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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28069010 - 11/25/22 03:17 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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So how do you know they censored more of that content? Any sources or is this all anecdotal?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#28069111 - 11/25/22 04:19 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: It's weird how I've been fighting censorship for years, and everyone keeps telling me that private companies have a right to censor, and now when a private company is choosing to allow free speech, people are melting.
You got that backwards - people are laughing at your sudden pivot to defending censorship (see: Russian censorship laws; Twitter under Elon Musk) whenever you perceive the censorship in question as beneficial.
Go ahead and quote those melting posts you refer to - I know you certainly won't find any from me - but I can find numerous occasions where you argue in favour of courts determining legitimate speech or that impersonation is a ban worthy TOS violation, because the censorship in question suits you.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28069119 - 11/25/22 04:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Ok fine, more conservative content creators were banned. Is it a really stretch to believe that conservative content creators who were banned created conservative content?
They know the terms of use....
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28069616 - 11/25/22 11:43 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I guess this is acceptable now
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28069778 - 11/26/22 06:26 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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This LGBT grooming thing is turning into the new birther or election denial line, to cultivate irrational fear in the target audience.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Brian Jones]
#28069786 - 11/26/22 06:40 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, David Pakman had a good piece on after that club got shot up. He played a Fox News clip and instantly the host called the entire LGBQT community "groomers." It's utter nonsense.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28069807 - 11/26/22 07:24 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Herschel Walker was all over it. Tucker Carlson said violence and cruelty should always horrify us, in reference to the club shootings, and then liberal outlets reminded TC that he has been grooming his audience to the LGBT threat.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Brian Jones]
#28069825 - 11/26/22 07:49 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Conservative news characters are just a bunch of closeted queers too afraid of their made up TV personality to come out.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28069898 - 11/26/22 09:22 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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My friend works for one of the big networks as a reporter, and he’s totally out at work but his public persona shows no signs of being gay. There are a LOT of LGBT people in the media and politics who are openly gay in their private lives but not their public lives.
My friend has totally different mannerisms and style of speaking when he’s on TV. The TV version is kind of a a slightly made up character.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28069949 - 11/26/22 10:26 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Is that not pretty common regardless of sexual orientation?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#28070966 - 11/27/22 12:34 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: It's weird how I've been fighting censorship for years, and everyone keeps telling me that private companies have a right to censor, and now when a private company is choosing to allow free speech, people are melting.
You got that backwards - people are laughing at your sudden pivot to defending censorship (see: Russian censorship laws; Twitter under Elon Musk) whenever you perceive the censorship in question as beneficial.
You'll have to help me remember what Twitter censorship I support. And I don't support Russian censorship, I simply stated that it's better for Russia to block intentionally fake news than for the US to block real news.
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shivas.wisdom said: Go ahead and quote those melting posts you refer to - I know you certainly won't find any from me
Anyone arguing against the added free speech that is coming on Twitter is melting.
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shivas.wisdom said: - but I can find numerous occasions where you argue in favour of courts determining legitimate speech or that impersonation is a ban worthy TOS violation, because the censorship in question suits you.
As I've said before, I'm ok with certain types of things being censored, including defamation, child porn, etc, but generally the law already agrees with me. It's freedom of opinion that I think shouldn't be censored.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28071214 - 11/27/22 07:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I don't support Russian censorship, I simply stated that it's better for Russia to block intentionally fake news than for the US to block real news.
Anyone arguing against the added free speech that is coming on Twitter is melting.
As I've said before, I'm ok with certain types of things being censored, including defamation, child porn, etc, but generally the law already agrees with me. It's freedom of opinion that I think shouldn't be censored.
Read that outloud and you are going realize how ridiculous you sound.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28071316 - 11/27/22 09:58 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I don't like censorship, only the kind deemed fake by an oligarchy during a war of aggression.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
#28071505 - 11/27/22 12:51 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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christopera said: Read that outloud and you are going realize how ridiculous you sound.
I missed it. Maybe you can help explain the ridiculous part?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28071523 - 11/27/22 01:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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christopera said: Read that outloud and you are going realize how ridiculous you sound.
I missed it. Maybe you can help explain the ridiculous part?
Don't sweat it chief, no one expects self awareness from you.
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Ice9 said: So how do you know they censored more of that content? Any sources or is this all anecdotal?
Ever planning on answering this?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
#28071580 - 11/27/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Ice9 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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christopera said: Read that outloud and you are going realize how ridiculous you sound.
I missed it. Maybe you can help explain the ridiculous part?
Don't sweat it chief, no one expects self awareness from you.
So no answer again. Got it.
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Ice9 said:
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Ice9 said: So how do you know they censored more of that content? Any sources or is this all anecdotal?
Ever planning on answering this?
I answered here.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28071601 - 11/27/22 02:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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so... all anecdotal. Good to know.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28071603 - 11/27/22 02:02 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Ice9 said:
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Ice9 said: So how do you know they censored more of that content? Any sources or is this all anecdotal?
Ever planning on answering this?
I answered here.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: So no answer again. Got it.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28071846 - 11/27/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Yes, it's a stretch. People who challenged the establishment narrative got banned, such as Garland Nixon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Zero Hedge, etc.
People who posted pro-Russia videos on Twitter like what some of us shared from Telegram got banned.
The establishment is terrified of the truth getting out, and is trying (quite successfully) to get people to oppose free speech.
It's weird how I've been fighting censorship for years, and everyone keeps telling me that private companies have a right to censor, and now when a private company is choosing to allow free speech, people are melting.

You are the biggest defender of state censorship on this site. I don’t think there is anyone else around here that thinks a government should be criminalizing speech except you. Twitter banning people who violate the TOS is bad, but Russia banning Twitter entirely is good. You are not an advocate for free speech, you are an advocate for speech you agree with
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28071849 - 11/27/22 04:47 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Ice9 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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christopera said: Read that outloud and you are going realize how ridiculous you sound.
I missed it. Maybe you can help explain the ridiculous part?
Don't sweat it chief, no one expects self awareness from you.
So no answer again. Got it.
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Ice9 said:
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Ice9 said: So how do you know they censored more of that content? Any sources or is this all anecdotal?
Ever planning on answering this?
I answered here.
Are you going to answer the question or not? How do you know they censored more conservative content? Show us the facts.
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