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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094551 - 12/12/22 01:20 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: The government is free to tell anyone what they would like censored. Twitter is under no obligation to follow their requests.
I suppose you're right. Why would Twitter, whose top lawyer was former FBI, and whose CEO was grilled by Congress for posting what they called misinformation, do what the Government asks? 
I suppose you have evidence proving that Twitter did, in fact, do what the government said under coercion? Perhaps a signed document detailing the specifics of what Twitter would do, and what unpleasant consequences they would face if they did not?
Or is this just a fishing expedition?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28094553 - 12/12/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
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We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
Source or make believe?
Read my post. The FBI works with Twitter to tell them about 'misinformation' like the Biden laptop.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28094555 - 12/12/22 01:26 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I’m not sure how y’all managed it, but you and chop somehow convinced yourselves that people like Trump and Musk are going against the grain of the US government by being reactionary capitalist blowhards.
No, I think that Twitter will stop taking censorship requests from the US Government. I don't believe Musk is a good guy that doesn't have his own interests in mind.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28094561 - 12/12/22 01:31 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Elon has now put a huge target on the back of his former employee. Really gross shit here.
And just to be clear the first article is about ADULT (18+) students and a law that says they are not legally capable of consenting to sex with their ADULT teachers. As for the second tweet, it is 100% a fact that lots of kids use Grindr to hook up and essentially Grindr looks the other way. You just have to say you’re 18. Not really a great way to deal with the significant problem of having a lot of underage kids lying about their age and interacting with adults on a sex oriented adult app.
You can’t even talk about these issues anymore without risking your life and career
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28094563 - 12/12/22 01:31 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: I suppose you have evidence proving that Twitter did, in fact, do what the government said under coercion?
You don't consider a grilling by Congress to censor more information coersion?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094586 - 12/12/22 02:00 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Being asked questions is coercion now? If so, there are a whole lot more people in prison today because of coerced confessions than we already knew about.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094591 - 12/12/22 02:05 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
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We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
Source or make believe?
Read my post. The FBI works with Twitter to tell them about 'misinformation' like the Biden laptop.
Source or make believe? (And by source, I don’t mean your own posts.)
Are you intentionally lying about this or are you just a low information News consumer? I’m assuming the first because you lie a lot and you’re not stupid.

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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28094671 - 12/12/22 03:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I’m not sure how y’all managed it, but you and chop somehow convinced yourselves that people like Trump and Musk are going against the grain of the US government by being reactionary capitalist blowhards.
No, I think that Twitter will stop taking censorship requests from the US Government. I don't believe Musk is a good guy that doesn't have his own interests in mind.
Given that you’ve been wrong about basically everything regarding this twitter/musk saga, maybe your new goalpost of “okay he’s still doing censorship but only because of his own interests and not the government’s” will bear fruit.
Good luck! After all, it’s virtually impossible to prove a negative, so no one will be able to prove you wrong on this new narrative you’ve carved out.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28094676 - 12/12/22 03:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Lol he’s gonna be trump in five years he’s so fragile
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods] 1
#28094714 - 12/12/22 03:35 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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“Yeah everyone hates me bc they’re triggered lefties” should be a pivot reserved for disgraced twitch streamers and ex Newsmax anchors, it’s so funny that the Tony Stark-level genius and richest man in the world is using it.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28094716 - 12/12/22 03:37 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone that would waste their time in an audience that Musk is addressing is unhinged. And listening to him prattle won't remedy their confusion.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#28095098 - 12/12/22 08:21 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Given that you’ve been wrong about basically everything regarding this twitter/musk saga, maybe your new goalpost of “okay he’s still doing censorship but only because of his own interests and not the government’s” will bear fruit.
Good luck! After all, it’s virtually impossible to prove a negative, so no one will be able to prove you wrong on this new narrative you’ve carved out.
The level of butthurt emanating from you is crippling.
Wow, a billionaire did something good for the world. But all billionaires are inherently evil. How did this happen? I think I'll just go and attack anyone that says anything even the slightest bit positive about Elon Musk. Since you know, I am incapable of comprehending anyone who doesn't join me in my abject hatred of this particular man.
Wow, imagine wanting to take a fair attitude towards someone instead of immediately following the herd and condemning them to be burned at the stake!
Fun fact about Elon, he has accomplished and will accomplish more in his lifetime than all of us here combined. You can bitch and moan about him but he is improving your future at the same time. The irony 
Also, about the whole censorship thing. It was 100x worse under the prior leadership. That's a fact and no amount of grandstanding, semantics and twisting around of logic in this thread will change that. Boo fucking hoo for some loser Antifa accounts that got caught threatening somebody.
Get over it
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: chopstick]
#28095114 - 12/12/22 08:30 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I honestly don’t know how you keep one upping yourself but here we are.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Enlil]
#28095129 - 12/12/22 08:35 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Being asked questions is coercion now? If so, there are a whole lot more people in prison today because of coerced confessions than we already knew about.
Jack Dorsey supported the takeover by Elon Musk and has called for all files on Government meddling to be released. He was obviously coerced as CEO.
And yes, there are many innocent people in prison today because of coerced confessions. My wife tells me about it all the time as crime documentaries are her one of her favorite subjects to watch.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28095139 - 12/12/22 08:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Read my post. The FBI works with Twitter to tell them about 'misinformation' like the Biden laptop.
Source or make believe? (And by source, I don’t mean your own posts.)
Read The Twitter Files Part 3 #18 and #19 if you don't trust my copy/paste of what it said.
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koods said: Are you intentionally lying about this or are you just a low information News consumer? I’m assuming the first because you lie a lot and you’re not stupid.
See above.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28095148 - 12/12/22 08:45 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: I suppose you have evidence proving that Twitter did, in fact, do what the government said under coercion?
You don't consider a grilling by Congress to censor more information coersion?
No that's called free speech. People are allowed to ask questions and express concerns and so are the politicians that represent them. Twitter asked for information from the government because it's more reliable than getting it from Elon Musk, which is the source it will use now.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28095149 - 12/12/22 08:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Given that you’ve been wrong about basically everything regarding this twitter/musk saga, maybe your new goalpost of “okay he’s still doing censorship but only because of his own interests and not the government’s” will bear fruit.
Good luck! After all, it’s virtually impossible to prove a negative, so no one will be able to prove you wrong on this new narrative you’ve carved out.
There's not any new narrative. 
I said I thought he would uncensor people who weren't violating the law, because free speech would be popular with Twitter users, not because he's some kind of altruist.
If he doesn't uncensor people like Garland Nixon, I'll admit I was wrong, but people are indeed coming back. As I said before, I wished he'd be clearer on his timeline.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28095153 - 12/12/22 08:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol he’s gonna be trump in five years he’s so fragile

Here's a video from someone who said it was about 90% cheers and 10% boos.
https://twitter.com/bogeyorangutan/status/1602328557061300224
I'd say that's about right from listening to the video.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28095162 - 12/12/22 08:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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chopstick said: Also, about the whole censorship thing. It was 100x worse under the prior leadership. That's a fact and no amount of grandstanding, semantics and twisting around of logic in this thread will change that. Boo fucking hoo for some loser Antifa accounts that got caught threatening somebody.
Get over it
Exactly. It's weird how less censorship, even if it turns out not to be what he originally promised, triggers so many people.
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christopera said: I honestly don’t know how you keep one upping yourself but here we are.
^^^Never argues the point, but a master of generic insults.^^^
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kizzle]
#28095167 - 12/12/22 08:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: that's called free speech. People are allowed to ask questions and express concerns and so are the politicians that represent them.
Is free speech forcing Social Media CEOs to come to Congress to get grilled about not censoring enough?
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Kizzle said: Twitter asked for information from the government because it's more reliable than getting it from Elon Musk, which is the source it will use now.
Oh really, you think Musk will now monitor/control all 500 million tweets per day?
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