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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137611 - 01/13/23 07:41 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Im sorry but i still got the text books that are valid in my uni and also the books or mr, Rabbit and Paul Stamets wich are valid (Paul Stamets has some OUTDATED info but thats understandable). I also always double check the information i give simply because self doubt is healthy. So when i give you information and you say its "old" or "wrong" it means nothing to me and nothing to those who actually make a living out of mushrooms. Here is some meta criticism for you. Your way of using terms and wording gives you out as something that i detest from the bottom of my heart. Old info is not outdated info. The meaning of gravity doesnt change in our world just by re-measuring it in a different decade. Have fun eating your dirty drugs. I just hope that you get better at growing them.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137614 - 01/13/23 07:52 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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DERRAYLD
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137625 - 01/13/23 08:18 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: So you make a claim without the feel of responsibility to back your words. A pity. Trolling is not so cool as you think. Scientific arguments have a structure wich you do not respect.
No, I won't respond to your bait comments or negativity.
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Thugnar
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Oops sorry. I have to admit that i did give some bad advice when i said "without strong fanning". The fact is that you shouldnt need to fan at all. Mushrooms thrive in ambient conditions and if you give it some thought, you can design a grow space so the FAE(frequent air exchange) happens naturally. Fruiting produces lots of c02 so in the summer when its hard to keep things cool enough, i keep the window open in the room without any strong air currents hitting the grow space. In addition misting by hand exchanges the air also. If you fan by hand (mechanical air exchange) then you introduce a shit ton of contaminants in the grow area also at the same time. If you doubt my words then come collect my left nut if you find a professor who says im wrong. I've been told its delicious.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137678 - 01/13/23 09:04 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: Oops sorry. I have to admit that i did give some bad advice when i said "without strong fanning". The fact is that you shouldnt need to fan at all. Mushrooms thrive in ambient conditions and if you give it some thought, you can design a grow space so the FAE(frequent air exchange) happens naturally. Fruiting produces lots of c02 so in the summer when its hard to keep things cool enough, i keep the window open in the room without any strong air currents hitting the grow space. In addition misting by hand exchanges the air also. If you fan by hand (mechanical air exchange) then you introduce a shit ton of contaminants in the grow area also at the same time. If you doubt my words then come collect my left nut if you find a professor who says im wrong. I've been told its delicious.
Did you spend this time reading more current threads and then come back?
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137694 - 01/13/23 09:17 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Fanning introduces contamination?
We must go find a professor to tell us that fanning introduces contamination?
Have you grown mushrooms before because now I am making a direct statement regarding your competence based on your statements here.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD] 4
#28137712 - 01/13/23 09:26 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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well this thread shit the bed... god.
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BeefSupremeJr said: well this thread shit the bed... god.
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bakedbeings
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hello thugnar, welcome to the shroomery
over the past several years it has been observed frequently and without exception that FAE benefits colonization. many members including myself have done side by side comparisons and the difference is notable. i dont have a peer reviewed study to link to but you are welcome to search this site or just try it yourself
since spawning to bulk happens with non-sterile surfaces in open air, opening your tub during colonization or leaving unfiltered holes does not increase the risk of contamination. there are already mold spores and bacteria in your tub when you close it after spawning
these are relatively recent additions to the canon. no shame in not being aware, but the way you react to people who are trying to help you could use some work
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28137782 - 01/13/23 10:43 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hello. Thanks, nice to see sensible articulation. Thank you for that. Ive been reading this forum for 12 years and im sorry to say that youre wrong. FAE is introduced when you want to initiate pinning. If you do things perfect then the substrate will be 100%colonized in 4-7 days. This time window requires no FAE and only gas exchange that happens trough the imperfect lid of the box. Opening it and lowering the co2 lvl will slow down the colonization and can even induce pinning. Fanning is a poor method to make up the mistakes youve done designing the grow space. I understand that sometimes its all you got but still... Its in no way optimal.
Edit: I would have to add that the mistakes seen here are the same that mr. Rabbit scolded people for a decade. Nothing new here.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
Edited by Thugnar (01/13/23 10:45 AM)
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137786 - 01/13/23 10:46 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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You gave him all that baked just to get that response
Edited by Screwup (01/13/23 10:50 AM)
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137812 - 01/13/23 11:09 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Fae is not introduced when you want to initiate pinning, in fact we don't even initiate pinning; everything is spawned to fruiting conditions from day one.
Anyway.... fighting on the internet... pointless.
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bakedbeings
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28137848 - 01/13/23 11:43 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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am i high or did this guy post yesterday about doing agar for the first time? and now hes here schooling DERRAYLD on how to grow cubes? i love this place <3
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28137851 - 01/13/23 11:44 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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bakedbeings said: hello thugnar, welcome to the shroomery
over the past several years it has been observed frequently and without exception that FAE benefits colonization. many members including myself have done side by side comparisons and the difference is notable. i dont have a peer reviewed study to link to but you are welcome to search this site or just try it yourself
since spawning to bulk happens with non-sterile surfaces in open air, opening your tub during colonization or leaving unfiltered holes does not increase the risk of contamination. there are already mold spores and bacteria in your tub when you close it after spawning
these are relatively recent additions to the canon. no shame in not being aware, but the way you react to people who are trying to help you could use some work
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DERRAYLD said: Fae is not introduced when you want to initiate pinning, in fact we don't even initiate pinning; everything is spawned to fruiting conditions from day one.
Anyway.... fighting on the internet... pointless.

I've never "initiated" pinning in my life and I've been doing this a long time. Had more canopies and pin forests than I can remember. I even do my tubs the old way with big 2" holes and one layer of mp take on them, set it and forget it till it needs harvest. G2G to dried fruit in 4-5 weeks lol
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: rumfor69] 1
#28137873 - 01/13/23 12:06 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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I've never "initiated" pinning in my life
its all in the hips
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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: rumfor69]
#28137905 - 01/13/23 12:37 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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I havent spoken anything about having to initiating anything. Its part of a technique. I dont understand what youre saying. As for my first grow log and agar work... I posted that only to get tips for isolating since a friend of mine used to do it for me when working in the kitchens and has since passed. Im fully aware of the required process. Just havent done it and brought my process here on the testing grounds for synergy advantages.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar] 2
#28137914 - 01/13/23 12:45 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: I havent spoken anything about having to initiating anything.
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Thugnar said: FAE is introduced when you want to initiate pinning.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28137939 - 01/13/23 01:08 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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This is insane. I repeat. I didnt say anything about HAVING TO INITIATE PINNING. The strongest pinning triggers for p.cubensis are indirect sunlight and FAE wich lowers the co2 levels above the substrate. If you want me to use the search engine *for you* then i quess i have to and show you. But tomorrow because its fridayyyy. 
Edit: In the meantime if youre really bored then you can always use the engine yourself. Search posts written by Anno, roadkill or Rogerrabit. A few other worth to mention in this context but cant remember the profile names right now. Use proper search words like "pasteurization of bulk substrate". Rogerrabbit also has great insight in the pinning triggers of mushroom mycellium and also the ambient state of the grow space. Its all valid information and they teach some of that stuff at my uni.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
Edited by Thugnar (01/13/23 01:55 PM)
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137948 - 01/13/23 01:14 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Sigh
Sunlight and fae?
We colonize our substrates and fruit in indirect sunlight providing fae at all times, those are not pinning triggers.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#28137959 - 01/13/23 01:24 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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It’s a troll, no?
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