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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chuparosa]
    #28052396 - 11/15/22 08:54 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Does anyone see the mycelium bruising greenish/blue as opposed to a straight blue?  I broke up a grain bag and the next day it looks completely contaminated but I’m wondering if the bruising is a different color from cubensis




Yes.  The mycelium and fruits can bruise green.  What does it smell like?




It smells like mycelium…. Was just shocked to see it look so green a day after breaking it up…. I guess I’ll move to bulk and see what happens


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A_National_Acrobat]
    #28052397 - 11/15/22 08:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Best post a picture here before you get the idea that green is okay.
By the sounds of it you have a fast growing contamination.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28052463 - 11/15/22 09:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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If it is bruising, it wouldn't take a day to show. The bruising would be apparent way sooner.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc]
    #28052480 - 11/15/22 10:14 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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If it is bruising, it wouldn't take a day to show. The bruising would be apparent way sooner.




Understood…. I broke up the bag and put it away so I wasn’t watching to see if the bruising was immediate.  The next time I looked at it, it was this bluish green color


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A_National_Acrobat]
    #28052489 - 11/15/22 10:19 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

That doesn't sound good to be honest.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: alien-hybrid] * 2
    #28052524 - 11/15/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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This thread has become it's own little community.

I would like to ask a question, which has almost definitely been asked previously... and hopefully answered too.

So, lots of people believe that Nats are better than regular cubes. 
Less risk of a bad trip, and more euphoric (by some accounts)

(1) Is it that there is something absent from Nats, that exists in regular cubes? 
(2) Or is it that there is something in Nats, that is absent from regular cubes?
(3) Is Nats going to be a long term game changer?  Like auto-flowering strains were for the cannabis community.

So thank you to anyone that ventures a reply  :-)

alien-hybrid  x



I am not a chemist, but I think a lot of folks think perhaps elevated levels of Baeocystin and/or Norbaeocystin, may contribute to the difference in experience.

https://psychedelicreview.com/baeocystin-ignored-psilocybin-derivative/
https://psychedelicreview.com/norbaeocystin-an-active-component-in-magic-mushrooms/

Speaking strictly for myself, Nats are a game changer for me, not only due to the difference in experience but the anti-inflammatory compounds they contain that cubes don't, are no joke.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad]
    #28052569 - 11/15/22 11:37 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

How long is typical before these fruit?


Edited by iggycrop (12/13/22 10:28 AM)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28052633 - 11/15/22 12:42 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I started microdosing nats instead of cubes. I’m doing every day. No breaks. My GF, my sister, and my sister’s BF are all doing this too.

My sister had never touched a mushroom in her life. Took a 100mg capsul and was struggling to follow conversations for 6-8 hours. Her boyfriend was the same. My sister teaches math to grad students and her boyfriend is an engineer. They can usually follow conversations.

I took a daytime 100mg dose and was just really sapped of all energy all day.

We’re both now dosing only at night. These things seem to pack quite a lot of power. Anyone else microdosing successfully during the day?




That sounds extremely potent. You lucked out on the genetics!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] * 2
    #28052648 - 11/15/22 12:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Everything with these is very culture dependent.


I’ve had some that pin a few days after full colonization and some that took a month.




As far as the different trip I’m sure somebody will analyze them soon, personally I think it’s aegueresin or whatever. I forget who is growing that species the chemical is named for, I want to say hindsight maybe. But I’m very curious how the experience from that species compare with natalensis.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #28052665 - 11/15/22 01:02 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Noone is growing Inocybe aeruginascens, for obvious reasons. It's mycorrhizal.

I personally have very strong doubts Aer is the reason for different Nat effects. But can't wait to see more actual data.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas]
    #28052667 - 11/15/22 01:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I started microdosing nats instead of cubes. I’m doing every day. No breaks. My GF, my sister, and my sister’s BF are all doing this too.

My sister had never touched a mushroom in her life. Took a 100mg capsul and was struggling to follow conversations for 6-8 hours. Her boyfriend was the same. My sister teaches math to grad students and her boyfriend is an engineer. They can usually follow conversations.

I took a daytime 100mg dose and was just really sapped of all energy all day.

We’re both now dosing only at night. These things seem to pack quite a lot of power. Anyone else microdosing successfully during the day?




That sounds extremely potent. You lucked out on the genetics!




Well, maybe for this batch, but I didn’t take a clone. Fortunately I capsuled up a lot of trip sized doses for my GF and I for the next year and stored them separately per dose in impulse sealed Mylar bags with O2 and moisture absorbers.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28052803 - 11/15/22 02:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Adas said:
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BlueAndOrange said:
I started microdosing nats instead of cubes. I’m doing every day. No breaks. My GF, my sister, and my sister’s BF are all doing this too.

My sister had never touched a mushroom in her life. Took a 100mg capsul and was struggling to follow conversations for 6-8 hours. Her boyfriend was the same. My sister teaches math to grad students and her boyfriend is an engineer. They can usually follow conversations.

I took a daytime 100mg dose and was just really sapped of all energy all day.

We’re both now dosing only at night. These things seem to pack quite a lot of power. Anyone else microdosing successfully during the day?




That sounds extremely potent. You lucked out on the genetics!




Well, maybe for this batch, but I didn’t take a clone. Fortunately I capsuled up a lot of trip sized doses for my GF and I for the next year and stored them separately per dose in impulse sealed Mylar bags with O2 and moisture absorbers.




I thought micro dosing was to dose low enough to not notice any notable effects? Kind of like it's working in the background but that's all.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm]
    #28052810 - 11/15/22 02:20 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Not really. You are supposed to feel a little something, just not tripping or feeling too uncomfortable.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas]
    #28052872 - 11/15/22 02:47 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I need to learn more about microdosing. I'm curious on what the right amount is. I guess trial and error


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: blazedup] * 2
    #28053052 - 11/15/22 03:58 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

The stuff I’ve read said micro is supposed to be imperceptible, but I don’t think anybody actually follows that. Even when I tried it for a while taking .15 I would occasionally feel something. Although if I hadn’t tripped a million times there’s no way I would notice.

It usually kicked in when I left the house and I’d feel kinda trippy for a while but if I was chilling at home felt nothing.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #28053060 - 11/15/22 04:02 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

im a pretty heavy cannabis smoker & when i do anything under 0.5g the weed def brings out a bit of the shroominess too. but even without the weed i also usually notice microdoses a little


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: hazyhorse] * 5
    #28053635 - 11/15/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm]
    #28053959 - 11/16/22 04:09 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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BlueAndOrange said:
I started microdosing nats instead of cubes. I’m doing every day. No breaks. My GF, my sister, and my sister’s BF are all doing this too.

My sister had never touched a mushroom in her life. Took a 100mg capsul and was struggling to follow conversations for 6-8 hours. Her boyfriend was the same. My sister teaches math to grad students and her boyfriend is an engineer. They can usually follow conversations.

I took a daytime 100mg dose and was just really sapped of all energy all day.

We’re both now dosing only at night. These things seem to pack quite a lot of power. Anyone else microdosing successfully during the day?




That sounds extremely potent. You lucked out on the genetics!




Well, maybe for this batch, but I didn’t take a clone. Fortunately I capsuled up a lot of trip sized doses for my GF and I for the next year and stored them separately per dose in impulse sealed Mylar bags with O2 and moisture absorbers.




I thought micro dosing was to dose low enough to not notice any notable effects? Kind of like it's working in the background but that's all.




That is the point. My golden teacher microdose was 200mg. So I started with 100mg of nats and found it was super strong compared to what I expected.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28053991 - 11/16/22 05:19 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

That is the point. My golden teacher microdose was 200mg. So I started with 100mg of nats and found it was super strong compared to what I expected.




That's good to know when figuring out dosing. Obviously it's different for everyone but that gives kind of a baseline to work with.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28054009 - 11/16/22 05:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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That is the point. My golden teacher microdose was 200mg. So I started with 100mg of nats and found it was super strong compared to what I expected.




Ahh, I understand now.
I was wondering if I missed something and things changed. I feel like I'm always late on new information.

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