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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28055057 - 11/16/22 07:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Polish president says weapon debris is likely Russian origin.  Russia disagrees.  Wonder who is more trustworthy.  Stable Genius posts the Russia talking point as if it is a fact...I know who I believe
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There are now three independent “US officials” sources telling the Daily Beast that the missiles that hit Poland were Ukrainian, and not Russian.

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1592754953109512192?s=46&t=4LNL_bEetHO-cqQCAOX3CA




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Unfortunately 2 innocent civilians died.




All because Russia fires rockets at civilians in western Ukraine


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] * 2
    #28055066 - 11/16/22 07:28 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

How is this any different than a Hamas statement lol


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28055123 - 11/16/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

NYT saying the quiet part out loud

For Western Weapons, The Ukraine War is a Beta Test


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28055578 - 11/17/22 01:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Graham Phillips is sanctioned for propaganda.





Yes I bet the U.K. government hates his independent journalism.
He did some interviews in Crimea 2 years after the 2014 referendum talking to people and asking questions about how they felt about Russia, Ukraine, free speech, their living conditions etc and strangely enough his reports line up with what Falcon has been saying :super:

He also interviewed some Crimean Tatars.

Watch them if you want, I guarantee you won't start bleeding out of your eyes.





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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #28055594 - 11/17/22 02:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Sounds like the tartars are saying blatantly that they can't speak freely.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: twighead]
    #28055940 - 11/17/22 10:38 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

German anti missile system picks off a bunch of Russian cruise missiles

https://twitter.com/euan_macdonald/status/1593158987800641536?s=46&t=4-NO_kgSD6C47CR8U44grw


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28055981 - 11/17/22 11:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:eek:

Looks like a nice neighborhood. Imagine seeing that shit over your house.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: mushboy]
    #28055988 - 11/17/22 11:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Another video showing yet another shoot down of a Russian cruise missile. This one you can see the surface to air missile come up from behind and hit its target



https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1593010595984457729?s=46&t=q5s0DV_nyazfYU6p0azTCw

I haven’t seen a lot of these missiles being shot down before. Idk if they are just using a lot more recently or Ukraine has learned how to shoot them down

Each one of those missiles cost a million bucks


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28056012 - 11/17/22 11:27 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Another one

https://twitter.com/ukrainerussia2/status/1592888274619715584?s=46&t=b78Dk7mvuOvqbTD2hIGZZA

Apparently 9 cruise missiles were fired at Kyiv yesterday and they were all shot down


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] * 1
    #28056038 - 11/17/22 11:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

It’s funny how quickly we moved on from Ukraine killing innocent polish people and trying to blame it on Russia to drag NATO (further) into a war with Russia.

We can’t use those dead bodies as a weapon against our enemy so fuck em :shrug:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #28056047 - 11/17/22 12:01 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Anyone catch the news about the Azov-linked terror cell busted in Italy?

I really hate reboots, and Gladio 2.0 seems unnecessary when there’s already a fascist in charge in Italy. Either way we should probably keep flooding Europe with weapons.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: twighead]
    #28056064 - 11/17/22 12:16 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Sounds like the tartars are saying blatantly that they can't speak freely.





I watched them.  That's exactly what they're saying. Ha...:sad:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28056097 - 11/17/22 12:43 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Anyone catch the news about the Azov-linked terror cell busted in Italy?

I really hate reboots, and Gladio 2.0 seems unnecessary when there’s already a fascist in charge in Italy. Either way we should probably keep flooding Europe with weapons.




I've read about it, but i can't find much. It's not a 'big news'. Keep in mind that here they catch nazi cells quite often. I'm not even sure it's Gladio-related.
I'm not surprised they are linked to Azov. There have been a lot of contacts between Italian far-right and both Azov and Donbass pro-russian. seems paradoxical eh? i think they are trying to find ground for real combat training.

on the new government, imo they are somehow the product of the old Gladio and other intelligence activities US had here...it took more than a generation, but i think that's the timing that historical events need to procede...
i just hope Russia won't come to denazify us


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: iggyhiggy]
    #28056099 - 11/17/22 12:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I don’t think it’s actual Gladio that’s just tongue in cheek.

But yeah, not much about this story I could find.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28056191 - 11/17/22 01:28 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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sudly said:
Graham Phillips is sanctioned for propaganda.





Yes I bet the U.K. government hates his independent journalism.
He did some interviews in Crimea 2 years after the 2014 referendum talking to people and asking questions about how they felt about Russia, Ukraine, free speech, their living conditions etc and strangely enough his reports line up with what Falcon has been saying :super:

He also interviewed some Crimean Tatars.

Watch them if you want, I guarantee you won't start bleeding out of your eyes.








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Only the sharp tongued people receive punitive measures




Ah yes, very free, just no speak.

And I don't find it strange at all that Fal and Graham have said things that line up, in fact that explains a lot.

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Graham Phillips accused of:

Active participation in propaganda projects of the Putin regime, justification of terrorism, participation in illegal armed groups in Eastern Ukraine, misuse of a journalist status, production of fake news, numerous provocations in Ukraine, Russia and the EU.

In early March 2014, he went to cover the “status referendum” in Crimea. As an RT streamer and a YouTube blogger, he repeatedly called the Ukrainian side “fascists” and “Kyiv junta” which coincided with the points of the Russian state media. A month later, Phillips went to Donbas on an assignment from RT to cover the invasion of pro-Russian armed forces from a point of view complementary to the Kremlin. OFCOM, the UK broadcast regulator, found him guilty of biased coverage of the Ukrainian crisis. Some of his actions were too provocative even for RT. In May 2014, he lied that Ukrainian soldiers shot at him. The video he produced turned out to be such a poor fabrication that RT had to disavow the statements of its freelancer.

https://www.spisok-putina.org/en/personas/phillips/




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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28056252 - 11/17/22 02:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I think those comments line up pretty well with the discussion here.
Like Falcon has been saying it looks like most of the Crimean people were happy joining Russia and some, not all, of the Crimean Tatars still had obvious minor grievances :shrug: they didn’t look or sound too unhappy to me.
Those interviews look like what you’d expect imo.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28056269 - 11/17/22 02:13 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Now line up those comments from the Crimean Tatars to comments we’ve heard from Aboriginal people here in Aus regarding their status in their country.
I didn’t get the impression they were anywhere near as pissed off with the situation as Aboriginal people are here.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28056293 - 11/17/22 02:28 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

If comments from Graham Phillips line up with fals comments on here, I don't think that'd be a coincidence.

Aboriginal people here can quite clearly voice their concerns, like how the stolen generation came about through the raped generation, and that such history should be taught and acknowledged, not swept under the carpet, or not spoken of and recognised.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28056394 - 11/17/22 03:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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It’s funny how quickly we moved on from Ukraine killing innocent polish people and trying to blame it on Russia to drag NATO (further) into a war with Russia.

We can’t use those dead bodies as a weapon against our enemy so fuck em :shrug:



You're being intellectually dishonest here.  There is a very clear difference in circumstances depending on whether it was Russia or Ukraine that did it, and you know this.  People are dead either way, but the two situations are still very different:

1. Russia, during an invasion of another country, shot missiles which Ukraine tried to shoot down and missed, hitting innocents in a neighboring country, and

2. Russia, during an invasion of another country, shot missiles which inadvertently (or maybe intentionally) crossed a border into yet another country killing people.

Either way, it's a fucking tragedy, but there is no blame to be lain on Ukraine under either situation.  Even if #1 is true, Ukraine was shooting DEFENSIVELY at a missile that was going to kill Ukrainians. 

This is basically like a bank robbery where an innocent person walking in front of the bank gets shot.  It doesn't matter whether that person was shot by one of the robbers or a security guard accidentally.  The blame still falls squarely on the bank robbers.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Enlil]
    #28056436 - 11/17/22 03:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Which is why if you start blasting in self defense, you are no longer responsible for the bullets that go downrange.


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