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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28271952 - 04/10/23 09:25 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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The public feud between Taibbi and Musk is hilarious. Musk memory holed all of Taibbi’s Twitter files because Taibbi decided to post at sub stack. I just don’t understand why anyone would put any faith in someone like musk. He has 9 kids with 5 different women, and people think he’ll be loyal to them or their ideas.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28272079 - 04/10/23 11:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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No they don't.
Same with Trump. Elon Musk is a human pump-and-dump scheme. If you get in early enough and get off at the peak, you're gonna get catapulted from nobody to worldwide fame.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28304819 - 05/03/23 11:28 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Elon Musk has announced that if NPR doesn't come back to Twitter and start tweeting regularly, he will find someone to impersonate them.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28304825 - 05/03/23 11:39 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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News and politics are the only thing holding Twitter together. Maybe porn to some degree? If Twitter wasn't used as a source on various news channels fairly often it would fade away quickly.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28304981 - 05/03/23 01:42 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I was quite surprised how Bill Maher gushed over Elon during the recent interview. Maher is a huge fan of Elon. Is Bill now a right-wing extremist?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28304992 - 05/03/23 01:53 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Bill Maher? He always was a scumbag. Nothing new there
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: ballsalsa]
#28304994 - 05/03/23 01:55 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I've never heard someone talk so much about the joy of masturbation.
Bill loves to talk about masturbation.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28305250 - 05/03/23 05:05 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28324093 - 05/17/23 10:00 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk censors tweets for Erdogan.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/musk-defends-enabling-turkish-censorship-on-twitter-calling-it-his-choice/
https://mashable.com/article/twitter-censorship-turkey-election

Boy, that really hurts some of the Elon fanboys credibility in this thread.
@FW Absolute proof that twitter is "less free speech" since Elon's take over.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28324159 - 05/17/23 11:11 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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He's just making a tactical free speech retreat. You keep the commies and the political enemies quiet, and you get more freedom of speech for the nazis. See? More Freedom!
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28324197 - 05/18/23 12:01 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Ice9 said: Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk censors tweets for Erdogan.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/musk-defends-enabling-turkish-censorship-on-twitter-calling-it-his-choice/
https://mashable.com/article/twitter-censorship-turkey-election

Boy, that really hurts some of the Elon fanboys credibility in this thread.
@FW Absolute proof that twitter is "less free speech" since Elon's take over.
Did you know that's the law in Turkey which ALL US companies have to comply with?
His "choice" was to comply with Turkish law, or remove Twitter from Turkey altogether.
Apparently you didn't know that - the mainstream media has tricked you again. And Kryptos.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28324261 - 05/18/23 01:45 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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There's at least one other option outside your forced dichotomy, Twitter could also use their corporate weight to challenge that law in a Turkish court on freedom of expression grounds. How do I know this? Because it happened in 2014:
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/a/2014/challenging-the-access-ban-in-turkey https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/a/2014/victory-for-free-expression-in-turkish-court
It's the same as what we've seen in India, where Twitter had previously challenged various laws in court before falling into step post-Elon - he's been vocal about a policy of 'free speech' that aligns with the laws of the countries in which Twitter operates.
That doesn't mean old Twitter would reliably protect free expression either - it's a company seeking to be profitable; always has been - but it certainly doesn't lend itself to your continued belief that Elin-Twitter is any different from all the other social media companies.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28324317 - 05/18/23 03:55 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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He's probably handing over everyone's private data to these authoritarians as well. I think it's time for a law to ban Twitter from government devices.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28324330 - 05/18/23 04:16 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
shivas.wisdom said: There's at least one other option outside your forced dichotomy, Twitter could also use their corporate weight to challenge that law in a Turkish court on freedom of expression grounds. How do I know this? Because it happened in 2014:
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/a/2014/challenging-the-access-ban-in-turkey https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/a/2014/victory-for-free-expression-in-turkish-court
It's the same as what we've seen in India, where Twitter had previously challenged various laws in court before falling into step post-Elon - he's been vocal about a policy of 'free speech' that aligns with the laws of the countries in which Twitter operates.
That doesn't mean old Twitter would reliably protect free expression either - it's a company seeking to be profitable; always has been - but it certainly doesn't lend itself to your continued belief that Elin-Twitter is any different from all the other social media companies.
He's all about free speech! Until it comes time to put his money where his mouth is, that is.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28324372 - 05/18/23 05:24 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Ice9 said: Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk censors tweets for Erdogan.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/musk-defends-enabling-turkish-censorship-on-twitter-calling-it-his-choice/
https://mashable.com/article/twitter-censorship-turkey-election

Boy, that really hurts some of the Elon fanboys credibility in this thread.
@FW Absolute proof that twitter is "less free speech" since Elon's take over.
Did you know that's the law in Turkey which ALL US companies have to comply with?
His "choice" was to comply with Turkish law, or remove Twitter from Turkey altogether.
Apparently you didn't know that - the mainstream media has tricked you again. And Kryptos.
I am confused then @FW. So you are ok with the FBI telling Twitter what to censor then? Since they told twitter to censor speech that violated us laws?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28324451 - 05/18/23 07:18 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Lol censorship is fine as long as its the government doing it apparently
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28324454 - 05/18/23 07:20 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Freedom loving republicans have banned tik tok in Montana
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28324457 - 05/18/23 07:26 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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I wonder what twitters position is on potato head and big bird? Cheers gww
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28324465 - 05/18/23 07:36 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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From 2014, before Twitter was taken over by Turkey’s satellite deployment contractor Elon musk
Twitter wins key case against Turkish government
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28324504 - 05/18/23 08:09 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Ice9 said: Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk censors tweets for Erdogan.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/musk-defends-enabling-turkish-censorship-on-twitter-calling-it-his-choice/
https://mashable.com/article/twitter-censorship-turkey-election

Boy, that really hurts some of the Elon fanboys credibility in this thread.
@FW Absolute proof that twitter is "less free speech" since Elon's take over.
Did you know that's the law in Turkey which ALL US companies have to comply with?
His "choice" was to comply with Turkish law, or remove Twitter from Turkey altogether.
Apparently you didn't know that - the mainstream media has tricked you again. And Kryptos.
Oh I see so if there is a law banning certain types of speech, then the government should be able to tell Twitter to get rid of that speech and Twitter better fuckin comply before they just get shut down.
So this whole thread didn't need to exist. If the government tells Twitter something, well, it's on Twitter to comply.
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