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Azzie? Mutant? Azurectoids? I’m thinking allenii * 2
    #28028171 - 11/01/22 04:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Habitat:
chips, cultivated patch, willamette valley.

Stem:
Shorter than azzies And other cyan clade I’m familiar with, really rhizomophic base, tan/white

Cap:
tan

Spore print color:
Haven’t printed these but the swab had classic dark purple spores.(edit, these were from a print not a swab)

Bruising:
Blue, flies have been hitting the early woodlovers pretty hard at my place.

so this culture is one I’ve been cultivating since winter 2020 from a swab(edit print) that was labeled Azurescens Oregon coast, had a patch throw a couple fruits last fall, and have a new patch started last winter thats throwing up A lot of fruits so far, but they’ve stayed really short, also are a lot lighter color than the cyanescens and subaeruginosa that are also fruiting now.  The colony is very aggresive and has spread really well, several feet away from where blocks of colonized sawdust was planted.  Was feeling pretty good about that as I’ve worked with some other azurescens that just wasn’t as aggresive as this culture, but Cause they don’t have a typical azzie look to them I’m doubting what they were labeled as.  I trust the source they are from, but would sure like some more experienced eyes on them if anything to get the wheels turning.  Either way they are neat and I am happy.


Here are a couple typical cyanescens fruits that are showing up in the patch that is in its second fall, could possibly be migrants from another patch, a wild Cyanescens, or a different expression as it looks like it’s in the same colony as the lighter shorter fruits.  It is an MS culture.  The new bed also has a couple typical cyan type fruits, but that patch is also touching a cyanescens patch.

Hope the post makes sense.  Let me know what you think.
Also I’ve never acquired werorea or and subsectoids anything before, or at least anything labeled as such, but these look kinda like that.


Edited by Land Trout (12/16/22 10:30 PM)


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout] * 1
    #28028929 - 11/02/22 03:34 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #28028934 - 11/02/22 03:51 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I dont think these are subsecotioides honestly, looks like a mutation


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #28028999 - 11/02/22 06:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.





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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #28029222 - 11/02/22 10:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.




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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #28029803 - 11/02/22 05:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Those are dope ass fruits landtrout:thumbup:
I vote subsectoid mix up
Your other azzie tub side pins look azure 👍 like


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #28029811 - 11/02/22 05:32 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.



:whathesaid:
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Anglerfish said:
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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.





:waitwut::goodluckwiththat:



:whathesaid:

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NothingsChanged said:
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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.






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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: rhizoRider]
    #28029910 - 11/02/22 06:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Those are dope ass fruits landtrout:thumbup:
I vote subsectoid mix up
Your other azzie tub side pins look azure 👍 like



Cool Either way.  Got this and a nifty regular azzie. 
Any microscopic stuff to look for that separates subsectoids from the other cyans?  I really hope to crack out some lab work tomorrow.
Here’s the pics of the little bit of fruit I got last year



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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout]
    #28030292 - 11/02/22 09:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

friggin slugs..


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: the man] * 1
    #28030372 - 11/02/22 10:43 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

last year was slugs, this year it's gnats, don't know which is worse.  I still get my cut, and plenty of stem butts to spread the love.


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout] * 1
    #28031061 - 11/03/22 11:54 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Those slugs be spreadin the spores though.


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: MentalPariah]
    #28031062 - 11/03/22 11:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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MentalPariah said:
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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.



:whathesaid:
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Anglerfish said:
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RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.





:waitwut::goodluckwiththat:



:whathesaid:

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NothingsChanged said:
Quote:

RenegadeMycologist said:
Appears to be Psilocybe subsecotioides.






:whathesaid:



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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Moria841] * 1
    #28031776 - 11/03/22 08:24 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

This came up in the middle of my azy patch.







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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #28031860 - 11/03/22 09:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Could be ovoids


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #28034426 - 11/05/22 01:02 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)


Same culture/colony


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout] * 1
    #28050442 - 11/14/22 10:41 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Alright y’all, I’m leaning more towards allenii for these now. 
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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout]
    #28050515 - 11/14/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

They look like allenii to me, but the caps are so light colored it’s throwing me off.


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Dandurn777]
    #28050593 - 11/14/22 11:58 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah, throws some really pale ones.



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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Land Trout]
    #28050646 - 11/14/22 12:20 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I actually found some leucistic allenii last year that looked very similar to these. I thought it was rare, but it seems like it’s more common than I thought.


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Re: Azzie? weraroa? Mutant? Azurectoids? [Re: Dandurn777] * 1
    #28051591 - 11/14/22 08:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Can ya'll stop being nubs, do you live in new zealand and have field experience finding secos? Cause these arent subsecos, sort it out honestly. In my signature last picture are actual secos.


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