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Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan.
    #28006482 - 10/19/22 01:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Because these little fuckers want to come out and play I need to change my plans for spawning these to shoeboxes, at least the plan to break them up in shoeboxes.



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QQ. So my first ever boy here is wanting to come out a play really bad but this jar and a couple other ain't quite ready. In my figuring they need maybe another week to week and a half for consolidation but at the rate he is going, well its gonna get big. This one showed up about 5 or 6 days ago and another jar has another pin showing and isn't as close as this one to full colonization. Let them sit or?


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Rusty2096 said:
Those are brf cakes?

That's not a pin it's a fruit :lol:

Second jar bottom not fully colonized. Give it a day or two but if it's not colonized by then it never will be.

I vote spawn really soon (as soon as you see what's up with that uncolonized bottom).








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There is stuff hiding in cakes. No point in spreading it around. If they are colonized and look right then their colonial immune system is working properly and has localized contaminates. Breaking them up and spreading it around is never a good idea. If you need to case them or have a uniform sub just lay an inch of coir down and pack the cakes on top of the coir like they fit in the box the jars came in. Then fill the gaps and add a top layer with more coir. It will fruit a full canopy just like any other tub with spawn and substrate.

BRF cakes don't make good loose sub and are best fruited out whole. Grain is best for loose spawn and bulk substrate. Diesel goes in a diesel engine. Don't put diesel in a gas engine.




Trying to switch gears here from shredding to shoeboxes to something else.

The jar in the pic is now fully colonized and 2 others are close behind by maybe a day and a bit but none are consolidated. 7 others are a bit further off by 4 or 5 days and aren't pinning/fruiting yet.

I have 8 shoeboxes and cant seem to find any bigger tubs here without taking a day to run to the border but can't do that right now.

I have a brick and a bag of coir.

I don't have perlite, it is with the tubs in the states.

Please tell me the good, bad and ugly/dumb of this idea.

-This may be the ugly part. Wait till tomorrow ish to probably painfully birth the first 3 cakes as Rusty suggested.

-Soak the cakes for 24 ish hours.

-This maybe the dumb part. After hydration, cut the cakes in half so I have 2 shorter pucks.

-Roll the pucks in coir.

-Place a 1" layer of FC coir in the shoeboxes as Nichrome suggested.

-Put the rolled in coir pucks in/on the layer of  FC coir.

-After a couple hours give them a mist, put the top on set and forget for a while.

-As the other cakes are ready, wash, rinse, repeat.

Sorry to be a pain but the whole fruiting before colonization kind of threw my plan off a bit.

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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28006880 - 10/19/22 06:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Why chop them in half?


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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Jaksavage]
    #28007024 - 10/19/22 08:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Why chop them in half?




To get them a little more cozy with each other, double the amount of pucks, in the shoebox and for height issues in the shoebox? They will be right at the rim full length so I was thinking lower would be better.

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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28007031 - 10/19/22 08:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

you can dub tub or put a plastic bag over the shoebox. no need to cut your cakes. just make a mini humidity chamber

well saturated coir in the bottom
roll cakes in coir
put them in the tub on foil boats or lids
mist when needed


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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28007042 - 10/19/22 08:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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you can dub tub or put a plastic bag over the shoebox. no need to cut your cakes. just make a mini humidity chamber

well saturated coir in the bottom
roll cakes in coir
put them in the tub on foil boats or lids
mist when needed




So well saturated is FC coir or a little over?

Oh, and fan profusely right:wink:

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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly] * 1
    #28007052 - 10/19/22 08:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

yes put on a beaded skirt and wave a banana leaf over it

by well saturated i mean muddy. yes over FC. you dont wanna make soup but it should bother ben shapiro


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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28007072 - 10/19/22 08:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Just giving you shit baked because you are always the one who condemns fanning like the plague and I have learned to NOT do that from you.

I will mix 'er up a bit damp, dub it and call it a day.

Very thank you as they say here in Mexico when English is far from their grasp.

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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28007095 - 10/19/22 09:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

dale :rockon:


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    #28008307 - 10/20/22 06:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to dunk one or both of these tomorrow. You can see in the second pic the bottom is not quite colonized so may wait another day or so on this one or would it be better to get out since is has thrown a fruit?

Also, once I birth these, should I cut the fruits off before dunking over night or leave them on? Seems cutting them off would be the right thing to do but...?




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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28008372 - 10/20/22 07:37 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, are those pint jars?

I would wait until the jar finishes colonizes before birthing.

Yes, remove fruits before dunking. Dunking can kill live fruits.


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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28008395 - 10/20/22 07:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Damn, are those pint jars?

I would wait until the jar finishes colonizes before birthing.

Yes, remove fruits before dunking. Dunking can kill live fruits.




These are half pints and the one with the big fruit is fully colonized but not really consolidated and the small fruit jar needs another maybe couple days to fully colonize.

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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28012645 - 10/23/22 02:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So I dunked the one cake yesterday, put about an inch of coir a little over FC in the SB, rolled the cake in coir and set it just inside the layer of coir. Kind of in between what Baked and Nichrome suggested. I misted a few hours after rolling it and again this morning.

Question is, should I be seeing some condensation on the inside of the SB? Other than the coir on the cake getting lighter brown its kind of hard to tell how wet it is. I get this is kind of a hybrid method so it's probably not set and forget like some SB Teks are but also a bit hard to judge moisture content as well.


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Re: Switching gears on the PK cakes, My plan. [Re: Bajazly]
    #28012658 - 10/23/22 02:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

the coir should be wetter and there should be something under the cake, a foil square or jar lid. if the cake isnt too tall just close the tub with its regular lid


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    #28012685 - 10/23/22 02:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, will do.

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    #28021401 - 10/28/22 01:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I cant get the little droplets to form on this cake. There are always droplets on the side of the SB but won't form on the cake. Bottom coir is pretty wet so mist 4 or 5 times a day? Wetter bottom layer of coir? I'm putting 4 more cakes in tomorrow so maybe that will make a difference? This one has been by itself for 6 days now and I did dunk it for 24 ish hours.


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