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Wild Bird Seed prep
    #28024199 - 10/30/22 09:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I got this 33lb bag for $20



Looked like pretty clean seed to me

I've only done 3 or so grows in the last 3 years or so, so I'm a bit rusty

What I use to do was bring a big pot of water to boil in my pressure cooker, remove from heat and remove lid, let sit for a second and then pour in my bird seed before replacing the lid

Let sit for 2 hours I think, then rinse outthe seed really well before straining and shaking out excess water

I use to let sit overnight before loading jars but because of time constraints I want to get it all done in one day

So I plan to leave it out to dry and shake out water then load tonight and PC my jars so I can put some agar to them

Anyone else prepping wild bird seed still and using this method?

What type of seed are you guys using?


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #28024393 - 10/30/22 12:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I would not soak for 2 hrs.
1 hr is plenty for milo, the millet would like less than that.

reverse fooman's prep is what you are doing.
It's all good.

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Jaksavage]
    #28024483 - 10/30/22 01:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Well they ended up sitting for like 2 1/2 hours because I fell asleep and then this fucking strainer let's all the milo fall through I thought would be fine because I don't have the old strainers I use to use

Fucking mess and disaster everywhere right now, super frustrating

Going to need to go to the store and buy new strainers for this to even fucking work

Stressing me the fuck out  floor covered in fucking bird seed everywhere all over fucking everything


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu] * 2
    #28024497 - 10/30/22 01:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Paint strainer for a 5 gallon bucket.


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Jaksavage] * 1
    #28024514 - 10/30/22 01:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Paint strainer for a 5 gallon bucket.




I second this, and is my favorite to use so far.

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: ruawakeyet]
    #28024526 - 10/30/22 01:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Appreciate the tip, I'll grab one, this shits a nightmare right now


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Jaksavage]
    #28024537 - 10/30/22 02:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I have just been using regular cheap stuff from Crappy Tire (Armstrong Red Ribbon).  I only have a handful of grows under my belt but soaked grain for 15-24 hrs, following that, brought just to boiling then drain and let dry for ~45 mins. Jar. PC. inoculate.

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Jaksavage]
    #28024551 - 10/30/22 02:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I have been using a couple of these strainers (amazon), they seem to do a good job and hold quite a bit.

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: TibQ]
    #28024620 - 10/30/22 02:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to stick with foomans method just because that's what I did for years and use to have good results growing lbs

Just fucking bird seed is annoying as shit to work with, makes me want to see if other grains are less messy

Jars came out a little wetter than I like. Usually would shake the jar after loading to distribute moisture and look for no grains to stick, but there's some sticking going on and can see a bit of excess moisture

Gonna start PCing and go grab something better to use for straining. Ended up hand drying with paper towels...

Hopefully the PC will dry the grains out a bit and they'll be closer to what I want before I inoculate


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28024679 - 10/30/22 03:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Not to mean any offense, but I 🤣 when I read this cause I know exactly what you were going through. My first attempt at WBS went horrible, mess all over the sink and kitchen trying to properly hydrate the grain and trying to get rid of all the corn and sunflower seeds which were so many. My grain ended up being a sticky mess when it was all said and done and I ended up tossing it to the birds in my backyard instead of even trying to use it to colonize with. I still have that same economy bag  of WBS that I haven’t touched in months 😄.  Maybe someday I’ll try again, but for now I just use Hard Winter Wheat Berries which was so much better and simpler.

Hopefully you get that WBS worked out, it’s a great cheap accessible grain, but many have a hard time getting it right



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Well they ended up sitting for like 2 1/2 hours because I fell asleep and then this fucking strainer let's all the milo fall through I thought would be fine because I don't have the old strainers I use to use

Fucking mess and disaster everywhere right now, super frustrating

Going to need to go to the store and buy new strainers for this to even fucking work

Stressing me the fuck out  floor covered in fucking bird seed everywhere all over fucking everything




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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: SimulatedMatrix33]
    #28024691 - 10/30/22 03:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i use to deal with it every time cleaning my floor of all the wbs etc, but for fuck sake. I don't have the time or patience for that shit any more

Then I loaded my jars and had them steaming for 15 min ready to place my top and start my pressure cook only to realize I never put tin foil on the tops

When I opened the top my wbs looks fucking scorched. I don't think these jars will end up too wet

Plan to PC for 90 min

Fucking disaster today, it's been so long since I've done this shit

Now I'm putting all this bad joojoo energy into my grow already... Smh


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28025045 - 10/30/22 06:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm using Foo's method and it works really well for me.  See How Foo Prepares Wild Bird Seed .

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: fungusul]
    #28025088 - 10/30/22 06:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I think I fucked up again and filed them too high

Gonna be a pain in the ass to shake..


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #28025104 - 10/30/22 07:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I use the same blend as that and I rinse in a 5 gal with hot tap water until water is clear then soak in hot tap water for 24 hours.

Strain for 10 min, load jars, PC 90 min @ 15psi

Shaking once as they come out of PC to evenly distribute moisture

Perfect every time. I also discard any floaters, so no sunflower seeds.

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: PussyFart]
    #28025119 - 10/30/22 07:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus you're still on here?

When I first started learning about growing you were one of the OG posters that kept popping up

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I've never tried soaking before

Guess it's worth trying


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28025131 - 10/30/22 07:20 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Supposedly it helps the endospores start germinating so the PC cycle is more effective.

And yea, I'm still here....took like 7 or 8 years off, but I'm back

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: PussyFart]
    #28025138 - 10/30/22 07:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I guess that makes sense

So that's suppose to help reduce risk of contam then? :strokebeard:

If so I'll definitely be giving the soak a try. I just don't like the waiting

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28025181 - 10/30/22 07:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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So that's suppose to help reduce risk of contam then? :strokebeard:




Yup

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28025277 - 10/30/22 09:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I tried rye berries and I’m back to WBS.. I rinse very well sunflower and corn should float to the top pour off. I measured 500 ml. Grain for each quart I want typically 10.. boil water dump rinsed grains soak 1 hour. rinse again till water is clear. I bought several colanders from the dollar store and dollar store tubs big enough hold them while they dry. Usually 1-1.5 hours of drying. Do the tissue test for moisture not wet. After soak I end up with 600 ml of grains per quart. I line my kitchen sink with window screen to protect my drain Lol. Love some WBS :mushroom2:

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: Enkidu]
    #28025330 - 10/30/22 09:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I do seed in the pot, add water to about 3 inches above the seed, scoop all sunflowers out, bring to a boil, stir, turn off heat, leave it for 30 mins then i do a colander drain overnight usually. This is how ive been doing 5lb bags for a couple months now. Krogers clearance wbs was .45/ lb a few months ago, wish i got more than 35lbs.


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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: dna24]
    #28026181 - 10/31/22 01:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I use their 25 pound bags. They were on sale for $16 so I bought all they had. It’s the best I have found locally available for sure. It looks like everyone has different opinions on the soak and whether you boil water or just soak. As long as everyone is happy with their results. There are many paths to the same destination. :mushroom2:

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Re: Wild Bird Seed prep [Re: intrepidtraveler33]
    #28026404 - 10/31/22 03:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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