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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28099458 - 12/15/22 07:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: I think you intentionally misunderstand as part of your tactics of misinformation.
did the same to me and others over the years. constantly pretending to not understand while they proclaim intellectual high ground over others.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: mushboy]
#28099473 - 12/15/22 07:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I've known he was doing that from the beginning. I played along but as you said it gets boring dealing with a one trick pony.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28099484 - 12/15/22 07:40 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: What's really strange though, is that people criticize Twitter for being more transparent and for uncensoring anti-establishment users, because they're not doing it to the maximum possible extent, while letting other social media platforms off the hook who have zero transparency and who ban many anti-establishment views. 
Who's making that argument?
Most people here are.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28099510 - 12/15/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Many people are saying it. Everybody is saying it. I keep hearing it from everybody.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28099526 - 12/15/22 08:03 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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As for the laptop, as I have said before I strongly suspect that there is no laptop. The emails/dick pics were acquired illegally by some hackers, and the laptop cover story was invented to cover up the illegal access.
Now, as far as I can tell, there is some legal confusion over the distribution of illegally acquired information. Bartniki v cooper, 2001 has some input, saying that you do have a first amendment right to play an illegal recording on the radio. but at the same time, numerous serious people, including the US attorney's office in Chicago, applies a slightly different standard, implying that acquiring hacked information is akin to receiving stolen goods, especially if there is knowledge that the information was acquired illegally.
10$ says the FBI told Twitter that there is almost certainly no laptop, and the emails were the result of a criminal hack, and Twitter legal decided that they are in the social media business, not the legal precedent business.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28099547 - 12/15/22 08:15 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Musky Kind of reminds me of back when I was a teen playing for a Halo team on XboxConnect when a newly appointed mod for the server-room went crazy with power and started rage-banning people just for shittalking him after getting the drop on him during games.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28099552 - 12/15/22 08:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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As the story goes there are three laptops. All three of which have disappeared. People that think it is interesting seem to be into the dick pics. Otherwise, there is nothing.
Just one more nothing burger from the Twitter-verse. The most interesting thing to come from Twitter is the impending downfall and lack of relevance it will have. The world will be better for it. We can thank Elon for that.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#28099556 - 12/15/22 08:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Musky Kind of reminds me of back when I was a teen playing for a Halo team on XboxConnect when a newly appointed mod for the server-room went crazy with power and started rage-banning people just for shittalking him after getting the drop on him during games. 
On Halo 2 we would set up LAN parties in the dorm. One time we got a knock on our door and it was a dude who was pissed off because we made fun of his girlfriend while playing. My buddy slammed the door in his face and we kind of chuckled. Then my other buddy ended up hooking up with her at a party.
You don't get much more gamer nerd than that. She was kind of cute though.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28099574 - 12/15/22 08:33 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Three laptops seems even less likely, unless it was a coordinated theft. The laptops might exist, but they would have been acquired the same way Project Veritas "acquired" Ashley Biden's diary: paying someone to break in and steal it.
As for twitter, I am a little less optimistic. Sure, it will die, but it will happen slowly and over time. There aren't as many viable alternatives (and I'm not counting mastodon as a true alternative, decentralized social media will never be able to fight against corporate social media in a corporate internet/regulatory environment) as there were for previous social media networks acquired by prominent right wingers to push right wing talking points (like Myspace, a few months before it died).
If a true alternative to Twitter does rise, which it eventually will, the right wing social sphere will do whatever it can to quash it and control the conversation. And then, some other right wing billionaire will buy it.
I mostly agree with Shivas assessment: this is an example of the smoothing of contradictions between market capitalism and authoritarian reactionism. Twitter will be used to preferentially push authoritarian conservative talking points to make them seem more normalized than they really are, and to ease the discomfort among capitalists (more specifically, their customers, the capitalists don't give a shit) at supporting anti-democratic authoritarian principles.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28099597 - 12/15/22 08:47 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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So now leftie "journalists" are doxxing Elon's exact coordinates in an effort to get some crazy to go and murder him or his family members
Typical leftist behavior at this point, there is no low these people won't stoop down to
They hate you and they want physical violence to befall you or your family members if you dare fight back against their ideology
How very "democratic"
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: chopstick]
#28099617 - 12/15/22 08:58 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Some journalist posted Elon's exact coordinates? Lol wut? When? Where?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: chopstick]
#28099618 - 12/15/22 08:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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His flight paths are public information. Go talk to the FAA, a real leftist organization.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28099781 - 12/15/22 11:50 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The Twitter files include actual content between Twitter employees, not just summaries. Seems like you're the one who's lying. 
Re-read what I wrote like 50 times or so and maybe you'll understand it. Its so fucking weird your misunderstanding of the English language. Seriously reread what I quoted a bunch of times, and then your response to it. It doesn't even make sense in any context. Then the use of the smirk emoji like you got one over on me really hammers home what an imbecile you are. Does it hurt when you clown yourself that hard?
I reread it. Maybe you'll have to explain yourself for a change rather than the usual, DURRR you're a big fat poo poo head.
In all seriousness though, you are constantly asking me to explain what literally everyone else who read my posts understands. I'll explain it if someone else asks, I think you intentionally misunderstand as part of your tactics of misinformation.
Everytime I ask you to explain you run like hell.
Can anyone explain for me how the Twitter files was just summaries and not actual content?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28099789 - 12/16/22 12:06 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Well, for one thing, actual content would have direct discussions and such, as opposed to some tweeted summary from some random account.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28099799 - 12/16/22 12:34 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Can anyone explain for me how the Twitter files was just summaries and not actual content?
You agree with Dorsey calling for a WikiLeaks style release of the "Twitter Files", yet at the same time you don't understand how what's been released is just summaries? I know you think I'm calling you names when I point out you are either incredibly stupid or intentionally being obtuse, but I'm just pointing out the only two possibilities posed by that first question.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9] 1
#28099884 - 12/16/22 04:36 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Bungle is no longer The World's Richest Man. Part of it is being invested in tech in this economy, which is how Jeff Bezos dropped down. But a big part of it is on him personally. He sold Tesla stock to buy Twitter. He keeps selling Tesla stock as he drives Twitter into the ground. Tesla investors are dumping it in response to his moves and the remaining investors want to know WTF he is doing, as he shows no apparent interest in his biggest holding, and only an obsession with establishing his right-wing creds.
The new richest man is a relatively low key 73 year old Frenchman named Bernard Arnault, who owns a luxury conglomerate, which has proved to be more recession proof. He lost 7 billion while Musk lost 107 billion. I wouldn't normally be talking up the man behind Christain Dior, Louis Vuitton, Moet Hennesy, Tiffany, etc., but he's built those names over decades. Mostly it come down to who I'm comparing him to.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Brian Jones]
#28099901 - 12/16/22 05:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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$44billion+ would've gone a ways towards a permanenet moon colony. I guess Musk figured the power gained from controlling tweets was more important, or something (more likely something).
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Brian Jones]
#28099903 - 12/16/22 05:26 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Can anyone explain for me how the Twitter files was just summaries and not actual content?
He sent the content to journalists who wrote a summary of it with bits and pieces included. Where's the rest of these discussions?
Also where's the Twitter files for this ElonJet scandal? I'd like to see the reasoning behind that. I imagine there was no discussion just Elon saying what he wants. If I post something showing that Twitter HQ is where it has always been I guess I can get suspended now.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kizzle]
#28099934 - 12/16/22 06:22 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28099951 - 12/16/22 06:35 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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 What a goon
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