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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28093517 - 12/11/22 03:25 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: It’s crazy that he’s actually tweeting shit like this.

Looks like he borrowed a page out of Tucker Swanson Carlson's go to LCD playbook.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28093656 - 12/11/22 05:03 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Elon musk was never going to be able to offer the kind of free speech you want. We’re laughing at the simping and how gullible you and Greenwald are.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I've already said if the accounts aren't restored, I was wrong about Twitter.

https://twitter.com/GarlandNixon https://twitter.com/chadloder https://twitter.com/crimethinc
They're starting to come back:
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle
Twitter announced it wants to reinstate 62,000 accounts with over 10,000 followers. I'd prefer they gave a clear timeline, but that's a lot of accounts to review to ensure it won't get them into legal trouble internationally.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28093661 - 12/11/22 05:05 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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koods said:

Musk is under the spell of the people that Twitter used to not want as customers
Or perhaps you're under the spell of the people that Twitter used to want as customers?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094377 - 12/12/22 09:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Ah, yes. The spell of people who are *checks notes* not being shitty to others due to their skin color or religion. Terrible, terrible magicks.
In other news, Twitter has apparently shadowbanned the guy that was tracking Elon Musk's private plane, and is now putting "sensitive/dangerous content" flags on any tweets that mention mastodon.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28094380 - 12/12/22 09:48 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28094400 - 12/12/22 10:05 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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They are charging more for check marks if you buy them through the iOS app store. Not an uncommon business practice, actually, but it surely is going to piss a lot of people off. People that don't want to log in and pay for a check mark via the website. Like certain members here that don't understand that you can just go to the website and read Tweets.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28094441 - 12/12/22 11:14 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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For anyone that cares about free speech:
Twitter Files Part 1
Twitter Files Part 2
Twitter Files Part 3
Twitter Files Part 4
We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.

Here's just a few more excerpts from Part 3:
18. Policy Director Nick Pickles is asked if they should say Twitter detects “misinfo” through “ML, human review, and **partnerships with outside experts?*” The employee asks, “I know that’s been a slippery process… not sure if you want our public explanation to hang on that.”
19. Pickles quickly asks if they could “just say “partnerships.” After a pause, he says, “e.g. not sure we’d describe the FBI/DHS as experts.”
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094442 - 12/12/22 11:16 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Figure out how to use the internet.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28094446 - 12/12/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Can you explain how that comment is relevant to my post, or is this yet another case of you not being able to discuss the topic, so you'll make another generic insult instead?
Or just answer this: Are you ok with the Government telling Twitter what they want censored?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094449 - 12/12/22 11:25 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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How about 28-31 in part 3 that were deleted?
Where did they go?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094465 - 12/12/22 11:42 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Or just answer this: Are you ok with the Government telling Twitter what they want censored?
The government is free to tell anyone what they would like censored. Twitter is under no obligation to follow their requests.
The problem is when the government uses the justice department to enforce their opinions. Like, for example, if the government opened criminal inquiries into companies that refuse to do business with Elon Musk and Desantis.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28094467 - 12/12/22 11:44 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Nice dodge of the questions!
Based on the comments, it's possible he got two different John Bashams mixed up.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28094471 - 12/12/22 11:50 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: The government is free to tell anyone what they would like censored. Twitter is under no obligation to follow their requests.
I suppose you're right. Why would Twitter, whose top lawyer was former FBI, and whose CEO was grilled by Congress for posting what they called misinformation, do what the Government asks?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094475 - 12/12/22 11:54 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Nice dodge of the questions!
Based on the comments, it's possible he got two different John Bashams mixed up.
I wasn't interested in answering your question because it was silly. You already know what the correct answer is. There is an entire amendment dedicated to it, it might even be like #1.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28094478 - 12/12/22 11:56 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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So you're not ok with the Government telling Twitter what to censor?
Just making sure so I don't misinterpret you.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094479 - 12/12/22 11:56 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28094481 - 12/12/22 11:58 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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koods said: Elon musk was never going to be able to offer the kind of free speech you want. We’re laughing at the simping and how gullible you and Greenwald are.

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shivas.wisdom said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I've already said if the accounts aren't restored, I was wrong about Twitter.

https://twitter.com/GarlandNixon https://twitter.com/chadloder https://twitter.com/crimethinc
They're starting to come back:
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle
Twitter announced it wants to reinstate 62,000 accounts with over 10,000 followers. I'd prefer they gave a clear timeline, but that's a lot of accounts to review to ensure it won't get them into legal trouble internationally.
And the Biden administration wants to give union rail workers sick leave.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28094485 - 12/12/22 12:02 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Kryptos said: The government is free to tell anyone what they would like censored. Twitter is under no obligation to follow their requests.
I suppose you're right. Why would Twitter, whose top lawyer was former FBI, and whose CEO was grilled by Congress for posting what they called misinformation, do what the Government asks? 
Why would Elon Musk, whose entire bank account is propped up by federal contracts, reverse this?
I mean

I’m not sure how y’all managed it, but you and chop somehow convinced yourselves that people like Trump and Musk are going against the grain of the US government by being reactionary capitalist blowhards.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28094494 - 12/12/22 12:16 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Any minute now Elon will return all those carbon credits and shut down Tesla.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28094544 - 12/12/22 01:09 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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We clearly see that the FBI had regular meetings with Twitter telling them what they wanted censored.
Source or make believe?
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