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Are psychologists useless ?
#28046596 - 11/12/22 07:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I've been to a couple of psychologists hoping to find someone that would help me, but they just gave me useless advices that were of no help at all. Do you have similar experiences ? What can somebody do if is in need of help and without much money ?
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Find a loved family member or a loving relationship, boy/girl friend to to bask in that which helps flutter the heart. That will overlay troubles and wash them away.
Also, diet most important. Happy Belly, happy mind.
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#28047958 - 11/12/22 10:45 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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What's your problem?
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Anonymous #1 said: I've been to a couple of psychologists hoping to find someone that would help me, but they just gave me useless advices that were of no help at all. Do you have similar experiences ? What can somebody do if is in need of help and without much money ?
Regards
They seem to help people once you find the right one.
In my personal experience, they are useless. Actually, I think the most use that I got out of a psychologist back when I still tried to do that whole thing was just having a regularly scheduled event that I had to go to every week.
Psychologists are also very much a you get what you pay for thing.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Kryptos]
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Yeah I paid for one in the past to attempt to address my alcohol/benzo cravings and the high levels of anxiety I had at the time. Probably over 50 sessions and nothing she said was helpful at all. One of her suggestions was literally that when I get anxious, I should open microsoft word and type up what I feel anxious about and then play with the fonts and colors! WTF! I don't see what playing with colors is going to do for my anxiety about rising costs of living. None of it actually helped me not have the urge to drink. It was 100 percent stuff that I could find in one of those lame pamphlets about substance abuse. If anything, I got the impression that I knew more about addiction and the brain's response to it than she did. When I explained that it was the implementation of that that I was struggling with, she was like "well you just need to find a way to not give in".
I went to a couple free ones in grad school as well and they were equally worthless. I stopped seeing the paying one when she started feeling that she was worth $150 for each weekly 50 minute session (when I started it was $70). I can't believe some people actually pay her $600+ a month for information that can easily be found online. Actually it doesn't even need to be found online, most of the advice I was given was already obvious/ No shit sherlock type information.
I actually am disgusted by the price tag on that and refuse to pay it. Money is a significant source of anxiety for many people, if not the majority. 150 a week is a lot of money. People are effectively being priced out of "treatment" so that people with a soft science (pscyh) degrees can make $100+ per hour. It's insulting really that someone expects 150 dollars for listening to me talk for 50 minutes and offering what amounts to stock advice.
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Cognitive_Entropy said: most of the advice I was given was already obvious/ No shit sherlock type information.
A lot of people need that.
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Cognitive_Entropy said: People are effectively being priced out of "treatment" so that people with a soft science (pscyh) degrees can make $100+ per hour. It's insulting really that someone expects 150 dollars for listening to me talk for 50 minutes and offering what amounts to stock advice.
Average psychologist makes about 45/hr.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Kryptos]
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A psychologist who examined me as a child gave me a questionnaire interspersed with "I am being chased by demons" LOL, now it's true tho.
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I don't find my political or religious views aligned with popular psychologists, but there is something utilitarian about countless thousands of case histories.
Do you fit a certain profile?
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: durian_2008]
#28062998 - 11/21/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Enlightened, whereby special interest groups wear the label of demon.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Buster_Brown] 1
#28063007 - 11/21/22 10:14 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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See, it's a state-accredited institution.
I consider it harmless, for an enlightened person to compare notes and broaden his vocabulary.
You do run the risk of cyber-chondria, self-incrimination, and being colored through the lens of statism.
Some people are complete train wrecks, with no sense of orientation, in which case I would say that the message forced at the mission is better than nothing. The most pedantic, narcanon level of advice is still some point of demarcation, giving people something to hold on to, once they've gone off the deep end.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: durian_2008]
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You seem knowledgeable. Would a regimen of enemas be considered standard procedure for a train wreck opioid user?
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I've been to a couple of psychologists hoping to find someone that would help me, but they just gave me useless advices that were of no help at all. Do you have similar experiences ? What can somebody do if is in need of help and without much money ?
Study, learn, and practice Buddhism.
What Is Jhana?
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Buster_Brown said: You seem knowledgeable. Would a regimen of enemas be considered standard procedure for a train wreck opioid user?
Since peristalsis has become sluggish or acclimatized to depressants, the patient is usually going to become spastic in withdrawals.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: asterix]
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asterix said: Study, learn, and practice Buddhism.
Yes, with no attachment.
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The one I saw as a teenager after a suicide attempt would tell me about psychedelic mushrooms, and talk about Wasson visiting Mexico, and Hoffman studying Lsd. Of course at the time I thought he was just some adult who I couldn’t really trust. He prescribed me Wellbutrin and that helped me survive wanting to end my life. I zoom with a councilor now, not sure if his title is psychologist or psychiatrist, it’s covered by insurance though, he’s a pro. We basically just have a dialogue and he’s trained and gifted at asking questions to get me to think about my feeling, and why I have them. It’s fucking handy as hell. Worth the couple hours a month
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Land Trout]
#28063690 - 11/21/22 05:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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There's a saying about a psychologist, who is working out his own issues, so crazier than the intended patient.
Like I said, I can't argue with even the cheesiest, most-pedantic version of normalcy. I feel that it's the psych's job to lead you back to mediocre, average behavior that would seem normal to everyday people.
We can willfully choose to be weird, where that is appreciated most, in the appropriate venue.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: durian_2008]
#28063979 - 11/21/22 08:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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So, you're saying that English is a second language?
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: BikerB] 2
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Psychologists can be extremely useful; the issue is that in a market, those who are great know they are above average and charge appropriately. Depending on what you're struggling with, different modalities of therapy can help more. If you're dealing with shitty-life-syndrome, you should probably seek out an ACT trained therapist. If you're struggling with social anxiety or panic disorder, you should seek out a CBT trained therapist. If you are struggling with self-actualizing, you should seek out an existential therapist or psychoanalyst. If you are struggling with acute stress and inability to make decisions, you should seek out someone who provides supportive therapy. If you have borderline personality disorder, you should seek out a DBT trained therapist. If you are having a psychotic event, MDD episode, substance use disorder, ADHD, or bipolar disorder you should seek out a psychiatrist. If you are generally anxious or unsettled or neurotic, maybe mindfulness will work for you.
None of these are guaranteed to work, but they have great evidence with helping.
There are a couple issues here: one, it takes a long time to get to know someone and figure out what their actual problem is. You may say your father abusing you is the reason you are acting out, but perhaps its actually an impulsiveness issue and you have ADHD. If you're not matched to the correct modality, all the talking in the world is not going to help. Supportive therapy can't help you much if your struggles are more structural in nature than acute; you'll perceive this as "this isn't working" because supportive therapy is only a brief intervention.
The second issue is that psychology has become medicalized, so a diagnosis has to be made rapidly. You may not have monopolar MDD, instead you are neurotic and labile emotionally fitting more of a bipolar depression. There may not be enough time to elicit that information and then you get treated with the incorrect treatment. On top of this, there is such a high demand for psychological services that you may often find yourself referred to a social worker who is only trained in supportive therapy. There are only so many CBT trained psychologists, and psychologists usually are more left leaning so they concentrate in the coastal cities. Some areas of the country have exactly zero CBT trained therapists, and coastal cities have therapists with long waiting lists going out for months.
And finally, if you are matched to the correct therapeutic modality and you show up with a great therapist BUT you don't buy into it... it won't work. If this is the case for you, you would do well to continue going until you begin noticing that you are actually changing because of the therapy. If you don't actively participate ("buy into it") then you're not going to see any changes. And this makes intuitive sense; the trash doesn't get taken out if you don't take it out.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Roflspammer]
#28103784 - 12/18/22 03:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt anyone could help Paw with his insecurities, lol
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: BikerB]
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You’re crying over here too
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Roflspammer]
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The second issue is that psychology has become medicalized . . .
Misery is now mostly viewed as a medical issue - biological malfunctioning of a myriad of forms.
I have a friend of 30 years who's always focused more on getting money and becoming wealthy than cultivating relationships. He's always told me he doesn't have the time for relationships because of his many "business ventures". He lives alone in the hills, 25 miles from a major town. He's very isolated - physically & socially.
The last 6 months he's told me he wants to commit suicide. He's tried a dozen medications over the years and recently did 10 sessions of electric shock treatment on his brain. I have a wonderful therapist (who has helped me discover what fuels my misery and emotional disturbances) and I asked her about my buddy.
I told her I'm perplexed why anyone would view misery fueled by prolonged isolation as a medical problem. If you have a vitamin deficiency, it's silly to believe that joining a bowling league is a remedy. You fix a deficiency by obtaining what you need. I was surprised she didn't agree with me and said that meds are the way to go.
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I think part of the reason for that is that science has worked so well; medicine is one of the few functioning institutions left in this country. If you want to fix homelessness, do you trust scientists or do you trust politicians? Hence, homelessness can now be billed as a medical problem. I anticipate issues down the road for this, mostly in the public losing more trust in medicine. Homelessness has medical consequences, but I wouldn't call it a medical diagnosis.
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I don't equate the DSM with science. Mental disorder diagnosis is generally based on a checklist that is filled out during interviews. The American Psychiatric Association votes on what they view as normal & abnormal experiences, and that determines the contents of the checklists.
But the DSM is sacred ground these days. Not to be questioned!
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Anonymous #1 said: I've been to a couple of psychologists hoping to find someone that would help me, but they just gave me useless advices that were of no help at all. Do you have similar experiences ? What can somebody do if is in need of help and without much money ?
Regards
They are worthless to strong minded people.
All they do is say 'talk about something random' then they say 'and how does that make you feel?', then they give you the most obvious advice that could possibly be given usually knowing that you already know the obvious advice and cant/won't do the obvious advice anyway because you have a problem with that obvious advice. Then they ask you what you think about that. Then they ask you how that makes you feel.
Then you do it again, round and round it goes.
Fuck I feel like I just had a session just typing that out.
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All they do is say 'talk about something random' then they say 'and how does that make you feel?', then they give you the most obvious advice that could possibly be given
A good therapist approaches emotional disturbances (self-loathing, depression, anxiety, rage, jealousy), loneliness, and relationship conflicts as a journey in problem solving. You are the driver. It's your life. I've never experienced what you describe. Not all therapists possess effective skills - just like any profession.
People often seek help when they are unsuccessful in solving problems.
Various forms of misery are fueled and sustained by ignorance.
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Therapy psychologists and anything is pointless and a waste of time if you don’t want to be helped. It’s dumb people pay a bunch of money to talk to someone about stuff and nothing gets changed. I think doing stuff you enjoy and not living life to please other people is good. All the psychologists I talk to tell me not to play violent video games or watch violent movies and try to get me to do stuff I don’t like or find helpful. I think you should do what makes you happy as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.
Stuff that makes me feel good is hard to get though I really only like drugs sex and dangerous things if it’s not dangerous I don’t enjoy it as much. They find this as a warning sign but I just like living life to the maximum they want to prevent it. I think psychologists purposely try to do negative things to me because they don’t agree with my lifestyle and refuse to admit they are wrong. I think they all evil bad people never met a good one.
They don’t admit to truth if their schooling teaches them different. It may say drugs cause really bad things and they do for most people but I just really enjoy them and honestly I believe I would be dead if I did not have access to some good chems. Drugs are the reason I keep living and they try to keep them away it’s like they want people to kill themselves or freak out. It’s so dumb to spend money talking about how my brain has been chemically altered to only feel pleasure with chemicals. Talking not going to help only more chemicals
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I used to actually tell people that using meth saved my life. And I believed it. The belief I'm happier doing drugs is alluring and seductive - yet a mind under the influence of drugs sees itself and the world in a very distorted way.
It's a fascinating journey to learn why we fuel our misery.
Misery is more addictive than any drug out there . . .
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Anonymous #1 said: I've been to a couple of psychologists hoping to find someone that would help me, but they just gave me useless advices that were of no help at all. Do you have similar experiences ? What can somebody do if is in need of help and without much money ?
Regards
Psychology has many schools of thought.
Once you have successfully determined what is on your mind, you can look up what are different peoples' opinions.
I guess, the use of a psychologist, here, is that you have an impartial observer.
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I don’t like any sort of authoritarian regime I don’t agree with a lot of stuff mental health professionals say I don’t think they even agree with it constantly like sometimes I think they even understand that drugs are fun and enjoyable while using them but can’t provide them or get them legalized because of the government. I just don’t think drugs are as much an issue as the power struggle to get them people do all kinds of things they normally would not for drugs. It seems like the worst people on earth have control of the drugs and understand they hard to get even do it on purpose so getting them requires crime. I guess not psychedelics but meth coke and fentadope you need to be a real criminal to get the insane people selling it to trust you. It’s as if the system is designed for drug users to fail and it’s entrapping on purpose they use entrapment to get extra charges like fake buyers get my friend to drive to a area where dealing is a felony just to fuck up his life.
They bigots when it comes to drug use and somewhat racist I can’t understand how peyote is illegal it confuses me so much, modern weed to a non user would mess you up more than a single peyote cactus about 5 years old I’m pretty certain. They don’t even want you to replant them they want them to go extinct it’s not conservation it’s destroyed in wild by all the new Texas Mexican towns. Some still left but I don’t understand why a non dangerous sacred plant needs to be so restricted. I think it should matter only what you do in real life like if you use drugs and don’t steal or hurt anyone I don’t see a problem don’t drive a car it’s simple really.
Problem is dealing with passive aggressive people stealing your stuff doing bad things cause you high. I’m pretty sure if I didn’t use drugs mental health people wouldn’t bother me at all they just like to because they probably know they can cause I don’t do anything so they enjoy profiting by forcing me to do things they want and I don’t. I do things I personally don’t agree with or like because of how angry I am with being treated like someone who is insane because I can’t get drugs I want. It’s not insanity to just want things and be very angry when told no especially drugs you had before are well aware you can handle and have actually changed your brain to want them permanently. I think chemicals can be more addictive than eating disorders or sex addiction because it’s really bad withdrawals but the desire never goes away. It’s so expensive it’s not easy to even survive. It’s very frustrating for the government to spend money telling you things you don’t agree with will not comply with and even point out what a waste of time and money it is just to be told its needed. I can’t believe they will spend so much money on drug treatment and use law enforcement to force people to not do what they enjoy but will not help people get stuff they keep wanting.
Nothing really is evil about drugs but the government is nazis and wants to make it look as bad anyway they can including sabotage. The problem is the people in power of drugs I’m not the only person that really wants stuff the pharmacy will not provide it’s why the cartels have so much money and power. If I wasn’t constantly afraid of being locked in prison and had the ability to enjoy life I would act completely differently. Prison is such a terrible place I would rather die the 8th amendment is fake as it gets.
I want drugs in a locked setting more than any other time and would do anything they asked for meth or whatever including bad behavior towards inmates like you will get solitary confinement a few years but I think they let you back eventually. Stabbing people and getting butfucked for drugs no fun and actually evil (I don’t really like men but it wouldn’t be evil if you enjoyed it and didn’t do it for drugs) nothing would be evil with the chemicals if not for the government except miss dosing and suicide and murder poisoning. But pure uncut chemicals safer than random stuff you uncertain about. It’s a very obvious negligence for public safety the chemists dump into water supply messes up children I have dedicated my life to getting to end.
It’s the worst thing really what the people do with humans is very wrong burning people alive for getting robbed or losing the cartels coke to police. Even go after your family your lucky if they shoot you they so savage and evil you best just find fentadope before they find you and agree with whatever they want that’s what the government basically does and lies to the public. I’m sure they even stage busts to look good publicly it’s really corrupt stuff get really rich doing unspeakable things. Something should have been done a long time ago it’s really strange understanding everything they claim about weed and psychedelics is lies and being told to conform to lies and then have them get mad at you for lying right back. I wish I could be more honest but people keep saying weed is bad it makes me angry I know they know it’s a lie.
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I understand that the psychologist is an accredited agent of the state and might have to report on someone, eventually. You probably shouldn't tell them much about dissidence, unless you have no filter.
I was once shown, amongst a pile of other toys, anatomically correct versions of Raggedy Anne and Andy dolls, partially undressed. Most of us know the normal rules about that. Some don't.
I dealt with one ex con, hard drug user, severely beaten after a local police chase. Many mental issues in his immediate family. He had problems with comprehending common courtesy and personal space. (Not ironically.)
The psych would hopefully offer advice on the level of a public service announcement, which some rare, criminally-retarded examples of us still need to be told.
Otherwise, the Golden Rule is going to be enough to get you through most moral conflicts.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: durian_2008]
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I wouldn't say they are. At least they did not turn out to be in my case. What I have noticed though are two things: in order for a psychologist to give me a real advice they had to be older than me and I was usually more open with women. I did not like talking to men as they would assume I was being dishonest and tried to reveal how I manipulate the session. I guess I can understand it as probably most of their patients try to hide something. I didn't and women would take it seriously. Men would try to call it bullshit first, which I found annoying. As to all the comments questioning the methods: what made me able to solve my issues was obedience. I was mentally on my last legs therefore desperate. I would treat every suggestion religiously and just do what they asked me to do. For example, I was asked to write a letter to my dead father and read it out loud in front of my therapist. I thought it was the biggest cliche in the world, it's in every movie etc... I did that though. It was 4 pages long and didn't feel like much till I actually had to read it to her. Fuck me... I have never felt so exposed in my life. And I think THIS was the purpose of my exercise. Not to speak about my father but to kind of show myself to me. I'm afraid we all take their advice for granted as it seems childish or plain simple, we don't have time for THIS SHIT, we will not draw a FUCKING FLOWER, who do tney think we are??? Well... we are their patients. When you go to a dentist do you question their choice of treatment? Me neither mate, I sit there and do what I'm told. They fuck it up, tough, move on to the next one but usually they do a good job don't they?
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Belmondawg]
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Belmondawg said: When you go to a dentist do you question their choice of treatment?
At the risk of sounding flippant, yes.
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Belmondawg said: I did not like talking to men as they would assume I was being dishonest and tried to reveal how I manipulate the session.
You might consider me one of those male personalities, who is trying to decide whether there is an angle or twist.
I personally disagree with the politics of many psychologists, yet, on an all-businesss level of reasoning, there are thousands of case histories with corroborating details.
I might agree or disagree, without putting what is (to me) another body in the room on an emotional pedestal.
I usually never find that I am dealing with a completely irrational person, except I have my own personal sense of priorities.
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I’ve been in the field awhile. If you can’t afford one get on Medicaid . If you don’t like your therapist,get another. They should be professional but sometimes you don’t gel. Thats ok Get a different one. Zoom therapy is easier for most ppl. Some prefer face to face. It works if you speak up when you feel it’s not working & changes can be made. Good luck
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Psychologists, at least good ones are definietlyt not useless because our minds are very predictable once we get a feel for what program the brain is running.
Psychiatry is useless...
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Nikon Addict said: Psychologists, at least good ones are definitely not useless because our minds are very predictable once we get a feel for what program the brain is running.
Psychiatry is useless...
I would like to argue that psychiatry is what is trying to help this many of the societal problems in this world; the issue is that psychiatry is an edge case in many instances. The psychotic patient will cause societal and personal damage, unless of course they are in the woods by themselves; then they are just living their lives. Chlorpromazine is hardly useless.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Roflspammer] 3
#28141650 - 01/15/23 05:52 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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If you spend some time with the severely mentally ill, you realize very quickly how not useless psychiatrists are
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: feevers]
#28141743 - 01/15/23 06:32 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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feevers said: If you spend some time with the severely mentally ill, you realize very quickly how not useless psychiatrists are
Truest statement Ive read on here.
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Re: Are psychologists useless ? [Re: Roflspammer]
#28142020 - 01/15/23 08:54 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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Believe it or not, mental illness isn't caused by an imbalance in brain chemistry nd check this out, that was only a theory. I'm not going to waste any time trying to explain the mechanism because I already have but if you want to learn what actually drives all forms of mental illness, buy the book "Brain Energy" by Dr Christopher M Palmer and then get back to me. In a nutshell, it's poor cellular glucose metabolism and mitochondrial dysfunction and both conditions are caused by inflammation, which makes sense because inflammation is either directly or indirectly involved in disease and the onset of disorders. Don't believe me, by the book...
Brain Energy: A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health--and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD, and More
-------------------- personal note: "It’s fair to say I’m stepping out on a limb, but I am on the edge and that’s where it happens.”
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