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How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them?
    #28018372 - 10/26/22 08:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them?

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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: Mushroomsee] * 1
    #28018388 - 10/26/22 09:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

sooner the better


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: bakedbeings] * 1
    #28018406 - 10/26/22 09:20 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, the sooner the better. If you wait too long, it'll start getting moldy/bacterial.

If you can't PC it right away, the refrigerator is your best bet.


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: joze] * 1
    #28018504 - 10/26/22 10:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yuuup. Once in fridge, I wouldn't wait more than a few days. Contams are still growing. Just slower. :mushroom2:


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: cozmyc]
    #28018566 - 10/27/22 12:10 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Out of general curiosity lets say you had 5 or 6 bags and they sat for maybe a week after running in the pressure cooker but not inoculated yet. Smarter to cut it open and reprocess / rehydrate the grain or toss and start new?

Is reboiling or resoaking the grain even possible or after processing is it structurally altered?

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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: TheUsualSuspect] * 1
    #28018567 - 10/27/22 12:11 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

You can keep pc'd grain for months, no issue.

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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28018568 - 10/27/22 12:14 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Not long at all. I wouldn't recommend waiting over 24 hours unless you want to risk having bacterial/contammed grains. Mold will start visibly growing on the grains within 2 days in most cases. The higher spore count going into the PC the higher coming out the other end.


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28019303 - 10/27/22 12:21 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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TheUsualSuspect said:
Out of general curiosity lets say you had 5 or 6 bags and they sat for maybe a week after running in the pressure cooker but not inoculated yet. Smarter to cut it open and reprocess / rehydrate the grain or toss and start new?

Is reboiling or resoaking the grain even possible or after processing is it structurally altered?



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You can keep pc'd grain for months, no issue.




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If the grains have been pressure-cooked and the bags are still sealed, the grains will not go bad for a long time. If they do start to contaminate, that probably means they weren't PC'd for long enough.

The issue is prepping grain and letting it sit BEFORE pressure-cooking.


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: joze]
    #28020272 - 10/27/22 08:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Ya I was more thinking that the grains might dry out in the mean time more than having a contam issue. I do know the .2 micron filter patch does allow moisture to escape the bag (confirmed by a unicorn rep), I just wasnt sure how much moisture loss over how much time.

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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: TheUsualSuspect]
    #28020456 - 10/27/22 10:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

If you plan to store bags longterm post PC cycle, store them in an air tight tote or bucket.


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Re: How long can spawn bag stand after it has been boiled and hydrated, before you have to PC them? [Re: cozmyc]
    #28020535 - 10/27/22 11:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

If you had to keep a bag or three for an excessive time, couldn't you freeze them?

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