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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28029852 - 11/02/22 05:52 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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It wasn’t the liberals actually threatening these companies if they didn’t do what the government wanted. It was people like Donald Trump, who repeatedly called for companies to be lose their liability protections and be forced to platform content and people that had been banned. How do you not remember this. It was a constant drumbeat of threats for years.
Exactly. As PRESIDENT Trump used his position to literally and actually impinge on constitutional rights.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28029922 - 11/02/22 06:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: It wasn’t the liberals actually threatening these companies if they didn’t do what the government wanted. It was people like Donald Trump, who repeatedly called for companies to be lose their liability protections and be forced to platform content and people that had been banned. How do you not remember this. It was a constant drumbeat of threats for years.
That was the Democratic talking point. Now we know they were pressured to censor content.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28029942 - 11/02/22 06:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Trump literally signed an executive order to punish social media companies via the FCC in the same week Twitter marked two of his bogus tweets as erroneous.
You really have no idea how the internet works.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera] 1
#28030019 - 11/02/22 07:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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We now know how it works. The Government infiltrates social media companies to censor content that doesn't fit its narrative.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030109 - 11/02/22 08:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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just censor why not push some ideas do we have any examples from around 2016ish??
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: mushboy] 1
#28030167 - 11/02/22 08:28 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said: why not push some ideas do we have any examples from around 2016ish??
The mainstream media pushed the whole Russia Gate conspiracy started by Hillary.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030171 - 11/02/22 08:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030173 - 11/02/22 08:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Which turned out to be true.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030180 - 11/02/22 08:33 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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mushboy said: why not push some ideas do we have any examples from around 2016ish??
The mainstream media pushed the whole Russia Gate conspiracy started by Hillary.
the thread in that link is like a time machine to mentally unstable banned people. the memories.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Enlil]
#28030191 - 11/02/22 08:37 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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4D chess featuring the Donald as on unwitting Kremlin pawn.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Enlil]
#28030193 - 11/02/22 08:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Which turned out to be true.
Not according to Mueller.
Just like weapons of mass destruction weren't found in Iraq, according to Bush.
But you still believe both because you refuse to wrong about anything.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030213 - 11/02/22 08:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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And RT is a beacon of truth in a world gone mad.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030214 - 11/02/22 08:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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There is a pending criminal case
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030275 - 11/02/22 09:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said: why not push some ideas do we have any examples from around 2016ish??
The mainstream media pushed the whole Russia Gate conspiracy started by Hillary.
The Russiagate conspiracy started when Russia hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign and stole private emails.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28030311 - 11/02/22 09:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: The Russiagate conspiracy started when Russia hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign and stole private emails.
There's still serious doubt as to whether Russia leaked the DNC emails.
Interestingly, now there's this:
-FBI states they have CDs with images of Seth Rich's laptop -Images were provided to them by local law enforcement -FBI did not open an investigation into the murder of Seth Rich -FBI did not provide investigative or technical assistance to any other investigation of Seth Rich. -FBI had no involvement in the extraction of data from Seth Rich’s personal laptop -And therefore, there was never a need for the FBI to access the information contained on the compact disc for investigative purposes. -These CD's have not been converted to a format that can be used for FOIA releases -They estimate processing the data into such a format would amount to 400,000 pages, plus images and videos. -They are requesting that if the court orders them to process the data and release all of this material, that the rate of production be limited to 500 pages per month.
That means it will take (400,000 pages x 1 mo/500 pages x 1 year/12 mo) = 66.7 years to extract the data from his computer.
But nothing unusual here, right? Of course not.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030358 - 11/02/22 10:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Fake news. Seth rich has nothing to do with the hacking. What is the relevance of his computer? And the FBI doesn’t investigate murders in DC. The MPD does. The mueller report lays out in pretty good detail how and who did the hacking and it was Russians.
But you still believe otherwise because you refuse to be wrong about anything
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28030366 - 11/02/22 10:36 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Also why does someone think they have a right to view the contents of someone’s personal computer. Just because the FBI is in possession of it doesn’t mean it is subject to an FOIA request. It’s not evidence in any case and not part of any investigation.
I imagine the FBI would need a warrant to even look at the contents
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Edited by koods (11/02/22 10:39 PM)
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28030423 - 11/03/22 12:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Fake news.
You're definitely wrong about that. My link includes the court documents.
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koods said: Seth rich has nothing to do with the hacking.
How do you know that? Did you analyze his computer?
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koods said: The mueller report lays out in pretty good detail how and who did the hacking and it was Russians.
The DNC never gave their server to the Government (nothing to see here either right?) And the Crowdstrike CEO gave sworn testimony it had no proof of Russian hack of DNC (old news).
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koods said: But you still believe otherwise because you refuse to be wrong about anything
I'm not saying Seth Rich did anything, the Proof isn't conclusive one way or another. I'm saying there is no definitive proof Russia did it; only wishful thinking.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28030570 - 11/03/22 02:13 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Why would his computer be analyzed? There’s no probable cause to suspect he had anything to do with the hacking. If you want to search private spaces and documents, you have to present probable cause that those documents will contain evidence relevant to a criminal investigation. You can’t go searching through someone’s fucking computer on a whim. You’re suggesting they investigate Seth rich for involvement in crime without any probable cause to believe he was involved. Being murdered walking home from a bar in July isn’t evidence he was involved in a crime in March at his workplace. It’s ridiculous.
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And the Crowdstrike CEO gave sworn testimony it had no proof of Russian hack of DNC (old news).
That’s not what the CEO said. He said he had no hard proof files were downloaded from the servers.
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There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn't have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made."
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The DNC never gave their server to the Government (nothing to see here either right?)
They need their server for day to day operations. The DNC gave the government a copy of the server.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
#28030678 - 11/03/22 04:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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As usual, Fal doesn't know how the internet works. The FBI doesn't provide incident response for breaches, you have to hire a professional to do that. Crowdstrike is on the record (many times) saying Russia hacked the server and they were the company that did the response. It is even on their website.
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
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Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?
Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.
Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.
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