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#28079497 - 12/02/22 12:07 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello, I've been micro-dosing with what I grew last year for the first time through PF Tek. I grew, dehydrated, and ground them up into capsules and put them in a small mason jar in the freezer. I have about 29 capsules left which I've been slowly micro-dosing 5 on 2 off. So this is what I've been doing: I don't weight it because the scale I have sucks. I take some apple sauce and put the dried mushroom in there and stir it up. (My theory is that the mushrooms must need to plump up from their dried state.
Then I add Paul Stamets brand lions mane powder to it and stir it up. I haven't tried the Niacin yet. (Does that make the difference?) I take it on an empty stomach in the morning and write my intentions for the day in a journal. Can someone give me some advice as to how to better execute my process. I want this to work. I cannot take anti-depressants, they make me worse.
I know everyone is different, but how long before I notice something? Are the PF Tek mushroom weaker than say other methods of growing?
Sorry for such a long post. I really appreciate any help.
My best to all of you!
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Do you FEEL any diff after eating the micro dose?
Ime depression is best cured by eliminating all addictions and facing the emotions you’ve been suppressing with addiction/s. However micro dosing is great and helps
Micro dosing didn’t work for me unless I felt it after eating it. Kinda like a pain pill relieving pain you know when it works.. I would get a good mood lift and energy boost from the micro dose when I ate enough
Have you eaten more than .5g-1g before and know what it feels like?
I suggest experimenting with the dose a bit until you feel something
Weed can easily be an addiction too btw..
For me I need .3g-.5g of normal cubes for a microdose and I liked doing it every day myself
Edited by Raven44 (12/02/22 02:49 PM)
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28080132 - 12/02/22 06:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't felt different (better) yet. But today I started to take more and want to find the threshold where I do. I don't want to trip, but maybe on the cusp...
I haven't even come close to those doses you mentioned.
I have no addictions to anything, do not smoke pot or drink etc.
Do you think that taking it with applesauce is okay? Don't they have to plump from their dry state to activate? Or maybe they automatically do in your stomach....
Do you do them with lions mane and the Niacin (the Stamets Stack?
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I never used lions mane also but I’m sure it’s great but not needed
Why the aversion to a trip worth dose?? Maybe it’s what you need
Apple sauce is fine. But not needed I just break a piece off and eat it I don’t bother powdering.
Try a little more each day. Like try so much today ... say .3grams today
If the .3 didn’t work as you’d like, tomorrow try .4.
Buuut, if the .3 didn’t work do not try to take more the same day and see if you feel it. If you eat .3 today and don’t feel anything then eat another .1 same day to equal a total of .4..... that will not be the same as eating .4 all at once is the point I’m making
Are you addicted to coffee? A person like an ex bf or something? Have you asked yourself why your depressed? Mushrooms aren’t a “cure” for depression they will give you a new perspective tho which can heal the depression by changing your perspective and basically making you way more optimistic. But you have to do the work still of overcoming the old thought patterns and making use of the new perspectives
Ultimately you are what heals your depression not the mushrooms
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28081230 - 12/03/22 11:59 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, I agree. I am doing the work, meditation, journaling, therapy etc. I have been taking much more than I have. I will probably run out at this rate in a few months. I live in a cold climate and I'm not sure how growing them in the winter will work. I don't think it will get hot enough in my cupboard to grow. I think they will just go dormant.
But, in the spring I will grow like mad to give me a consistent supply. If I run out sooner, I will at least attempt it. Wish I lived in Colorado or could find a mentor to guide me how to have a successful harvest in the winter. The book I have say's don't bother trying to grow in the winter. This is from The Psilocybin Bible.
If I take enough to get to the cusp of a trip, what are the signs?
Thanks for all your input! Best
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Meditate on why your depressed... when did it start..
You didn’t answer if your addicted to anything else like coffee or a person maybe but that’s ok
Everyone here grows in the winter fuck that book if it says not to...
Your in the right place to find a mentor. There’s handfuls of people who will help you grow in the winter and learn what you need to. All the information is here already it’s super easy especially if you’ve done it before
I would describe a microdose as the cusp of a trip I guess...for me it’s all in the head my mood changes and my thoughts change. You will feel different in a good way kinda like when you drink a beer or two. I mean it’s not like alcohol at all but you’ll know when that beer hits you...
It’s different for everyone tho how the mushrooms effect their senses.. a one gram trip is not a lot tho for most people. Some people a gram can be a lot but most likely it won’t be for you
Your scared of the mushrooms. It shows... there’s nothing to be afraid of.. I suggest you eat a half gram or a gram and experience what they feel like yourself so you don’t need to wonder. It will likely be one of the best nights of your life. Ask them mushrooms to help you heal whatever it is that needs healed to cure your depression
Then keep micro dosing after the trip 
The signs are an endorphin release in the brain. After all how are we gonna heal depression without releasing endorphins that help you feel good and lift you up thru the day
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28081384 - 12/03/22 01:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Are the PF Tek mushroom weaker than say other methods of growing?
Spawing to sterilized horse manure will yield more potent and substantial fruits! Cheers! I too am micro-dosing although I take .5-1g every third day roughly. I have noticed that I feel more joy daily. The mushrooms have been having a pretty remarkable antidepressant effect. I too recommend more...
Peace.
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No Pf tek aren’t weaker
I prefer to use coco coir and Verm
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28082937 - 12/04/22 11:38 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for sharing your experience!
Two things I didn’t pick up in your posts - what do you think your dose is - how long have you been microdosing
You can calculate dosage indirectly: - Weigh and grind an amount you are reasonably confident your scale can measure. - Weigh a bunch of empty capsules and figure out the weight of one. - Fill as many capsules as you can with your powder. Only full capsules, no partials. - Weigh the filled capsules, figure the weight of one, subtract the weight of the capsule. That’s the approximate dose.
I am a less-is-more type. For microdosing I am aligned with Fadiman’s definition: Subclinical. If you can feel it it’s not a microdose. That would be, strictly by for the sake of clarity, a mini dose. If I take more than 0.05g (half of a tenth of a gram) of good ‘ol cubes I feel a fizzled layer of distraction that is not helpful. Yet at that low dose every 3rd day the benefits become apparent after only a couple of weeks.
It’s subtle and it takes time. A month. More. For me, and is widely reported, I start to notice that things that usually bother you pass unnoticed. Distractions don’t distract. Decisions come more easily and with confidence. Difficult tasks usually procrastinated are accomplished like a warm knife through butter.
Raven44’s suggestions regarding depression are spot on. In the name of self improvement do your best to reduce, limit, and end distractive and destructive behaviors. Less TV or gaming, more time outside. Physical activity is an amazing neuromodulator. And toxic relationships never help one feel better.
Every little thing helps. Doing everything, quickly, perfectly, is not the point or even possible. Starting is the most important thing snd you’ve already done that. Now keep going, a little every day.
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Thank you so much for your response!! Very helpful!
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28085901 - 12/06/22 11:31 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hi, thank you all for your responses. I really appreciate this community!
I am not addicted to anything. I don't even drink coffee and I never drink alcohol, never have. No drug history at all. I do have childhood trauma, family history of depression and anxiety. I do not have Bi-Polar disorder. I have depression and anxiety, a touch of OCD more or less. But, the anxiety and depression is very persistent. I cannot take any sort of psych meds as they make me worse. But, generally if the medication is from a natural source, herbs etc. my body welcomes it. It's the synthetic crap that I am very sensitive to. I am married to a wonderful supportive man. I am a bit isolated, not many friends and family. Still grieving the death of my parents and two significant friends over the past 5 years, but I am trying to stay busy, taking some classes. I write, so I write poetry and journal. I would still say I'm depressed more or less all the time. But If you met me you'd never know it. I am also introverted, not very social naturally, which if not good for depression. I also , play the ukulele, write songs. I am actively working on those deficits in my life.
I have been micro-dosing for 2 weeks now but I have increased the dosage a bit. My scale is awful, It doesn't want to register, even after I calibrate it. Last it showed 0.3 is what I was taking for about a week. I've been taking more (probably double that) and guessing for a bout a week. I am a 112 pound female. I have noticed the anxiety is better with the new dose. I'm doing 5 on 2 off.
I'm glad to hear that about the winter growing! So how do I keep the mason jars warm enough if it's freezing out. I try to keep the house warm, but not roasting. Oil is crazy expensive here. Won't they just go dormant in the fruiting chamber if it doesn't get over 70 degrees? Granted the chamber may be more humid with the spritzing everyday. Still not optimal... Any advice to keep them warmer that's not too complicated?
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TUB IN TUB! I built one when I was growing back in college... They work very well!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21064526
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They’ll tolerate 60 degrees or so I’m sure your space is that warm
Depression is rampant due to lack of culture. Most people fall into addicts category around here lol. Interesting your not one. Regardless depression is from lack of bliss. Culture teaches children how to create their own bliss. Sacred dance, sacred gymnastics, meditation, ceremony, are all ways to make bliss. Music also.
So doing drugs is a “wrong turn down the right road” because everyone is attracted to bliss giving substances like alcohol and drugs but the addiction to a drug can lead to lots of negatives.
Your already into music so that’s good. Find your passion in music maybe? Follow your bliss they say... everyone and everything needs a regular bliss practice of some sort
Maybe talk to some energetic healers about the trauma and depression. Andrew Bartzis and Eric Raines are great
Did the depression start at a certain time? Wish u the best
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Re: Micro dosing [Re: Raven44]
#28091894 - 12/10/22 01:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply!! I agree with you about culture being a huge influence in regard to depression. First thing that came to mind when I read your response was Native American culture.
We are taught to look outside of ourselves to find bliss... We do it all wrong in our capitalist society.
I had a pretty rough childhood. Invalidating environment, lack of affection, abuse... but I've come a long way.
Thanks again for your comment!
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Hey there. So, a few things I want to say here:
- You should get a good scale that can weigh the shrooms. This is a very important step in all of this.
- You don't need to "plump up" the dried shrooms at all. You can simply consume them as is.
- You could start feeling effects from microdosing as soon as your first dose. Or it might take a couple of weeks. Depends on the person. Depends on the dose.
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Thank you for your response!
Any suggestions on size/brand of scale. The one I bought on Amazon was highly rated, but it was only about $20. So maybe I need something more sensitive. It doesn't want to register small amounts of the dried mushrooms. It only registers when I add too much....
Thanks so much!
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I think I have this one, though the price may have gone up since I bought it: https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM
You could maybe find it for cheaper if you look around. That one weighs to the 0.001g, so milligrams. So it would be very good for weighing shrooms in personal amounts. It's max weight is 20g.
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