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Bigbadwooof
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos]
#28028269 - 11/01/22 05:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Your views are pretty clear: you want to ban trans women from sports, and your reasoning is "protect the women!"
That is certainly a good idea, but... No.. I don't really give much of a fuck about that at all. Honestly... I don't really give a fuck about any of this, so... I'm removing myself from this stupid ass conversation.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28028289 - 11/01/22 05:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hey, shut up.
Let's get in the ban lottery.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: christopera]
#28028296 - 11/01/22 05:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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christopera said: Hey, shut up.
Let's get in the ban lottery.
Sounds great, after you good sir!
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28028298 - 11/01/22 05:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I can never find it on the site here, to be honest. Though I have done it many times due to other people linking to it. Let me have a look around.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: christopera]
#28028302 - 11/01/22 05:43 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28028364 - 11/01/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: When your only example is a single woman that won a swim meet by less than two seconds in a race that lasted five minutes, that's just you being offended that a trans person is good at something.
She won a 1650m race by thirty-eight seconds!
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28028379 - 11/01/22 06:18 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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That’s terrible what we need to do is ban doctors from treating trans kids and use them as political pawns to stir up the base. That’ll solve the problem of unfair sporty races that has affected tens of people across this country
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: koods] 1
#28028385 - 11/01/22 06:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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hey koods, do you think kids should be allowed to drink, smoke cigs, drive a car, get a tattoo, or own a gun?
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Kryptos
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28028639 - 11/01/22 08:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Kryptos said: When your only example is a single woman that won a swim meet by less than two seconds in a race that lasted five minutes, that's just you being offended that a trans person is good at something.
She won a 1650m race by thirty-eight seconds!
Making her sixth in the nation for women's 1650m freestyle.
You'd think she'd be first, if she was so strong and manly.
Put me up against a middle school swim team, I'm sure I could wipe the floor with them too.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336]
#28028640 - 11/01/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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336 said: hey koods, do you think kids should be allowed to drink, smoke cigs, drive a car, get a tattoo, or own a gun?
Drink, smoke, and get tattoos? sure. That doesn't affect anyone else. Driving and guns does. Right to swing fist, meet face.
In other news, gun violence is now the leading cause of death for US kids and teenagers.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos]
#28028660 - 11/01/22 08:43 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336]
#28028697 - 11/01/22 09:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Some teenager kid blew away a bunch of people a few neighborhoods down from where several of my family members live just last week. It would be one thing if this was one of the first few times but it isn't. And that's just in one area, and a damn nice one too.
The situation is fucked.
Appearances wise they've been ~ Young, white males, attending nice schools, playing sports, doing well with their studies, with friends ~ still gunning down random ass people because .... idk 
I knew 2 of the shooters (out of who knows how many # pf shooters there've been overall in my state and local area in the last 20 years alone) at some point and one of them is even off parole now and walking around living a relatively normal life some 10 years later.
Slightly different from shootings in areas where the violence is related to poverty, drugs, gangs, etc etc.
Similar end result though.
Life is weird.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336]
#28028707 - 11/01/22 09:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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336 said:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761
As of 2020, guns kill more kids than car crashes. Only in the US, though. Every other similarly wealthy peer country, guns don't crack the top four.
At least it's just kids for now, under 19s are the ones being shot to death.
Actually, the US is the only country of its peers where gun violence among children has increased in the last two decades (by 42%), every other country in the studied group saw decreases in deaths due to gun violence among children since 2000.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos] 2
#28028731 - 11/01/22 09:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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You're trying to tell me that gun violence kills more kids in the US than in places like Mexico and Afghanistan? No chance. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.
That said I wasn't really disagreeing with that, I was disagreeing with the idea that it's cool to let underage people drink and smoke, get tats, drive cars, and own guns and get surgeries / take hormones to permanently alter their body because they feel like the opposite sex/gender.
Now I will admit the closer to 18/21 someone gets the less I feel like it's my business to 'protect them from themselves', however, when it comes to the permanent damage that comes with gender reassignment surgery and hormone blockers and shit like that I kinda feel shouldn't be legal till 18-21. If people want to do it so bad that they go for it illegally than part of me supports that tho.
tbh i'm conflicted tho. I don't like the law telling us what to do, but I also do think that underage people should probably be protected, from themselves, and from others.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336]
#28028751 - 11/01/22 10:02 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Mexico has roughly 50% more gun deaths per capita compared to the US. Afghanistan is about 5x safer than the US, when it comes to gun violence.
Keep in mind that most of the guns used to kill people in Mexico are smuggled in from the US. There is exactly one gun store in Mexico, and it is owned by the Mexican Army, and every purchase is strictly monitored. Everything else comes across the border from Texas.
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336 said: when it comes to the permanent damage that comes with gender reassignment surgery and hormone blockers
It's interesting that you lump surgery, a permanent physical change, with hormone blockers, which explicitly prevent a permanent change from happening until a later age when you can make a better decision.
Gender surgery and puberty are similar, in that they both cause permanent and largely irreversible changes to the human body. However, you are concerned with people choosing to delay puberty, in an effort to make a decision later down the line, and you are not concerned with puberty itself. Interesting. It's almost like you would prefer that a permanent change happens to kids' bodies at a young age (10-13), but only a very specific permanent change that fits your worldview. Because kids can't make decisions about permanent changes until they get close to 18-21, as you said.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336] 1
#28028754 - 11/01/22 10:08 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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You're trying to tell me that gun violence kills more kids in the US than in places like Mexico and Afghanistan? No chance. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.
Gun ms kill more kids than cancer in our country . I'd say probably wrong .
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28028756 - 11/01/22 10:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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hey you know what on second thought idgaf. do what you want. just don't be shocked when other people do things you don't like in response.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Psilynut2]
#28028769 - 11/01/22 10:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Can't find stats specifically on children killed by gun violence in Mexico, every time I look it up, every result is about New Mexico.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: 336]
#28028772 - 11/01/22 10:23 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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336 said: hey you know what on second thought idgaf. do what you want. just don't be shocked when other people do things you don't like in response. 
Perhaps I should take this approach and buy a gun, then simply shoot anybody that says anything I don't like about trans people?
You're the one telling me how I can and can't raise my potential kids.
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Re: If Tulsi Gabbard never becomes the president of the USA then the USA is most likely fucked. [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28028779 - 11/01/22 10:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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do what you like my friend
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