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Enlil
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28057958 - 11/18/22 09:49 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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A quote from your linked article:
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a report published by MIT showed that Twitter lost over 1 million accounts ever since he took over.
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We have observed an uptick in people deactivating their accounts and also Twitter suspending accounts," said Christopher Bouzy, founder of the anti-disinformation and bot tracker platform Bot Sentinel.
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As per the report, 3.1 million accounts on Twitter were analysed, out of which around 877,000 accounts were deactivated and a further 497,000 were suspended between October 27 and November 1. "That's more than double the usual number," it said.
Musk may be able to leverage his lies. He's done it before. That won't ultimately save twitter though.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Enlil]
#28057971 - 11/18/22 09:56 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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a report published by MIT showed that Twitter lost over 1 million accounts ever since he took over.
We're talking about two different things. Must is talking about Daily Active Users, MIT is talking about the number of accounts.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28058389 - 11/18/22 03:10 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: With 75% of his workers gone from Twitter I think Twitter is gonna be fucked.
I think he'll be able to leverage the recent boom in usage.
"Hope Servers Don't Melt": Elon Musk Claims Twitter Usage Is All-Time High
People love watching a car accident. I doubt those new people are monetizable. Which, being a business, is what he actually needs. Not click through from a news site because Twitter is the topic du jour.
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Sulfurshelfsean
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28058589 - 11/18/22 04:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: With 75% of his workers gone from Twitter I think Twitter is gonna be fucked.
I think he'll be able to leverage the recent boom in usage.
"Hope Servers Don't Melt": Elon Musk Claims Twitter Usage Is All-Time High
That's great but if no one's around running the site I think thats more of a reason to be worried about the servers lol. And what does that have to do with his ponzi scheme? His ponzi scheme is doing good even though there's no one to run it?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28058619 - 11/18/22 04:57 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Musk just tweeted that he will not allow Alex Jones back
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28059538 - 11/19/22 06:44 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Free speech is now voted on by the masses.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28059630 - 11/19/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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But only in certain cases where Musk stands to benefit.
Gotta love a Twitter poll. More secure than any election. So many rigorous steps to prevent fraudulent votes.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kickle]
#28061024 - 11/20/22 01:15 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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One of his goals is to reduce Twitter bots.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28061092 - 11/20/22 03:06 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like Twitter now requires government ID to deactivate you account.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28061184 - 11/20/22 06:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: One of his goals is to reduce Twitter bots. 
There is a long track record of Elon telling big lies to boost his business ventures. Promising the moon, or maybe more specifically Mars, and then delivering something far less grand or not delivering anything at all.
If you believe the tall tales he spews at this point then imo you're naive. He's a poster child for the way the tech world pitches to ignorant investors. No government subsidy to sell to other companies this time though.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28061194 - 11/20/22 06:49 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Looks like Twitter now requires government ID to deactivate you account.
Do you need it to start an account?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kickle]
#28061196 - 11/20/22 06:52 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: One of his goals is to reduce Twitter bots. 
There is a long track record of Elon telling big lies to boost his business ventures. Promising the moon, or maybe more specifically Mars, and then delivering something far less grand or not delivering anything at all.
If you believe the tall tales he spews at this point then imo you're naive. He's a poster child for the way the tech world pitches to ignorant investors.
Agreed 100%. They love to put these liars up on a pedestal. They see themselves and their own dishonesty in Elon and they love it.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28061199 - 11/20/22 06:58 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Looks like Twitter now requires government ID to deactivate you account.
Do you need it to start an account?
What’s twitter?
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: mushboy]
#28061755 - 11/20/22 01:48 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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No clue, Ive never used it. Everything I see on their website is trash and crypto scams trying to rally lemmings.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28061790 - 11/20/22 02:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Looks like Twitter now requires government ID to deactivate you account.
Do you need it to start an account?
No. Just to deactivate your account.
Guessing Elon Musk found a back way to make some money selling data.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28061794 - 11/20/22 02:11 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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How can that sort of change be implemented when no one agreed to that as a term of service when creating the account? Seems ripe for privacy lawsuits.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kickle]
#28061800 - 11/20/22 02:14 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Twitter is currently under an FTC consent decree because of mishandling user data. That's one of the things that is likely going to fuck over Elon in the near future, since his head of data security resigned. Meaning he is no longer in compliance with the decree.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
#28061809 - 11/20/22 02:18 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Dude's way over his head. Seems like he is used to bullying his staff and now trying to bully Twitter users into staying on the platform. The only possible value the platform has is in the user base. If there is a mass exodus it's game over.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kickle]
#28061832 - 11/20/22 02:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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That only means that the number of accounts will no longer be a factor to advertisers. Instead, they'll look at activity.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Enlil]
#28061838 - 11/20/22 02:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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If I were an advertiser I wouldn't even trust that data. Not without some impressive assurances. Musk lies all the time and will double speak with the best of them. He already acknowledged the problem with fake accounts and bots. But my money would be on him using dirty data to make revenue. Dirty here meaning knowingly inflated by non-users.
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