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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036363 - 11/06/22 11:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hormone therapy is mutilation now?


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
    #28036369 - 11/06/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Elon made a claim that advertisers were being influenced by activists, and a guy who was on the phone call between advertisers and Elon replied to that tweet, saying it was not true and the reason advertisers were pulling out was because they are unsure about advertising in a platform that may contain content that is not aligned with sponsors values. In particular, they were concerned about the behavior of musk himself. He said these were all things they told musk a day earlier on their call.



They're concerned Elon won't blindly support Ukraine, and will allow free speech for a change.



No they said what their concerns were. Why are you making shit up?



Have you been living under a rock?  I've been telling you for months now how the mainstream media is blocking content about Ukraine and only publishes news supported by the ruling elite.  Your response has been to deal with it, since private companies can censor whatever they like.  :flowstone:


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: feevers]
    #28036437 - 11/06/22 12:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Hormone therapy is mutilation now?



I was referring to sex change surgeries under 18 years old.

https://cbs6albany.com/news/nation-world/new-hampshire-teen-one-of-the-youngest-to-have-gender-reassignment-surgery
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At 17 years old, Emily Tressa finally feels fully herself. Last month, she became one of the youngest patients in the country to undergo gender reassignment surgery.




Granted some of the articles were confusing about the age of the surgery, but it's clearly happening on people under 18.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036459 - 11/06/22 12:33 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Hormone therapy is mutilation now?



I was referring to sex change surgeries under 18 years old.

https://cbs6albany.com/news/nation-world/new-hampshire-teen-one-of-the-youngest-to-have-gender-reassignment-surgery
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At 17 years old, Emily Tressa finally feels fully herself. Last month, she became one of the youngest patients in the country to undergo gender reassignment surgery.




Granted some of the articles were confusing about the age of the surgery, but it's clearly happening on people under 18.



So how was the 8 year old mutilated?


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #28036550 - 11/06/22 01:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Let me repeat for you:  "some of the articles were confusing about the age of the surgery, but it's clearly happening on people under 18."


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036567 - 11/06/22 01:54 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Not if you actually read the articles you post. I read it and was not confused by anything within the article. Might keep you from misrepresenting so many things.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036602 - 11/06/22 02:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I posted the lie Tulsi Gabbard told on Twitter about children being “mutilated” by gender affirming treatments.



And I posted an article saying that she wasn't lying.
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a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.







Read the article again


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036609 - 11/06/22 02:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Let me repeat for you:  "some of the articles were confusing about the age of the surgery, but it's clearly happening on people under 18."




You just posed an article saying a 17 year old was one of the youngest to ever have the surgery. Doesn’t sound like something that happens very often.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #28036613 - 11/06/22 02:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Youngest complete sex change operation in the world happened to a German teenager in 2008. She was 16 at the time.

So unless Falcon considers puberty blockers to be "mutilation", which he probably does, he's lying again.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: koods]
    #28036628 - 11/06/22 02:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Not sure how the  legislators will handle this. Its none of my business and I don't care if one wants two dicks or 8 orifices. But an arbitrary age limit to go under the knife for these procedures should be implemented. With that, there are plenty of people over the age of 21 that don't have the maturity to drink, so who knows.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28036778 - 11/06/22 03:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Due to the nature of the procedure and the potential for harm, doctors are quite rigorous before going to surgery.  I've read that one must undergo lots of psychiatric examination, must live as the sex the wish to transition to for a long period.  This is not something that is done all willy nilly as I think some people assume.  As such, since it is a heavily considered decision, it should be left up to doctors and patients.

I am not for politicians taking away freedoms by creating laws when none are needed. I thought conservatives agreed with this, but apparently not anymore.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Ice9]
    #28036804 - 11/06/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I am not for politicians taking away freedoms by creating laws when none are needed. I thought conservatives agreed with this




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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28036820 - 11/06/22 04:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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I posted the lie Tulsi Gabbard told on Twitter about children being “mutilated” by gender affirming treatments.



And I posted an article saying that she wasn't lying.
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a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.






Treatment isn't mutilation.  He didn't say he did surgery.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28037274 - 11/06/22 08:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Not sure how the  legislators will handle this. Its none of my business and I don't care if one wants two dicks or 8 orifices. But an arbitrary age limit to go under the knife for these procedures should be implemented. With that, there are plenty of people over the age of 21 that don't have the maturity to drink, so who knows.




An age limit for permanent surgery, or at the very least, rigorous psychological and medical testing makes sense. I actually don't like the idea of an age limit because people develop at different rates, and the most successful among us tend to make life changing decisions at a young age. Gives them more time to be successful, if, for example, they decide to study math to the exclusion of literally everything else.

Restricting puberty blockers, a drug specifically designed to block permanent changes to the body at a young age to allow time for said rigorous psychological and medical testing, does not.

Unless your goal is to make the decision for a sex change as medically difficult and dangerous as possible, I don't see any reason that delaying puberty could be considered a bad thing. The whole point of puberty blockers is to give the patient time to think and consider the possible drawbacks, to ensure that someone can make an accurate decision.

To an extent, I understand why Tolkien said Hobbits are not considered full adults until they are 30. Being a bit past that age, I'd even say that we shouldn't be considered adults until we are 40...but I am not trans. On the other hand, I decided I didn't want kids at a very young age. Even before I was a teenager. That is not something that I have changed my mind on in over 20 years. So I understand that some life changing decisions can be made at a very young age.

Point is, I see absolutely no reason that using a puberty blocker to delay a decision until adulthood can be seen as a negative. Unless, again, you point is to make the eventual transition as problematic and painful as possible. To, for lack of better term, use force to restrict people's ability to make their own medical decisions.

Edit: I guess there's also the very rapey aspect of forcing people to grow up a certain gender for nefarious reasons before they get the chance to fully develop as a person, but that's more of a catholic/baptist/evangelical christian problem.


Edited by Kryptos (11/06/22 08:53 PM)


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
    #28037999 - 11/07/22 10:41 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Elon musk decides that impersonating Elon musk on Twitter is a permaban, even if you clearly label yourself a parody account.

Free speech!


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
    #28038009 - 11/07/22 10:45 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Free speech, bro. He's bringing it back.


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera]
    #28038034 - 11/07/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)



elon is now the prophet or something?? anyone barring the likeness to him is punishable by digital banishment.
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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Kryptos]
    #28038513 - 11/07/22 04:34 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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...unless Falcon considers puberty blockers to be "mutilation", which he probably does, he's lying again.



I'll say it for the 3rd time, since no one seems to read my posts:
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...some of the articles were confusing about the age of the surgery, but it's clearly happening on people under 18.



Is there any debate about whether children under 18 have gotten the surgery?


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: christopera] * 1
    #28038529 - 11/07/22 04:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Elon musk decides that impersonating Elon musk on Twitter is a permaban, even if you clearly label yourself a parody account.

Free speech!



Free speech, bro. He's bringing it back.



Maybe you guys don't understand the concept of 'verified accounts'?  :shrug:


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Re: Turns out DHS IS working with private companies to censor speech! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28038612 - 11/07/22 05:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I was popping around the web trying to understand how Twitter verification is done, and it appears to be fairly involved and includes a requirement for a government issued photo ID (driver's license or passport) and a verified phone number.  I wonder how all that works.


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