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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28030738 - 11/03/22 06:38 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Conspiracy theorists crack me up.  They go on and on about people not looking at Seth Rich's laptop, as if that is de facto proof a conspiracy.  They completely ignore the fact that the reluctance to examine the laptop makes 100% sense if it is viewed as a massive waste of resources due to it being completely unrelated to anything.  It would be like me asking Falcon to dig up his whole yard by shovel to prove to me Jimmy Hoffa's corpse isn't buried there, and when he justifiably says screw you, me screaming and pointing at him going "AHA WE HAVE FOUND HOFFA'S BODY"

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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
    #28030749 - 11/03/22 06:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

The entire Seth Rich thing is unfortunate. The conspiracy has put his family under a lot of pressure and Fox News ultimately had to settle with them over their false claims.

Then people like Fal just can't let it go.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/15/1104511732/fox-news-seth-rich-murder

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After Seth's death, many people offered to aid the Riches. Some carried hidden motivations. A man with ties to Fox News who promised to help the Riches solve their son's murder, for example, later plotted to tap their phones and hack their computers to find "the truth" about Seth, according to a sworn deposition.

That revelation was, Joel and Mary Rich say, a fresh nightmare.

"You're going, 'Oh my God, it can't be'," Mary Rich says. "And you've been taken advantage of. You're a total sucker. You're a pawn in the game. And I think every day: Who's going to bug us? What's coming at us? I will always think that."




That's a lot of fun.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28031038 - 11/03/22 11:40 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Elon Musk, famed champion of free speech, appears to temporarily shut down AOC's Twitter after she disagreed with his paid verification plan.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
    #28031085 - 11/03/22 12:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Elon Musk, famed champion of free speech, appears to temporarily shut down AOC's Twitter after she disagreed with his paid verification plan.




There shouldn’t be verified users unless they actually matter.
What the fuck is a blue checkmark next to some random fucking moron?
Twitter can just die already


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: 4-HO-Gumbo]
    #28031088 - 11/03/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

It means their identity is verified. It prevents others from creating fake accounts because everyone knows which account is real.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
    #28031117 - 11/03/22 12:44 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Let's get some VC and make The Shroomery the new Twitter. No blue checkmarks, just mushrooms and crazy fuckers that post too often. We are going to take over the world!


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
    #28031126 - 11/03/22 12:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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It means their identity is verified. It prevents others from creating fake accounts because everyone knows which account is real.




I get that for celebs and politicians etc, but there’s lots of random douchebags with blue checks that nobody gives a fuck about, and they seem to usually be left of center.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: 4-HO-Gumbo]
    #28031233 - 11/03/22 02:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah, they're usually journalists.

And Twitter actually has a documented right wing bias.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28031906 - 11/03/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.



Oh ya, I saw the US Intelligence report about Russian interference in the election saying "CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence".  The report is completely lacking in evidence; it is based solely on judgments based on past "Russian behavior".  But that's good enough for you!  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28031909 - 11/03/22 10:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Conspiracy theorists crack me up.  They go on and on about people not looking at Seth Rich's laptop, as if that is de facto proof a conspiracy.



Apparently, you aren't reading my posts.

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I'm not saying Seth Rich did anything, the Proof isn't conclusive one way or another.  I'm saying there is no definitive proof Russia did it; only wishful thinking.




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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28032540 - 11/04/22 11:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Ice9 said:
Conspiracy theorists crack me up.  They go on and on about people not looking at Seth Rich's laptop, as if that is de facto proof a conspiracy.



Apparently, you aren't reading my posts.






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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
    #28032548 - 11/04/22 12:03 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Crowdstrike all like, hey we have an article on our website that says Russia did it. Fal is all, "there's no proof."


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28032646 - 11/04/22 01:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Crowdstrike all like, hey we have an article on our website that says Russia did it. Fal is all, "there's no proof."




Since when was an article proof? What is their proof? I've seen scant evidence that Russia did much at all.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28032678 - 11/04/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Crowdstrike all like, hey we have an article on our website that says Russia did it. Fal is all, "there's no proof."



You think someone saying "Russia did it" is proof?  Never mind, of course you do.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28032695 - 11/04/22 02:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Well let’s put it this way. There is crowdstrike that conducted an independent investigation using experts and professionals and they state they have proof. They even presented it to the public. Then there is you that doesn’t understand how the internet works and has proved it many times.

Who do we think we should trust? Your argument is basically “I am not an expert but [insert opinion here]”


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28032722 - 11/04/22 02:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Well let’s put it this way. There is crowdstrike that conducted an independent investigation using experts and professionals and they state they have proof. They even presented it to the public.



Yes, and many experts and professionals then called it bullshit.

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Then there is you that doesn’t understand how the internet works and has proved it many times.



You say that all the time, but that doesn't mean you are correct.  Saying I disagree that social media should censor political content doesn't mean I don't know how the internet works.

In fact, it's pretty clear you don't know how the world works.  Do you really expect the Crowdstrike CEO to come out and say "Ya, our company is a fraud, but we got paid by the DNC"?  It's like when the DNC funded the Steele Dossier that turned out to be a bunch of lies.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28032743 - 11/04/22 03:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Some real weak sauce there. Do you have a pertinent piece of information from Ray that would apply here? Or is it more confirmation bias from the guy that doesn't understand the internet.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28032754 - 11/04/22 03:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Some real weak sauce there. Do you have a pertinent piece of information from Ray that would apply here? Or is it more confirmation bias from the guy that doesn't understand the internet.



Are you saying Ray McGovern, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, doesn't know anything about the internet?

And as I just explained, just because you say I don't understand the internet, doesn't mean it's true.  How about if I call you a genius or stupid, would that make it true?  :flowstone:


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28032758 - 11/04/22 03:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Well let’s put it this way. There is crowdstrike that conducted an independent investigation using experts and professionals and they state they have proof. They even presented it to the public.



Yes, and many experts and professionals then called it bullshit.




This your proof?  I suggest you actually read this article and not the headline.  The author here drawing conclusions that the listed testimony doesn't in any way support.  The correct conclusion a reader should make is the author is full of bs, or trying to get clicks, or pushing an agenda. 
I suspect based on the headline it is the last, as the author knows people only read headlines.  Even if people read the article, many people lack the education required to critically read a kids book.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28032765 - 11/04/22 03:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Some real weak sauce there. Do you have a pertinent piece of information from Ray that would apply here? Or is it more confirmation bias from the guy that doesn't understand the internet.



Are you saying Ray McGovern, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer, doesn't know anything about the internet?





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