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Gumby
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Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics)
#2803392 - 06/17/04 06:55 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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First off, I'll go ahead and post some pics of Panaeolus subbalteatus that I picked from my regular patch a few days ago:
Biggest Pan subb I've ever seen:
Now, on to the story of what I did today. If you've been reading the forums lately, you might have read about me planning to go check out some mushrooms growing on new sod. A friend of mine is working construction in a very upscale neighborhood (800k+ homes). He gave me a call the other day saying that he found a "shitton" of mushrooms growing on some new sod. I was thinking they were the usual lawn Conocybes but when he brought a few of them for me to examine, they were either some species of Panaeolus(some active) or Panaeolina(all inactive).
Unfortunately he beat up the caps too much to get a spore print, but I went by the place and picked some this morning and got a print going. The mushrooms dropped black prints and showed some slight bluing on the mycelium at the base of the stem. We were in luck. We went back to the lawn at 6pm and picked mushrooms for at least an hour and a half.
This resulted in somewhere around 3-4 pounds of fresh, active Panaeolus mushrooms. As far as which species these are... No clue. I first suspected them to be Panaeolus subbalteatus, but now I think otherwise. I'm going to send some prints and dried mushrooms out to see if I can get an ID on them. I'm thinking they might be Panaeolus castaneifolius. We'll see.
One thing to keep in mind here is that these mushrooms were growing from brand new sod. After talking to my buddy I found out that the sod farm uses manure to grow the sod, so essentialy these were fruting from maunre and grass
I know you want pics for proof... so... behold, teh mushr00mZ:
The lawn from my view point:
A fairy ring of actives:
The final haul(in a shoebox sized plastic container):
From the side:
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superblingtheory
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803411 - 06/17/04 07:06 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holy shit- that's gonna make the nut! This in atlanta too?
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Gumby
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: superblingtheory]
#2803420 - 06/17/04 07:11 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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More or yes, it's up around Lake Lanier. Bout 40 miles NE of Atlanta.
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jahfeelirie
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: superblingtheory]
#2803435 - 06/17/04 07:15 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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i believe i said it best earlier when i said....
HOLY MCSHIT
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Ooze
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803441 - 06/17/04 07:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOW !!!! Congrats on the haul. Thanks for All the pics.
-ENJOY-
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deepgaze
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803532 - 06/17/04 08:08 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow, ive never had that many pans in one hunt,great photos aswell. nice job.
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2Experimental
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803663 - 06/17/04 09:02 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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awsome find gumby! I think I will add BRAND new neighborhoods to my list of places to look for mushrooms after the rain.. they pop up all around where I live and are always putting new sod in.!
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hawk
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803723 - 06/17/04 09:26 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow!!! nice, I swear I have seen those around just never thought about them that much. I will be more observant in the future. Keep us updated
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overgrow
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2803766 - 06/17/04 09:43 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too bad they werent Pan cyans How potent are the subs? Ive never personally found one.. Pictures from my 'shitton' hunt of cyans
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MadSeasonAbove
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: overgrow]
#2804032 - 06/17/04 11:13 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh man! houses are being built all over the place in my area, I see sod trucks all the time!!! tell me im dreaming! this is all a dream.............. ummmmm, does it HAVE to be relatively new/freshly planted sod(ofcourse it must be from manure), but in other words, does the nutrients in the manuregrass burn out to the point where it will not produce lovelys anymore? if so, could someone take a guess on how long it would produce? those look potent for some reason. That has got to be a great thing to stumble across. Excellent! And that post above mine, those look be-A-Utiful. Awesome picture, awesome find! -J
Edited by MadSeasonAbove (06/17/04 11:15 PM)
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2Experimental
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: MadSeasonAbove]
#2804049 - 06/17/04 11:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am sure for at least the first year and the one after it it could produce shrooms.
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MadSeasonAbove
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: 2Experimental]
#2804100 - 06/17/04 11:28 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK, Im going hunting, ill be back in a bit....Hopefully with some good news!
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mjshroomer
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2804141 - 06/17/04 11:41 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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The conic shaped shrooms are either P. fimicola or P. olivaceus.
mj
Nice lawn.
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Psilygirl
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2804162 - 06/17/04 11:46 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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great find!! and thanks for sharin the beautiful pics!!
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Falkon
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2804516 - 06/18/04 02:32 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm tellin' ya man, the sod really brings them. I found some like that where I work. Now, generally it's not a good idea to pick your magical specimens where you work, but there was nobody around and I acted like I was tying my shoe just in case.
This was on about 1 year old sod too.
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GGreatOne234
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2805265 - 06/18/04 11:37 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow those things really pop up high out of the grass.
mj is probably right, they must be either Panaeolus fimicola or Panaeolus olivaceus
Take spore prints and dry and save some of those.
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macc1234
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
#2806026 - 06/18/04 02:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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the mushrooms in my lawn look exactly, and i mean EXACTLY like those. i just brought a few in and compared them to yours. i actually got some information from my dad that a few years back, he tore up the whole lawn and put in new grass and topsoil, which i found out was sod. my lawn could be filled with pan subbs and not pan foes.
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mjshroomer
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: macc1234]
#2807592 - 06/18/04 10:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure if youare aware that sod are little square patches of grass already grown and then laid on a square of space which becomes your lawn. Sod is grass already grown in square patches.
and laid over the to soil. Usually the spors for species such as blue ringers or p. fimetaria in Seattle produce pounds of blue Ringers.
Pan subbs are very rare in grass usually one to ever five or ten thousand P. foenisecii shroooms.
Changes of lawn subbs are extremely rare.
Joshua had a large patch a few years ago but i think his are beginning to disappear.
If the lawns are not fertilixed on a weekly basis the mushrooms do not reappear.
mj
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: mjshroomer]
#2807735 - 06/18/04 11:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wonder what fertilizing your lawn with manure in the fall would do? I think when I own a lawn I will not use chemical fertilizers but rather organic ones and possible allow some subbs, or even cubes to grow on my lawn!
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mycoguy
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: 2Experimental]
#2807854 - 06/18/04 11:56 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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i believe chemical fertilizers will work as well.
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2Experimental
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: mycoguy]
#2807892 - 06/19/04 12:14 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I doubt it, or else you would see subbs and cubes on lawns all over the place...
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nofind_um
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2808362 - 06/19/04 06:03 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amazing... thanks for sharing your beautiful photos..
Nofindum...
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MESCALATO
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2808382 - 06/19/04 06:46 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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hello gumby i have a few questions. is it possible that the mystery pan i found a month ago is the same as the ones your finding ? here are some pics below showing different stages of maturaty in the ones i found to compare to the ones you found, i know you wont be able to tell if ours are the same musroom just by photo comparison alone but i was just wondering if you or any one else thought they look similar at all. i think they are very similar. did your show any blueing in the stem base? thanks for any help.
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nycomyco
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: Gumby]
#2808563 - 06/19/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recently came across a different panaeolus when I was looking for subs in rotting stable waste that looks similar to the ones in your pics. The cap was somewhat fuzzy and had a pale green complexion around the edges of the cap and the stem was thin and reddish. I thought maybe p. olivaceus or campalanatus, but I'm not sure. If anyone is interested I have a sporeprint (jet black) on a CD of all places.
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nycomyco
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Re: Pounds of Panaeolus mushrooms (lots of pics) [Re: nycomyco]
#2808909 - 06/19/04 01:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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on second thought, I think I found p. papilionaceus.
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