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Why would they say something if they don’t know? They know. You don’t report on things if you don’t know they are facts.
Are you going to avoid commenting on the “possibility” that musk is giving investors access to user data?
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: twighead] 2
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No no no... Falcon91Wolvrn03 has determined - likely using methods similar to his Crimean fact-finding mission - that Twitter has objectively more freedom now than ever before. We know this to be true because Falcon91Wolvrn03 hates make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Twitter is clearly more free speech now than they were pre-Elon
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: There's more freedom to express your opinion on Twitter now than there is on Facebook, YouTube, and other mainstream social media apps. That's the bottom line.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: koods]
#28045725 - 11/11/22 04:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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If you don't know they are facts, you use the words "possible".
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Still avoiding the question with semantic games
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: koods]
#28045749 - 11/11/22 04:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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It's not a semantics game. If you don't know something, then you say "maybe" and "possibly", and if you know it, you don't use those words.
Maybe this explains how you've become the most tricked poster in this forum. You think anytime the media says something it's true, even if they say "maybe".
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Still avoiding
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shivas.wisdom said: No no no... Falcon91Wolvrn03 has determined - likely using methods similar to his Crimean fact-finding mission - that Twitter has objectively more freedom now than ever before. We know this to be true because Falcon91Wolvrn03 hates make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Twitter is clearly more free speech now than they were pre-Elon
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: There's more freedom to express your opinion on Twitter now than there is on Facebook, YouTube, and other mainstream social media apps. That's the bottom line.

What content is Twitter now censoring? Pick your favorite mainstream social media outlet, and I can give you a list of things they're censoring (this is why we've had long discussions whether private companies should have a right to censor speech).
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twighead said: Elon musk said something about the terms that Ukraine should accept peace in that mirrored Russian demands
He said the people of the territories should decide their own fate, not Biden or Putin.
But I realize you think the US rules the world and the people there shouldn't have any say.
Oh yeah totally 
The real point since day one is that Russia needs to fuck off - pay large amounts of reparations, allow time for people to return, vow to never return unless invited by real legitimate observed and verified referendums...
Which they have damaged the possibility of any legitimacy since day one, so firstly - they need to fuck completely off - then Ukraine and the UN can work on restoring conditions in which a fair referendum can take place.
It's kind of a pipe dream though, because when you act as belligerent as they have, with illegal un uniformed invasions - no one in their right mind would trust you, and it'll probably be some decades, or the removal/resignation of Putin before anyone believes a single word they say.
If I were Ukraine peace would not seem feasible because Russia has proven themselves so untrustworthy, why should Ukraine believe any good faith in any ceasefire when they have every reason to believe that Russia would violate it as soon as they had regrouped and reorganized their mess of an army.
It would probably require establishment of some kind of DMZ and a lot of UN presence and oversight to make reinvasion untenable - and to legitimize anything politically that took place in the region afterwards. And honestly I don't think the UN has the political will.
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shivas.wisdom said: No no no... Falcon91Wolvrn03 has determined - likely using methods similar to his Crimean fact-finding mission - that Twitter has objectively more freedom now than ever before. We know this to be true because Falcon91Wolvrn03 hates make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Twitter is clearly more free speech now than they were pre-Elon
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: There's more freedom to express your opinion on Twitter now than there is on Facebook, YouTube, and other mainstream social media apps. That's the bottom line.
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What content is Twitter now censoring? Pick your favorite mainstream social media outlet, and I can give you a list of things they're censoring (this is why we've had long discussions whether private companies should have a right to censor speech).
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shivas.wisdom said: No no no... Falcon91Wolvrn03 has determined - likely using methods similar to his Crimean fact-finding mission - that Twitter has objectively more freedom now than ever before. We know this to be true because Falcon91Wolvrn03 hates make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Twitter is clearly more free speech now than they were pre-Elon
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: There's more freedom to express your opinion on Twitter now than there is on Facebook, YouTube, and other mainstream social media apps. That's the bottom line.

What content is Twitter now censoring? Pick your favorite mainstream social media outlet, and I can give you a list of things they're censoring (this is why we've had long discussions whether private companies should have a right to censor speech).
I am so sick of this crap.
It was the same with Donald Trump’s supposed dovish view towards foreign policy.
First you claim that they’re different. And then when they prove they aren’t, you say “yeah well how bout YOU pick a president (or social media outlet) that IS different.”
No. That wasn’t the argument. We are the ones who told you they were all the same lol
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: twighead]
#28045942 - 11/11/22 07:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I'm with you and Elon on that one.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28045946 - 11/11/22 07:09 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I am so sick of this crap.
It was the same with Donald Trump’s supposed dovish view towards foreign policy.
First you claim that they’re different. And then when they prove they aren’t, you say “yeah well how bout YOU pick a president (or social media outlet) that IS different.”
No. That wasn’t the argument. We are the ones who told you they were all the same lol
I don't think Twitter is the same. That's why I asked you what they're censoring.
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I mean, we know that falcon's stance is. He has none.Quote:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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shivas.wisdom said: No no no... Falcon91Wolvrn03 has determined - likely using methods similar to his Crimean fact-finding mission - that Twitter has objectively more freedom now than ever before. We know this to be true because Falcon91Wolvrn03 hates make believe.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Twitter is clearly more free speech now than they were pre-Elon
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: There's more freedom to express your opinion on Twitter now than there is on Facebook, YouTube, and other mainstream social media apps. That's the bottom line.

What content is Twitter now censoring? Pick your favorite mainstream social media outlet, and I can give you a list of things they're censoring (this is why we've had long discussions whether private companies should have a right to censor speech).
Satire. Twitter is censoring satire, which is explicitly protected speech under the first amendment and has lots of legal precedent defending it.
Because Elon has thinner skin that you, somehow.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28046003 - 11/11/22 07:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Falwell vs. Hustler said nothing putting “parody” anywhere. Parody is determined by content. At least it was until Musk came along and changed the rules to limit free speech
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Alot of Twitter sponsors are fleeing. And. It's not because they have faith in musk. And addressing your question, I posted in another thread that he banned someone for calling him a snowflake. Sounds like restricting free speech to me. But I never expected musk to make Twitter any more free in the speech department than it was before. That's would just be stupid.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to join BRICS??? [Re: Kryptos]
#28046332 - 11/12/22 01:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Satire. Twitter is censoring satire, which is explicitly protected speech under the first amendment and has lots of legal precedent defending it.
No, Twitter is not censoring satire. They're banning impersonation without a proper flag.
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So he’s not doing free speech
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Kryptos said: Satire. Twitter is censoring satire, which is explicitly protected speech under the first amendment and has lots of legal precedent defending it.
No, Twitter is not censoring satire. They're banning impersonation without a proper flag.

Except his plan was just to sell check marks with no verification, so he was allowing people to impersonate for a few of 8$.
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Truly on point with your meme magic lately. Busting out Stone Cold is on another level.
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The Ecstatic said: I am so sick of this crap.
It was the same with Donald Trump’s supposed dovish view towards foreign policy.
First you claim that they’re different. And then when they prove they aren’t, you say “yeah well how bout YOU pick a president (or social media outlet) that IS different.”
No. That wasn’t the argument. We are the ones who told you they were all the same lol
I don't think Twitter is the same. That's why I asked you what they're censoring. 
The same shit everyone else is, and from what I can tell since Elon has taken over, they’ve dialed back moderation on hate speech and dialed it up on jokes.
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