went into my mushroom experimentation a wound up bundle of raw nerves. Medical PTSD, 2 near death experiences, coping with nerve damage and chronic pain, anxiety, depression, hyper vigilance, chronic insomnia. And more.

Now I’m totally chill, anxiety is completely gone. Depression is barely noticeable, my vigilance is gone, ptsd is gone, my insomnia is tremendously reduced and I’m off all my psych meds.

I’m grounded, centered, and more at ease in my body than I’ve ever been, and I’m 54.

Plus all the microdosing/Stamets stack I do between trips may be helping my neuropathy. I’ve been living with it for years. In the last year different aspects are complete gone and others are significantly improved.

I’m also in a region where decriminalization is happening at the town level, and I’m working with care providers, donating mushrooms to them at no charge for now to pay it all forward and be of service.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Blue Cthulhu] * 2
    #28108643 - 12/22/22 12:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I have seen an individual on here wanting volunteers for a study on microdoseing and gut health. I'm surprised that they weren't interested in me, but I never had a chance to tell them my experience with regular size dosing (I don't microdose)

I could be crazy and say that the little creatures in our guts are affected by the drug and maybe they are tripping or getting in touch with communication with a universal language that most living thing speak with. Like how trees speak with other trees through the fungus. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. (It's real PROVEN science)

Or there could be a simple explanation.

But I have always gotten low blood sugar my whole life.(not from pot. I don't drink or smoke pot, or do drugs) It's not very bad for your health, and is actually the only harmful thing that marijuana does to people, but is pretty harmless in itself. Most of you will be familiar with it if you smoke pot, (I've definitely done it a bit, but it's not for me) but the only part that is a little hard on your body over time is when you eat allot of sugar (because pot causes low blood sugar, so your body wants you to eat (the munchies)) and if you eat allot of sugar, it will cause a pike in your blood sugar, and it's the strong fluctuation that is hard on your body. But it's not that bad for you.

(Just low blood sugar from smoking pot will not hurt you as long as you don't eat allot of sugar and cause a rapid spike. It's the spike that is hard on the body. I don't want to give any wrong ideas about smoking pot)

Anyway, I have always gotten low blood sugar, and would wake up in the middle of the night and crave candy and stuff, and on a long day at work I wouldn't eat because it slows you down to eat while working and you also don't digest well when you are active. (It's all medical science if you don't know about what I'm talking about) so I would get disoriented and really irritable from low blood sugar.

I could recognize the symptoms easy, because it's been like that since I was at least a teen.

After the mushrooms, it INSTANTLY went away COMPLETELY, and has NEVER returned.

I also stopped eating sugar like I used to, but still do a little.

I don't know if I stopped craving sugar because my low blood sugar went away, or if my low blood sugar went away because I stopped eating allot of sugar and my body heald it's self.

But I don't think my body heald itself of whatever was causing the low blood sugar because it happened overnight.

It's much more likely that the mushrooms cured me in the most miraculous way, from my lifelong health issue.

Haven't had low blood sugar once in almost a year now. It used to be almost daily, and I haven't woken up in the middle of the night with a ravenous craving for sugar ether. That was at least a couple times a week, and I don't ever go to the kitchen in the middle of the night anymore.

It stopped, on the spot, the very day, the first time I did mushrooms.

You tell me!

So, obviously something is going on with that, and I'm surprised I haven't heard other stories about this.

Also, it made me want to eat more healthy anyway and helped me to be in better touch with my body and any health problems, and what might be causing them.

I've always liked to eat healthy, but now I crave healthy food and am turning off by unhealthy food and even smoking cigarettes, even though I'm still addicted.

It all happened overnight.

Anyone else have a real miracle happen as far as health.

Like instant change kind of thing?

I know they help with addiction, but I'm interested in things like instant curing of a health issue.

Miracle kind of stuff like I had.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff] * 1
    #28108074 - 12/21/22 10:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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They made me want to eat more mushrooms. :awesome:



Lol What is it about them that makes you want to keep tripping? Do you use them just for fun, or other purposes?




If I take psychedelics fairly regularly I don't get low and I don't fall into traps with other substances. It's a hell of a lot of fun for me though, even scary or difficult experiences I really enjoy.

It's been a very long time now I have been a convert. The darkest times in my life and the times I made the most mistakes were times when I wasn't touching psychedelics.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Blue Cthulhu] * 1
    #28108687 - 12/22/22 12:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I’ve been on the path of self improvement through sacrifice and discipline for years now. Meditation, reading, podcast, wake up early, regular exercise, healthy nutrition, limit alcohol, cold showers…. I’m already deeply spiritual. I already believe we’re spirit “driving” the body no different than we drive a car. 

Mushrooms blew this “knowing” up even more. It makes perfect sense to me how someone dying of cancer can gain acceptance and peace with the use of mushrooms. I see how people can be atheist and then “know” there’s a God after consuming mushrooms.

It’s changed the way I think and interact. I’m more productive, less procrastinating, less anxiety… it’s like I now see through all the BS illusion that is this world annd life even more so. I don’t get caught up in the illusions that people create and the games that people play (I stay off social media due to this). I more clearly realize what’s important and what’s not. I have a better understanding of time and patience. To not obsess over something that takes time. You can’t speed it up. And in that understanding I also realize the opposite. You can’t slow or reverse it either. Both are priceless understandings.

And like so many people say…. A lot of it I can’t put into words. Now I’ve only had my first trip in a very long time 6 days ago, and again just yesterday. But this feeling and knowing and experiencing is lasting I can tell. Many spiritual people will tell you once you understand or once you “know”…. Once something resonates with you and you just “know” like an intuition, you never go back. You can’t.

I plan to explore this much more deeply. Yesterdays experience was so deeply spiritual and almost as if downloading info into my subconscious mind. Felt incredibly ceremonial and uplifting. At one point as I sat in front of a mirror looking at myself the thought that came into my head was “I am a God.”

Hell if nothing else having such deep positive loving thoughts and feelings and emotions filled with deep intuitions of knowing and connecting, love and joy, that alone is highly beneficial. Whether it is or isn’t mystical or truly spiritual doesn’t matter. Incredibly mentally healthy either way.

If anything my sub conscious mind is polluted through 37yrs of life and I feel as if I’m beginning to clean it up.

I feel like I could go on and literally write a novel. At the same time I can’t find the words. There’s not words it’s another form we don’t use.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: PancyanterA] * 1
    #28108759 - 12/22/22 01:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

You said plenty brother (or sister).

I couldn't have said it better myself, and indeed I couldn't say it at all now.

I once understood what you said too, and held onto it for a good long time, but as time goes by, I've  forgotten that "truth ?"

I think you would be good at writing the novel, as you have done such a good job at articulating it here.

I'm sure many of us thought we could write a novel as the cosmic download was in progress, and even though I'm aware of thoughts sounding really good while you are high, and not so much after, I think that if you could give an accurate translation of the information, it would not be just addled jumbled nonsense.

If you are lucky enough to even remember the full experience, then it's still hard to hold onto it after a few months or so.

That's my reason for commenting.

Do you think that because you were already on the path of understanding your mind, and spiritual/meditation practices, that you were able to hold onto the lesson so well, or is it just that you tripped recently?

I remember that I once gave a very detailed trip report on here, and then two days later, or it might have been the next day, I gave the exact same trip report, but for two different trips

I had no idea I had done that, and only found out because I later came across my first trip report.

It freaked me out to see I had written the same thing, but I was describing two different trips, and after that I was able to remember my trips, and realize that I was experiencing a tremendous amount of things while tripping that I had no recollection of after.

Now, after realizing that, I can remember much more after the drug wears off.

For all I know, I still might be experiencing many things while tripping that I don't even know I am.

The strangest thing I think, is that you would think that I would remember writing the trip report the day before, because I was not tripping when I wrote it, but I had totally forgotten, and then wrote an identical report the next day, describing a totally different time tripping, and didn't even catch on until a few days later.

I had no idea I had done it, and I was sober both times.

It's very strange that I had the exact same trip, once on Saturday, and again on Sunday, but it's even stranger that I didn't know I had, even though I wrote a trip report for both times.

That realization really changed my trip game, and to this day, I still go to the same place in the beginning of my trips, and meet the same entities and I remember them, and they remember me, and we talk about things relating to the times before when I had met with them.

I even missed them for a while, and still do a lot, but I have forgotten much of what I learned.

Looks like you still remember.

I'm impressed.

P.s time is still not the same for me as it used to be.

I used to be able to get so much done in a day just a year ago, but now I'm still going at the same pace, but the time just runs past me and the day is over.

For some reason It doesn't seem to effect my reality because I still can pay rent, and get everything done that needs to get done, and no one is telling me to hurry up or that I'm not getting enough done in the day, but it's like, by the time I get my shoes on in the morning, it's already lunch time.

It's like the world's laws have changed but I'm the same.

You would think that people would notice that I'm coming into work and hour later and getting half as much done, but no one seems to notice or has ever said anything to me other than I'm doing a great job. It's like I'm the only one who noticed.

Also, I never know what day of the week it is, and I'll get up and wake everyone up for school or work and it's Saturday, or I'll think it's Friday and it's only Tuesday.

That happens all the time, and never did before mushrooms.

I think I may have lost a day while tripping, or repeated a day, and that explains the identical trip, and would also put me a day behind the original timeline.

But who the fuck knows?

It hasn't seemed to affect my life or others, so I guess it's cool.

Obviously, I'm of a right mind, and know those things are impossible, but I'm just saying what I've observed. Regardless of the fact that I know I can't believe any of it is true.

It doesn't really make any difference in my life though, and I don't really think about it, or do anything about it, so everything is as it should be, but I would say it seems a little strange.

I haven't noticed any other strange things like that, but I really have had some strange new developments when it comes to time.

I know that when I was a kid, an hour long meeting, or something like that, would feel like three hours, and also as we get older, time seems to speed up. That stuff is normal for everyone, but I definitely don't think it's normal for the day to go by so fast as it started to after I did mushrooms.

I kinda think of it like how a turtle can't see an eagle fly past because it's brain doesn't process things that fast, but a hawk will see everything in slow motion.

Maybe the timing in my brain got thrown off. But instead of processing stuff slow like a turtle, I actually process it much faster now (than before) and have actually excelled in my job and am much more looked at as the go to guy when it's time to figure something out.

It always blows my mind when the coustomer, the contractor, and my boss, turn and look at me to lay out the job and explain how it's all going to be designed. It was never like that before I did mushrooms, although I have always been able to picture the end result in my mind very quickly.

I keep telling them I'm just the plumber, but when I walk into an empty bathroom in a million dollar house and the coustomer only has a vision of what they want, but no one knows how to do it, so I get out the old tape measure, and start laying it out and going over a million options and what we have to do to make it work.

But they all seem really appreciative, and I only started to be able to do that after I did mushrooms.

Before that, I just did the water lines for five years, and didn't know anything else.

Less than a year later and I can do anything, and think circles around everyone.

Of course I always figured I could, but the mushrooms gave me the confidence to do it, and everyone just stepped out of my way.

I wondered my whole life why I was never allowed to be in charge, and couldn't understand what was so special about the leader, that everyone looked to him.

I think mushrooms just made me realize that people are full of shit, and none of them know anything, and that you just have to be a dick and take the lead and egnor their protests because they just act like they know everything but don't really know any more than you.

People will actually like you better if you are like that believe it or not.

I think it's because they trust you more when you are assertive rather than submissive and afraid of being confrontational.

I don't know.

All I know is that I tried really hard to be friendly and do what I thought would make people happy and I couldn't get anyone to include me, and now that I'm a dick, and do what I think is best, I can't get people to leave me the fuck alon, and everyone wants to be my buddy.

Go figure.

But you know that that is a very common example of how mushrooms work.

They make you fearless, and they help you cut through the bullshit and get to what is important in life and what are the true priorities.

They take you out of the mud that you have been taught to wallow in, and indeed have convinced yourself is your proper place in life, sloshing around in all the bullshit you have been told to believe about yourself, and playing the games others have taught you to play in order to scrape off a little from each other but never really stand on your own.

But be warned, that also comes with a whole other set of dangers.

You might be better off not knowing yourself, and just staying in the world you created to blind yourself from the truth, and continue to fulfill your role in someone else's games that they pay you so well to be a subordinate part of.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff] * 1
    #28111880 - 12/25/22 08:40 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Shroomsandstuff said:This is one of the things that worries me about trying mushrooms. I don't want to start believing in things in which I currently don't believe, as a result of hallucinations. It seems useful if one is near the end of his life, but that's not me.




Well…. What is God? Nobody knows and it’s deeply personal.

For example, the many Christians feeling that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin followed with burning in hell for eternity. Then there’s all kinds of homosexual Christians. 

My sister in law married her wife in a Christian ceremony. By her God Father who is a retired preacher, exiled from his church because he married a previous gay couple. And just saying, what he had to say was one of the most beautiful receptions I ever heard.

Clearly these people are worshipping totally different Gods. But they’re all Christians.

See what I’m trying to get at? I’m not necessarily a Christian. I will often say yes to avoid all this lol but I wouldn’t really say that I am. I typically say “God, The Universe, quantum field, energy…. whatever you want to call it. It doesn’t matter.”

I don’t think you’ll be telling the world to repent because Jesus is returning lol I just used that as an example. That I can totally see how one could have that transformation, and I have heard of it.

Personally I feel all major world religions are more so metaphors. Sometimes I wonder if Heaven and Hell is right here right now. And that God and Satan is internal.

Personal mysteries I like to ponder on sometimes. I always say I know I don’t know, and nobody does.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: LewDoja] * 1
    #28112217 - 12/25/22 04:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

WOW!!

Its been a trying journey.  I was introduced to P. Azurescens from the OR coast by my roomate when I attended The Art Institute of Seattle in 2001.  My roomate was a very good friend.  We grew up together in Eastern WA.  His brother was stationed in Seaside OR, and was serving in the Coast Gaurd.  He was given the mushroom knowledge by locals in the area.

I started with a handful of fresh mushrooms, and was very intrigued by the experience.

I soon became obsessed.  The mushrooms became a spiritual tool, and a fully mystical religious experience.  God.  The Exodus 'meal in the wilderness.'

In 2006 I heard a voice on 14g of cubes.  The female voice asked me, "Will you die for them to know, or will you keep a secret?"  I agreed to give my life having found the missing Holy Communion that was replaced/symbolized by the Church/Eucharist.  I fully believed that the Roman Catholic Church organized that the sacred mushroom was Satan, the Adversary.  The trick of the Devil.  The forbidden fruit.  To me the mushroom experience was the experience of Christ/Jesus (the holy!), and Lucifer/Satan (the demonic).  I became intensly judgmental of the Church's history, and prescence in the world.  I soon became fond of the Baphomet concept/symbol/reality of the Union of opposites.

When I gave my life I woke up mentally blank.  Reborn.  I felt intensly fagile.  I didn't remember I had a job to go to.  A man came to my door and was heard saying, "The sun/Son is going to come out soon..."  I was overcome with the recognition of my role.  I was to reveal the sacred mushroom to the masses.  LOL.  As I sat and talked I could feel the edge of the collective unconscious inching closer to me.  It even felt like I was going to be nabbed for revealing hidden knowledge to the unknowing masses...  As I ended my portrayal of Truth with, "Now you have to eat the Tale/tail!"  The surrounding collective mental space that I was now open to (Christ) burst into a chaos, and an oscillation.  The surrounding collective mind turned to me, and stuck to my body that was previously free.  Driven mad by the chaos that ensued I was taken to my parents house because the people that were with me didn't know what else to do.  I heard very loudly, "Suicide!!"  It scared me so much I ran out the door, and was later picked up by my brother.  I was taken to the psych ward at Memorial Hospital in Yakima, WA.

I felt very punished by the oppressive medication, and spent a couple weeks there very confused.  I felt betrayed by the God that I found.  I was ruled 'Gravely Disabled', and given the diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder.  Later, when I could finally process some of what happened I decided that this was a conspiracy against me to hide what had happened.  I got into Hero's Journey mythology and concluded that what I had gone through was a Spritual Emergency.  I was introduced to Stanislav Grof. 



I spent allot of time wishing that I had somehow stayed in Seattle.  I felt that I wouldn't have had to be medicated back under the propagandized delusion barrier, or what have you.  I felt robbed.  Like I was interupted and sabatoged.

I spent allot of time talking out loud to existence after that, and had several experiences of crossing over this barrier that is produced by medicating away the awakening.

Some time later, in 2010, I was joined with the experience of crossing THE BOUNDARY and revealing my message about the missing mushroom (it became an obsession also) and this time people revealed that they were on the other side of this barrier.  Naturally.  It was the mind of God, but each node a person!  ...with the ability to take flight and talk to me in voices.  They made my life very difficult.  The LDS attacked me claiming they were Lucifer rebelling against God/Heaven, and the Catholics attacked me as the people of the Church battling Satan.:lol:  They began pulling on the sky, and I relized that I was Ascended...  Up, from where they see me!  They still won't let go, and they try to climb over me to get above me.  They can't handle it, won't recognize me as a God or anything, and to this day are all able to hear my reality up above them.  I am made out of people.  People are attatched to my body and mind like rays of the sun sticking out of me.  I think I'm Aquarius.:ifyoucanawe:



Blessed are the fornicates!


Blessed are the rich!


Blessed are the idiots!


Blessed are the gluttonous!


I'm permamently open to them.  They still won't come forward to talk to me.  Its all still considered Schizophrenia.  I'm actually diagnosed Paranoid Schizophrenic, or have been for reporting that people at the churches are/were after me!  I have fun with it.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28112555 - 12/26/22 01:35 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Thanks!  That's good to hear.:thumbup:


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: rocky_raccoon] * 1
    #28115297 - 12/28/22 03:58 PM (1 year, 30 days ago)

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Some posts here get me really concerned if I should continue taking mushrooms. Completely losing touch with reality isn't one of my life goals.:uhoh:




After smoking DMT a few times back to back since my last reply…. Wtf is reality? Are you losing touch or are you gaining a new perspective? Who regulates the response/experience and determines what is real or not, in touch out of touch, etc….?

I have zero fear of literally going crazy. I’m happily married with 3 children and a business owner. My wife tolerates my attempts to explain what happened… It expands consciousness in my experience. I now have the curiosity of a cat times 100.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28117397 - 12/30/22 11:43 AM (1 year, 28 days ago)

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It is easy to prove that we see the world as it is. Also that we perceive  the real world the same as others unless you have a mental or a physical disorder.




I think I agree with pretty much everything you said except this Kiwi89. It certainly isn’t easy to prove this, and currently no one has proven this, in fact I think it would be more accurate to suggest science has proven the opposite, that we don’t see the world as it truly is. Instead, we do see the world through interpretation machines that have evolved to interpret certain stimuli in certain ways. Ways in which make it easier for us to survive on the African savanna.




In my previous example about our perception of red bus on route 6. We can measure a light wave that we call red. We know that we can produce a paint that will be red. So if we paint that bus red if our cones in our eyes are functioning correctly we will see red. I can not recall a scientific experiment that proves that our interpretation of red is incorrect. 

Our interpretation of the world may be limited by our data receptors, I do not believe that science has proven that that the data is not real or is another form. 

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I think it’s also very plausible that we all have completely different conscious experiences of the same stimuli, but I wouldn’t bet on it.




If we were to take ten people and use a needle to pierce the skin on their right index finger, unless they have some nerve damage I am sure that all would agree that it produces a painful experience. Sure the degree of pain may be evaluated differently.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: doolhoofd] * 1
    #28117877 - 12/30/22 06:52 PM (1 year, 28 days ago)

Again, I agree with you Kiwi89. But I think I’m making a slightly separate point.
There is no correct or incorrect experience (I’m using the word experience here in place of interpretation, because I think it’s a much better fit) of the part of the visible spectrum that we call “red”.
We don’t experience red as a wavelength, we experience it as a colour. Our rods and cones are the instruments our brain uses to detect this particular wavelength, but then this data is interpreted in our brains and what follows is the experience of red.

So my point was; we may very well all experience something different when we see red, but because our experience of that colour has always been the same, and we’ve learned to call it “red”, we can all agree only on the fact that we assign the noun “red” to that particular experience.

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I do not believe that science has proven that the data is not real or is another form.




Maybe proven was too strong a word, but I do believe science points us firmly in the direction of -> Our sense interpreting/experiencing machines in our skulls aren’t perceiving nature as it truly is at the base level. I definitely lean towards thinking that Donald Hoffman’s Interface theory has some truth in it.

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If we were to take ten people and use a needle to pierce the skin on their right index finger, unless they have some nerve damage I am sure that all would agree that it produces a painful experience.




We can agree on that, but this is the same problem as the colour experience. How do we know that everyone’s experience of pain is the same?
We can all agree that we don’t like painful experiences, and that it’s best to avoid them. This provides a massive evolutionary advantage.
What we haven’t been able to figure out though, is how to tell what an individual’s experience of pain is actually like to them. They’ll be able to describe it using language and say it “burns”, or it “stings”, or it “aches”, but those are all words we’ve taught children to assign to those experiences, the same as we teach people to assign the word “red” to an experience of colour.

Having said all that though, if we could one day figure out a way of directly comparing experiences, I would not at all be surprised if we all had much the same experiences to the same stimuli. We all share the same genetics for the most part after all, and our brains all seem to function in pretty much the same way generally speaking.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: doolhoofd] * 1
    #28117878 - 12/30/22 06:52 PM (1 year, 28 days ago)

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Here's a great TED-Talk that asks the question: "Do we see reality as it is?"
(Spoiler alert: the above statement by Bardy turns out to be correct.)




There are a couple talks that I have seen like this about. It is important to note that he is saying, we thought the earth was flat until we could prove that it was not. He is putting forward a theory of his but providing no proof. He does not know what this underlying structure of reality is but he personally believes that it is there. 

His example of the Jewel beetle used as an example of natural selection not favoring seeing reality. This is a example of Supernormal stimulus. This is not an example of evolution favoring fitness but rather an example of a new stimulus eliciting  a stronger response.     

His argument is not that the train or red tomato do not  exist but that the underlying structure may be different than we actually see.

This is similar to saying the the colour red is not actual red but photons scattered by the matter light interacts with. Therefore red is really different than we are able to observe. This does not alter the fact that we see it as red, it is measurable. So is the train squashing you, it does not matter that it may be a representation of a system we can not observe because our sensors are not attuned for that fine data point, it is still a train.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28117911 - 12/30/22 07:17 PM (1 year, 28 days ago)

And yeah, the whole idea I think is that evolution has given us the ability to perceive reality, just close enough to its true nature, for us to be able to survive in the environment we evolved in.

So our perceptions of the world are not true, but they are close enough so that we avoid being squashed by trains :lol:

Thanks doolhoofd! I will check that out later 😊


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How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you?
    #28098093 - 12/14/22 11:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Simple question... Has your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms changed you, and if so, in what way(s)?

This can include changes in the way you think, feel, act, etc..

Have you noticed any personality changes?

Have you changed your mind about any issues, be they political, religious, spiritual, etc?

Have you noticed that any changes have been long lasting, or have they all been relatively short lived?

For the purpose of this thread...
short term - 1 day to 6 months
long term - >6 months to a 5 years
permanent - >5 years without noticeable reversal

Do you feel like your consumption of psilocybin mushrooms has changed you?
You may choose only one


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Edited by Shroomsandstuff (12/15/22 08:42 AM)


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098178 - 12/15/22 01:25 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It would be hard to say if any benefits are permanent because those benefits might taper off in the future. But I find regularly tripping does keep all those benefits 'topped up' to the levels you want them.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098201 - 12/15/22 02:39 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Most of what you have listed above would change naturally over time for people, I would hope so anyway. As we experience life we tend to see the world differently. The more you live the more you change, seeing and experiencing the world outside your parents bubble opens the mind.  The only people I imagine not growing and changing are people trapped in a cult.

Life shapes the nature of your psychedelic experiences.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #28098267 - 12/15/22 05:01 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

No one has any idea how much mushrooms have done anything for them because no one has a control study on themself. It's all anecdotal. I cannot see or experience my life without mushrooms. If it's anecdotal then it's not much better than a placebo in regards to claiming it did anything for you. Enjoy it all you want but people need to realize these substances aren't as special as they want to believe. I love psychedelics. But they're more of a key than a door. I can cut new keys if I want, or pick the stupid thing open. We do the work not mushrooms.


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #28098367 - 12/15/22 07:57 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

While I agree that we do the work, not the mushrooms, my impression is that we can do a lot more work a lot faster with the mushrooms. I have only been using them for a year and I am a very different person than before. In almost universally positive ways. My friends notice it. My family notice it, my therapist graduated me (at least for now) because of how far I was able to come, my colleagues notice it, my gf totally sees it. And not all of them know about the mushrooms. And I see it doing the same for others I know using mushrooms for growth and healing.


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    #28098396 - 12/15/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change


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Re: How have psilocybin mushrooms changed you? [Re: Grungeman17]
    #28098427 - 12/15/22 09:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Kmacmo said:
It would be hard to say if any benefits are permanent because those benefits might taper off in the future. But I find regularly tripping does keep all those benefits 'topped up' to the levels you want them.



This is true. Good point. I edited the OP for a bit of clarification. I just needed a distinction between long term and long term w/ noticeable reversal (needing to be topped off).

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Kiwi89 said:
Most of what you have listed above would change naturally over time for people, I would hope so anyway. As we experience life we tend to see the world differently. The more you live the more you change, seeing and experiencing the world outside your parents bubble opens the mind.  The only people I imagine not growing and changing are people trapped in a cult.

Life shapes the nature of your psychedelic experiences.



That's true, some of those things do tend to change, over the course of one's life, however those changes usually seem to be somewhat gradual, as opposed to changing, from one day to the next (i.e. going from being an atheist to being religious, or from believing that death is the end of the line to believing that we just end up in some other dimension).

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larry.fisherman said:
No one has any idea how much mushrooms have done anything for them because no one has a control study on themself. It's all anecdotal. I cannot see or experience my life without mushrooms. If it's anecdotal then it's not much better than a placebo in regards to claiming it did anything for you. Enjoy it all you want but people need to realize these substances aren't as special as they want to believe. I love psychedelics. But they're more of a key than a door. I can cut new keys if I want, or pick the stupid thing open. We do the work not mushrooms.



Anecdotes are exactly what I'm asking for. There are already some studies about how psilocybin affects people, and there are likely going to be many more conducted in the coming years. For instance, it has been shown, that a psilocybin trip can affect one's personality scores on the Big Five Aspects Scale, which tend to otherwise remain relatively stable, over the course of one's adult life.
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In participants who had mystical experiences during their psilocybin session, Openness remained significantly higher than baseline more than 1 year after the session. The findings suggest a specific role for psilocybin and mystical-type experiences in adult personality change.



It has also been shown that a psilocybin trip can get a large percentage of people to quit smoking, which is pretty fascinating.

Both of those changes would be identifiable by a single person, experimenting on himself. While causation would be difficult to prove, I'd think that one could make a relatively accurate, educated guess, and if multiple people come to the same conclusions, it would definitely be worth considering, IMO.

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While I agree that we do the work, not the mushrooms, my impression is that we can do a lot more work a lot faster with the mushrooms. I have only been using them for a year and I am a very different person than before. In almost universally positive ways. My friends notice it. My family notice it, my therapist graduated me (at least for now) because of how far I was able to come, my colleagues notice it, my gf totally sees it. And not all of them know about the mushrooms. And I see it doing the same for others I know using mushrooms for growth and healing.



That's great to hear! In what ways do you feel like you have been able to improve, through your use of mushrooms?

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Grungeman17 said:
I've been struck by an 18 wheeler ome to some shit job as a 25 yr old and its permanantly altered my life. Good and bad. Mushrooms helpped me take the good with the bad, on everything. Mushrooms arnt a magic bullet, you really have to focus and intend to use the lessons and feelings in the sober world, but it has gearth to breaking down some barriers. Don't just drop the knowledge when the juice wears off. With that all said... I have geared my more recent psychadelic studies twards performance enhancements. Like physical and mental obviously but im focusing on more of the phyical right now. Lsd and working out...

Shit fucking works...

You can get one off that way on mushrooms too.

"I learned from it what I needed"

No you didn't it has more to offer if you want it. I believe shrooms and lsd are a major spark or kickstart for somebody that otherwise has problems get themselves to the starting line on physical health and performance.

So yeah im gonna go with long term positive change



How often do you use mushrooms? Do you find that the positive effects of each dose taper off, over time, requiring another session, or do they feel like they are permanent and that you just continue to make more progress with each new trip?


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