|
DJHogan
Stranger

Registered: 06/14/22
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Should I bottom water this shoebox? 1
#28022838 - 10/29/22 01:25 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|


I have read about the process of bottom watering tubs to increase the water supply for a good pinset. I’m curious if this tub looks like it needs that. I also believe my substrate is quite shallow (4-5cm) so the amount of water it has could be limited. I just noticed today that one end of the shoebox has pulled a couple mm away from the side as well.
Curious what y’all think.
Thanks very much
--------------------
|
Baba Yaga
Psychedelic Minion

Registered: 09/13/20
Posts: 4,490
Loc: Try 'n' Error Boot Camp
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28022892 - 10/29/22 02:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Bottom water it sure if you like, pour a cup of water down the side, won't hurt anything.
|
DJHogan
Stranger

Registered: 06/14/22
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28022976 - 10/29/22 02:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Ok I put in a half cup to be safe, hopefully the sub expands.
Thanks for the input
--------------------
|
Baba Yaga
Psychedelic Minion

Registered: 09/13/20
Posts: 4,490
Loc: Try 'n' Error Boot Camp
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28023215 - 10/29/22 05:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
The sub won't expand again. Shrinking as it consolidates and putting out fruits is absolutely normal.
|
DJHogan
Stranger

Registered: 06/14/22
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28023230 - 10/29/22 05:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Oh I see. That’s news to me so thank you. Wouldn’t the natural shrinking therefore create side pinning on the next flushes? I guess I might need perfect surface conditions to prevent this?
--------------------
|
Yeatster
OTD Chef



Registered: 08/07/21
Posts: 8,121
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28023239 - 10/29/22 05:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Ime bottom watering, at that stage would create side pins. That said, I'd pay more attention to comments from Baba Yaga
|
cozmyc
gentle modern ape



Registered: 06/20/21
Posts: 2,154
Last seen: 12 days, 10 hours
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28023242 - 10/29/22 05:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
You are correct, that's why compression helps
-------------------- You're conscious population 2 stardust
----------------------
Nothing matters so everything does
|
cozmyc
gentle modern ape



Registered: 06/20/21
Posts: 2,154
Last seen: 12 days, 10 hours
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: cozmyc]
#28023247 - 10/29/22 05:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Its already developing the fruits, bottom watering will help at this point.
-------------------- You're conscious population 2 stardust
----------------------
Nothing matters so everything does
|
Tormato  
Chairman of the Bored




Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,106
Last seen: 2 days, 11 hours
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan] 2
#28023283 - 10/29/22 06:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DJHogan said:


I have read about the process of bottom watering tubs to increase the water supply for a good pinset. I’m curious if this tub looks like it needs that. I also believe my substrate is quite shallow (4-5cm) so the amount of water it has could be limited. I just noticed today that one end of the shoebox has pulled a couple mm away from the side as well.
Curious what y’all think.
Thanks very much 
At this stage I would just leave it be. Doesn't look real dry and the fruiting appears fairly healthy, I would just leave it and mist on occasion if it gets a little dry.
I don't think it's as bad as we think. If it's only now pulling away on one side I'd just ride it out for now.
If it was pulled away on all sides then I might try bottom watering, but it's not going to be long til harvest. I'd let it finish and then heavy mist or bottom water for flush 2.
-------------------- Helpful Threads
The Shroomery Store
Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!
"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead
Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!
|
cozmyc
gentle modern ape



Registered: 06/20/21
Posts: 2,154
Last seen: 12 days, 10 hours
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Tormato]
#28023309 - 10/29/22 06:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
 Amen
-------------------- You're conscious population 2 stardust
----------------------
Nothing matters so everything does
|
DJHogan
Stranger

Registered: 06/14/22
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: cozmyc]
#28023407 - 10/29/22 06:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
At this stage I would just leave it be. Doesn't look real dry and the fruiting appears fairly healthy, I would just leave it and mist on occasion if it gets a little dry.
I don't think it's as bad as we think. If it's only now pulling away on one side I'd just ride it out for now.
If it was pulled away on all sides then I might try bottom watering, but it's not going to be long til harvest. I'd let it finish and then heavy mist or bottom water for flush 2.

Upon further inspection I noticed that about half of the sub was separated from the walls of the tub, on the half with the larger fruits.
The half cup of water got absorbed well, so I’ll take your advice and leave it from here on out.
I’ll also take this opportunity to ask about another tek I can’t find now, which was rehydration with water that is a certain proportion of the wet weight of the fruit harvested. I am worried about breaking the substrate if i was to dunk but can’t seem to find the technique so if anyone has it that would be handy.
Thanks all for the help.</font></font>
--------------------
Edited by DJHogan (10/29/22 06:59 PM)
|
hazyhorse
scoobin



Registered: 03/19/19
Posts: 3,822
Last seen: 2 months, 5 days
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28023478 - 10/29/22 07:32 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
you don’t really need to dunk after harvest, just give it a heavy misting for the first few days & bottom water to see if it soaks anything up after a few hours
-------------------- you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================
 
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼 🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿
|
Yeatster
OTD Chef



Registered: 08/07/21
Posts: 8,121
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: hazyhorse]
#28023492 - 10/29/22 07:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
There are a few options to rehydrate. Bodhisattva IIRC showed floating your sub, making for easy harvest and hydrating thereafter. Personally, floating made harvesting tedious for this noob.
Heavy misting seems to be common practice, and in my limited experience works well.
|
hazyhorse
scoobin



Registered: 03/19/19
Posts: 3,822
Last seen: 2 months, 5 days
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Yeatster]
#28023513 - 10/29/22 07:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
floating is not my jam either, it’s easier for me to just lift the sub out of the tub if i’m going that route. you can’t really do it in modded monos either anyways
-------------------- you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================
 
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼 🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿
|
Yeatster
OTD Chef



Registered: 08/07/21
Posts: 8,121
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: hazyhorse]
#28023519 - 10/29/22 07:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hazyhorse said: floating is not my jam either, it’s easier for me to just lift the sub out of the tub if i’m going that route. you can’t really do it in modded monos either anyways
Haha, good point. I forgot about the modded issue. I guess unmodded was a recommendation I'd took as is now.
|
hazyhorse
scoobin



Registered: 03/19/19
Posts: 3,822
Last seen: 2 months, 5 days
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Yeatster]
#28023537 - 10/29/22 08:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
i ran like one or two unmodded tubs until i realized they are a pain in the ass in my climate. shit dries out way too fast just cracking the lid lol
-------------------- you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================
 
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼 🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿
|
Yeatster
OTD Chef



Registered: 08/07/21
Posts: 8,121
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: hazyhorse]
#28023542 - 10/29/22 08:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Unmodded in dry climate = bad? I don't get it
|
hazyhorse
scoobin



Registered: 03/19/19
Posts: 3,822
Last seen: 2 months, 5 days
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Yeatster]
#28023552 - 10/29/22 08:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
for me, the gap left by flipping the lid let a ton of FAE happen & i wasn’t around to mist it enough to keep up surface conditions. it was awhile ago, granted, & i may have better success with it now that i’m more experienced, but i moved to pasty style modded monotubs & they have been set & forget until around pins/first flush & i’ve never gone back. it’s more about what works in your climate & with your specific style of cultivation
-------------------- you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================
 
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼 🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿
|
Tormato  
Chairman of the Bored




Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,106
Last seen: 2 days, 11 hours
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: DJHogan]
#28023566 - 10/29/22 08:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DJHogan said: I am worried about breaking the substrate if i was to dunk but can’t seem to find the technique so if anyone has it that would be handy.
Thanks all for the help.
A substrate that size misting it super heavy for a bit would do the trick.
-------------------- Helpful Threads
The Shroomery Store
Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!
"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead
Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!
|
DJHogan
Stranger

Registered: 06/14/22
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
|
Re: Should I bottom water this shoebox? [Re: Tormato]
#28023592 - 10/29/22 08:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Awesome, thank you
--------------------
|
|