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Offlineoz-nomad
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PTSD and psilocybin * 3
    #28046357 - 11/12/22 02:15 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hi, first post here. I lost my wife of 40 years in an extremely traumatic incident a year ago and I am suffering from PTSD. I'm struggling, to be honest.

I recently saw a TV series called How to Change your Mind by Michael Pollan.



So my long-term mild interest in fungi has crystallized with my current need.

But I don't know where to turn and what to do. I don't want to break rules here so I'm uncertain how much to say. Send me private messages with advice if that's what's required.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad] * 2
    #28046364 - 11/12/22 02:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hello Friend!

Welcome to the community! <3 My deepest condolences! That's a loss no one should experience...

I had sadly a similar experience and lost my baby girl 16 yrs ago. I didn't see any Psychiatrist at that time and thought the same as you, I could do it somehow with psilocybin. But I relived that horrible situation so strong and intense at that point, that it actually did more dmg than healing.

It has an huge potential for depression and strong PTSD cases as we have. But, what I also have to say is that if you have a good Psychiatrist, talk with him/her about your thoughts with psilocybin. I don't know the legal state in your country (NZ?) but where I live it's sadly illegal.

But my psychiatrist has actually started this topic with me, and she know that it's not hard for people to get to shrooms. So she decided, if I would want to do that, she would accompany me and help me with that treatment. She had also already experience in that specific field of work.

The reason why I recommend at least talking to your Doctor about this topic is that as good as it can be, it can also cause alot of mental damage if one is not yet fully prepared to be confronted again with those bad experiences.

I am still on medication, that's why I haven't started the treatment yet. Which is also a big part, if you have to take meds, better wait with the psylocybin until your off meds and those have left your system.

That's what I am doing now and just spending my time learning about cultivation and reading alot on the topic about treating PTSD with psylocibyn.

If you want to talk further more and a bit more intimate, just pm me with any thoughts or questions that you may have.

We are all here to help each other and this community is so friendly, kind and generous. You can get so much information and help from these people here. It's a wonderful community! <3

I wish you al the best friend! Keep your head up and take one step at the time. Your healing process is just beginning and will have a lot of rocks in your path. But eventually you will get better over time and with help from your loved ones.

Mush Love <3
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Offlineoz-nomad
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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: Shrimps] * 1
    #28046369 - 11/12/22 02:54 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Thank you for your kind words. I did try talk therapy for a while but it only got me so far. I was hoping that mushrooms and mushroom hunting could become not only a therapy, but also a hobby that gets me outdoors, perhaps in a group? I am also interested in mushrooms for consumption, in other words as food. But maybe I'm imagining things that are not possible, I don't know.

As for the medical profession and psychedelics: this is Australia, not Europe. We're a little bit "slow" here. πŸ™„


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad] * 1
    #28046375 - 11/12/22 03:09 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Okay, well I would at least recommend searching up some Books about microdosing and treatments. There is a bunch of literature about this topic, just needs a bit research ;-)

And regarding cultivating, hunting and going more outdoors, I can definitely tell you, that those things are possible ;-) We have some people here from Australia. And Mushrooms in general, not only shrooms can become a great hobby and something to focus your mind and thoughts to (that something that also helped me, to not focus on my negative thoughts).

Gourmet Mushrooms and Shrooms are both easy cultivatable and huntable. So you are in for a treat in this hobby :smile: Also getting outdoors, enjoying and embracing the nature around you is a great medicine for your mind and body what helps the healing process alot!

Yes, talk therapy didn't work for me aswell, it took me several years until I found a Psychiatrist wo actually really could help me. And even though I was actually not fond of beeing on medication at all, I had to realize that medication is just a tool to get my mind and my moodswings in a place where the trauma therapy actually started to work and I started making progress. I am now at a place in life, where I can talk about my traumas and my thoughts without having any Dissociation of any sorts.

And now we are slowly going down on the medication and the plan is in spring to finally be off them.

Start with reading about cultivation and the different Fungi that interests you. With time you will have an idea what you would want to achieve and how to get there ;-) And the people here will always be here to help you and stand by your side <3


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: Shrimps]
    #28047698 - 11/12/22 08:14 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Thank you again.

If I may ask ... if there is anyone in Toowoomba or in South East Queensland who is knowledgeable and into this topic and who would not mind some company, please send me a message. Thanks kindly!


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad]
    #28072375 - 11/27/22 11:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Nomad, how awful. Im sorry that that happened to you. I wish there was something I could say that could provide even a smidgen of consolation.

Im Australian and I think the sensible advice is for you to try and get yourself involved in a clinical trial. They are happening in many of the big hospital networks in partnership with big universities in the capital cities. The evidence for it all is in the building of a relationship with a therapist and a setting, then introducing psychedelics within that safe environment and then following you up to integrate your journey. Safe being the operative word. If you have severe PTSD symptoms I think it should be professionally supervised.

Failing that, you could do what countless others in this community to do - do lots of reading/research, get your hands on some gear, prepare your set and setting including a sitter, start low dose and work your way up, giving yourself time to integrate and process. I say this only as gentle encouragement though.

The third comment would be to locate some good MDMA as a bit of a gentler step towards classical psychedelics and I have certainly enjoyed many revelations. Very good for learning to forgive yourself and others in my personal experience - among other powerful benefits of course.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad]
    #28105949 - 12/20/22 11:50 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

This is actually my field of work.
And we are moving towards using Ketamine and mushrooms for PTSD in the state I live in. In fact it is legal.
You get a counselor and they work with you while you are under the influence.
I lost my son and I did therapy and EMDR at the same time, two seperate therapists. I was seeing a therapist twice a week.
EMDR is amazing. But during the therapy it is rough.. extremely difficult but the pay off is your trauma response is decreased. I literally could not say the words outloud that my son passed away. For over a year. It helped me a lot, but honestly the grief doesnt go away. You change and address it in a different matter because you have to. Some things help..
Find a counselor that uses ketamine. Try EMDR. I would do both.
Legal in WA and CO


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad]
    #28121341 - 01/02/23 03:08 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

I keep checking back to see if you have updated.
I lost my son, it has been 4 years.
It could be 40 years and it would still be the most traumatic event in my life.
I hope you find some help. Because I empathize with your grief. I deal with mine every second of every day.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28121663 - 01/02/23 06:23 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

Hi loladoreen,

I just wanted to acknowledge your post. I too lost my son, and the healing process is a torturous journey. I commend you on choosing to heal, so few people do.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: Skydoggy]
    #28121681 - 01/02/23 06:30 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

Thank you.

I appreciate that.
Thank you :smile:


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: oz-nomad] * 2
    #28124340 - 01/04/23 12:59 PM (1 year, 24 days ago)

I just found this forum and this post, and it speaks to me so much. I am on a similar, but entirely different journey.

I recently retired from the US Military and have been suffering from PTSD, Anxiety, Depression, and Alcohol Use Disorder for years. I have also been on medication at times and been in talk therapy for 4 years.

As I retired I really wanted to finally take my own health decisions into my own hands. I started getting interested in alternative medicines and therapies that could help. That's when I came across the work they have done at Johns Hopkins medical center on the subject of psilocybin and the amazing results.

Since I have used psychedelics before (I tried LSD twice in high school) I would not be accepted into these studies. That's when I decided to pursue it on my own. I have chosen to grow mushrooms on my own to conduct my own studies and determine if the therapy will work for me. I will be using psilocybin in conjunction with talk therapy, exercise, healthy eating, meditation, and journaling.

I am documenting my journey from start to finish and sharing via Youtube and my personal blog.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: Kilo_Bravo]
    #28125090 - 01/04/23 09:58 PM (1 year, 23 days ago)

Hi mate. I'm in the area and am having to find this stuff out solo too. It's a very conservative area (what you referred to as slow). Or perhaps I just don't move in the right circles. Try the book: Psilocybin Mushrooms of South East Queensland. I wouldn't say it's super in depth but I did find the bit on growing conditions useful. I've thought about taking an overseas trip to where it's more acceptable.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: Kilo_Bravo]
    #28125747 - 01/05/23 12:38 PM (1 year, 23 days ago)

Good for you.
Please keep us update.
I have only seen positive results from it. Just recently I looked into getting the training so I can do it. But I cant. It requires paying a RN, etc etc. I financially am not equipped for it .. right now.
Maybe later.
Congratulations on being proactive and healing yourself. It is so much harder then people realize.


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Re: PTSD and psilocybin [Re: loladoreen]
    #28126842 - 01/06/23 04:02 AM (1 year, 22 days ago)

Hi Oz.  I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't begin to imagine how devastating it must be.

Definitely try microdosing first.

If you go for the full 'trip', you're going to dig up a lot of stuff thats hard to deal with.  Unless you've a competent and trained psychotherapist / psychiatrist (I'd suggest NOT a counsellor unless they have relevant qualifications, experience and professional body membership) to guide and support you, you could make things worse.

If you find a sympathetic professional with relevant experience, unless it's part of a formal trial or in a location where shrooms / agic truffles are legal, you'll need to provide your own so they don't run the risk of getting nicked for dealing.

Obviously, if you're on any meds, including stuff like St John's Wort, you'll need to research any potential interactions.

Good luck.


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