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Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation?
    #27657166 - 02/13/22 07:55 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Hi There

I am in Europe and the pressure cooker standard is 116°C 11.6 PSI

Is that going to be ok for sterilization,

or do i need USA standard 121 15PSI cooker?


Many Thanks

Edited by mutantra (02/13/22 07:59 AM)

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: mutantra]
    #27657183 - 02/13/22 08:08 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Id say no, this pc sucks


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27657186 - 02/13/22 08:11 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It does work, increase sterilization time for jars by about 30 mins, bags about 45-60min. Atmospheric pressure sterilizers work too, just takes longer (8 hours or something).


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: BSUUF2]
    #27657208 - 02/13/22 08:30 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Just increase sterilization times. I couldn’t find a 15psi cooker either, steam sterilize in a big pot with boiling water in the bottom. I use 90 minutes for agar and 3h for grain spawn, so far I’ve been good. The absolute vast majority of my empty agar plates ends up clean, and so far haven’t had grain jars contaminate. So I wouldn’t worry too much as long as you increase the times.

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: ChildOfTheMoon]
    #27657270 - 02/13/22 09:41 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That’s about the same pressure as my Instant Pot. Works perfectly every time.

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: BSUUF2]
    #27657458 - 02/13/22 12:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

thank you :_-)

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: mutantra]
    #27657472 - 02/13/22 12:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Here you go. Hope this helps.


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: MTZ]
    #27657489 - 02/13/22 12:42 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It is possible to buy 13 PSI pressure cookers in Europe. For example Silit Sicomatic T-plus and WMF Perfect are rated at 13-14 PSI (according to their manuals). That gives a temperature of 119 °C.

I have used a 13 PSI pressure cooker for almost 20 years, and it has worked perfectly for sterilizing grain, agar, and so on.

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: Pinback] * 1
    #27657632 - 02/13/22 02:53 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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MTZ said:
Here you go. Hope this helps.




That graph is a god send. I've had a table out of some German biology text book flying around before, but couldn't find that anymore. Thanks. :smile:

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It is possible to buy 13 PSI pressure cookers in Europe. For example Silit Sicomatic T-plus and WMF Perfect are rated at 13-14 PSI (according to their manuals). That gives a temperature of 119 °C.

I have used a 13 PSI pressure cooker for almost 20 years, and it has worked perfectly for sterilizing grain, agar, and so on.




Want to see something ridiculous? https://autoklav.at/product_info.php?info=p244_autoklaven-elektrisch--edelstahl-agee40--fuer-40-glaeser-0-5-liter-oder-28-glaeser-1-liter-automatische-temperatur--und-zeitunterstuetzung--vollautomatik-.html Scroll down until you see the pressure gauge @ over 80 PSI, though a little pricey. (Seems like a good compromise compared to an AA 75x for Europeans, considering how hard it is to get AAs past customs here...).


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: BSUUF2]
    #27657657 - 02/13/22 03:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

No problem. Everyone here is sooooo helpful. Figured I'd do what I can. We're all in this together.


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: MTZ]
    #27657764 - 02/13/22 05:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Prestige pressure cookers, some go to 15psi.


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: shuna]
    #27657880 - 02/13/22 06:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

If 6L isn't too small for you I'm happy with this one.
https://www.silberthal.de/products/schnellkochtopf-6l-induktion-edelstahl
Good quality and reduced price at the moment. Temperature reaches 120°C respectively 14.5psi.

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: shuna] * 1
    #27657934 - 02/13/22 07:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Prestige pressure cookers, some go to 15psi.




Yeah, I like prestige, got an 8l with an high dome lid for agar. Goes up to 14.5 PSI.

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: BSUUF2]
    #27659392 - 02/15/22 06:32 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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MTZ said:
Here you go. Hope this helps.




That graph is a god send. I've had a table out of some German biology text book flying around before, but couldn't find that anymore. Thanks. :smile:

Quote:

Pinback said:
It is possible to buy 13 PSI pressure cookers in Europe. For example Silit Sicomatic T-plus and WMF Perfect are rated at 13-14 PSI (according to their manuals). That gives a temperature of 119 °C.

I have used a 13 PSI pressure cooker for almost 20 years, and it has worked perfectly for sterilizing grain, agar, and so on.




Want to see something ridiculous? https://autoklav.at/product_info.php?info=p244_autoklaven-elektrisch--edelstahl-agee40--fuer-40-glaeser-0-5-liter-oder-28-glaeser-1-liter-automatische-temperatur--und-zeitunterstuetzung--vollautomatik-.html Scroll down until you see the pressure gauge @ over 80 PSI, though a little pricey. (Seems like a good compromise compared to an AA 75x for Europeans, considering how hard it is to get AAs past customs here...).



Those autoclaves on that autoklav are insane! I’ve had the one that can hold 14L jars bookmarked for a few months! One of these days I’m gunna buy it! One of these days….

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: SwabMarley] * 1
    #27659410 - 02/15/22 07:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I'm rooting for ya Myc. I know you'd put it to good use.


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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: sandman420]
    #27659702 - 02/15/22 10:11 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm rooting for ya Myc. I know you'd put it to good use.



Haha, cheers bud! I believe it was you that linked the website when I first saw it. It’s more or less exactly the same price as a 2’X2’ FFU I’m definitely gunna purchase at some point this year.

Now I’m thinking, autoclave or FFU first. I’ve got a very low contam rate in my SAB anyways and to be able to just load jars, flick a switch and walk away is just too attractive a concept to ignore!

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Re: Is a European pressure cookler 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: Pinback]
    #28034468 - 11/05/22 01:32 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Pinback said:
It is possible to buy 13 PSI pressure cookers in Europe. For example Silit Sicomatic T-plus and WMF Perfect are rated at 13-14 PSI (according to their manuals). That gives a temperature of 119 °C.

I have used a 13 PSI pressure cooker for almost 20 years, and it has worked perfectly for sterilizing grain, agar, and so on.




Thanks for this. Just ordered myself a 8.5L WMF Perfect Plus, after a long time hesitating. Almost ready to take my first baby steps.


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Re: Is a European pressure cooker 116°C 11.6 PSI ok for sterilisation? [Re: gun fuy]
    #28034518 - 11/05/22 02:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.allamericancanner.com/Small-240V-Benchtop-Autoclave-Sterilizer.htm

They deliver also to Europe, but I'm going to let my folks send it to me :laugh: I use a cheap PC which is at around 12-13 psi. Works fine though only 6L ^^ Saving up for the autoclave :laugh:


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