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rumfor69
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Keep an eye on em while they're being stored. If they start to get rubbery then they need dried more.
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DERRAYLD
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IllicitMango said: Alright, can I ask why though? Just curious.
Had them on tin foil in a baking tray in my toaster oven on lowest heat w door cracked.
Foil is like a pan, it will start to cook the mushrooms. Paper or cardboard heats up but also aids in drying.
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rumfor69
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28095456 - 12/13/22 04:53 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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IllicitMango
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So my other tub has a couple mushies growing. First flush from this tub was roughly 13 days ago. I didn't think it was going to give me more. 
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And, I started 12 half pint brf jars. Here's just a random few I pulled from the incubator to inspect.
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Thugnar
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Looks bad. Bacterial stress and you have indused pinning by lowering the CO2 lvls in the tub by general fuckery (opening the tub when its not ready and messing around it exchanging the air). This has induced premature pinning and at the same time you made the uncolonized substrate suspectible to trich contam cause the myc propably wont colonize anymore leaving the rest of the substrate availiable to contams. If you used only coir then you propably get a good amount of mushies though like it looks. Start giving fresh air without strong fanning when ever premature pinning starts. When you mist 3-5 times a day after full colonization, it usually changes the air enough in itself without the need to fan. Sorry to be a negative nelly but thats a dirty grow even though it gets you some nice mushies.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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DERRAYLD
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar] 2
#28137530 - 01/13/23 05:50 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Lots of old information in that post.
Exchanging air by opening a tub? And this causes pinning?
Lowering co2 induced pinning?
That's a general nope, yes the tubs are bacterial but the rest of your post isn't valid, fanning, misting 3- 4 times a day? This is not the early 2000s, methods have evolved.
Sorry to dump on your post but misinformation is stopped fast in pursuit of proper cultivation.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: rumfor69]
#28137545 - 01/13/23 06:06 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Lack of FAE does not cause overlay and overlay on cubensis mycellium is extremely rare. I bet my left nut that you or none of us in this thread have actually seen overlay on cubensis. FAE durinc colonization is BAD. Colonization reguires gas exchange not FAE. Reduced CO2 lvl is a strong pinning trigger wich stalls colonization of the substrate. Dont spout out bad info.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28137548 - 01/13/23 06:08 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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So youre saying that Paul Stamets and Mr. Rabbit here on shroomery is also wrong? And the THOUSANDS oF experiements made by credited mycologists are wrong? Lol. Ok. Have fun doing dirty half assed grows wich give you some drugs.
Edit: To be fair ill give you a chance to prove your point. Source please. A claim has been made of my competense so please deliver.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar] 1
#28137556 - 01/13/23 06:25 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Dirty halfed assed grows that give me drugs? You clearly know me well.
I won't even respond to this with a comment like that, I was fairly calm and did not attack you.
Also as a side note, I made no claim regarding your competence.
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Screwup
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137561 - 01/13/23 06:32 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: Lack of FAE does not cause overlay and overlay on cubensis mycellium is extremely rare. I bet my left nut that you or none of us in this thread have actually seen overlay on cubensis. FAE durinc colonization is BAD. Colonization reguires gas exchange not FAE. Reduced CO2 lvl is a strong pinning trigger wich stalls colonization of the substrate. Dont spout out bad info.
Is gas exchange not fresh air exchange? Does fresh air not come in once too much co2 is produced? I feel like you’re coming in too hot for a completely new person while being wrong and going against much longer standing members.
I’m thinking you are gonna end up being a troll tbh
Edited by Screwup (01/13/23 06:39 AM)
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137575 - 01/13/23 06:59 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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I feel like you’re coming in too hot for a completely new person while being wrong and going against much longer standing members.
Yeah, it's not constructive to attack the experts. Derry has been posting here since 2002 and, along with many others, has helped refine and improve the cultivation process significantly over the intervening decades. And he's polite.
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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137578 - 01/13/23 07:04 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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FAE stands for "frequent air exchange". Nothing to do with gas exchange. For example... If you fan by hand that is a mechanic action so by logic its called MECHANIC AIR EXCHANGE or MAE, not FAE. Colonization requires high co2 lvls and when giving FAE its impossible to maintain it properly. Ask any professor stage person this and he will give you the same answer.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Screwup
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137581 - 01/13/23 07:06 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: FAE stands for "frequent air exchange". Nothing to do with gas exchange. For example... If you fan by hand that is a mechanic action so by logic its called MECHANIC AIR EXCHANGE or MAE, not FAE. Colonization requires high co2 lvls and when giving FAE its impossible to maintain it properly. Ask any professor stage person this and he will give you the same answer.
Lol it stands for fresh air exchange which would exchange gases which oxygen and co2 are no?
One more post like that and I’ll be confident you’re a troll
Edited by Screwup (01/13/23 07:07 AM)
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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28137583 - 01/13/23 07:09 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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So you make a claim without the feel of responsibility to back your words. A pity. Trolling is not so cool as you think. Scientific arguments have a structure wich you do not respect.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137584 - 01/13/23 07:10 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: So you make a claim without the feel of responsibility to back your words. A pity. Trolling is not so cool as you think. Scientific arguments have a structure wich you do not respect.
Yeah you’re a troll. Made it to 14 posts though so good job
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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137590 - 01/13/23 07:12 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Here is some reference for you. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13056302#13056302
Its about how many times the air of your tub changes completely. I dont even understand what youre talking about co2 or "fresh air" (whatever that means) and ive got masters in biochemistry. Im also a chef and have grown gourmes professionally. Cubes are easy.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137592 - 01/13/23 07:16 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: Here is some reference for you. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13056302#13056302
Its about how many times the air of your tub changes completely. I dont even understand what youre talking about co2 or "fresh air" (whatever that means) and ive got masters in biochemistry. Im also a chef and have grown gourmes professionally. Cubes are easy.
12 year old post nice
Lol you dont even understand co2 or fresh air. You’re gonna do great here bro
Edited by Screwup (01/13/23 07:21 AM)
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Thugnar
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Screwup]
#28137597 - 01/13/23 07:23 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Ok... So it seems some people yelling from the sides need to be ignored. My bad for giving attention somewhere where irrelevance shines bright. TO THE POINT
As i said "i hate to be the negative nelly" AND as i said " you got some nice mushies". The thing just is that this isnt mycology. This is making some dirty drugs and pretending to learn a science. The bacterial stress is so visible to the eye that if i grew gourmes like this, i would get shut down by goverment. This is not mycology folks.
-------------------- Seems like 99% of people in shroomery mushcult use the Bucket Tek. I do not and for saying this they call me arrogant cause i dont have pictures of my own mushrooms here. The mycoforum of my country just got their proof of shroomerys hostility. I do like it here though becaus of the agar. The archives are valuable.
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Screwup
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Re: Is this looking ok so far? [Re: Thugnar]
#28137606 - 01/13/23 07:30 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thugnar said: Ok... So it seems some people yelling from the sides need to be ignored. My bad for giving attention somewhere where irrelevance shines bright. TO THE POINT
As i said "i hate to be the negative nelly" AND as i said " you got some nice mushies". The thing just is that this isnt mycology. This is making some dirty drugs and pretending to learn a science. The bacterial stress is so visible to the eye that if i grew gourmes like this, i would get shut down by goverment. This is not mycology folks.
No one’s arguing about it being bacterial…it’s everything else you’re wrong about.
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