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Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils
#28018660 - 10/27/22 03:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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They were just pins three days ago...is this a torn veil? Should it be harvested? The tubs are well ventilated but the fuzzy bottoms do indicate a necessity for more air? Less misting? The surface always looks dry imo. Is there just not enough food for these pins? Thoughts?
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Tek: 5ccs GT spore syringe into 4 quart rye jars each (a lot but sped it all up), birthed 11days ago into 2 bucket tekd tubs, 1:2 grain sub 2 inch layer, topped with just the sub about 1/2 inch. It has all shrunk to being 1.5 inches thick. There is no liner, bottom of tubs are wrapped in black tape. Fruiting conditions introduced 5 days ago.
Edited by loremipsum (10/27/22 04:02 AM)
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: loremipsum] 1
#28018665 - 10/27/22 04:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The larger opened cap has a torn veil, the rest are maturing.
No need for tape on the bottom of the tub, fuzzy feet is fairly normal and should not be a trigger to suddenly respond either.

That was from these fruit that did not require a thing;
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: loremipsum]
#28018667 - 10/27/22 04:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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bacteria, too much or too little water, genetics, conditions etc. can all play into small fruits
your tub looks dry to me & the surface should look like this at all times. hard to tell with those pics tho. just keep beads of water on the surface
this person had too low a sub to spawn ratio & didn't have enough water for the flush. bottom watered & the mushrooms came in much more nicely. it's possible you spawned with too little water in the sub at spawn & the mushrooms just ran out of water. MSS to grain jars is also notorious for contams but your sub doesn't look too horrible. my guess is water if the sub shrank that much
light doesn't cause side pinning so save yourself the trouble of taping tubs in the future. most of us on here generally "fruit" from spawn, no reason to distinguish between "colonizing" & "fruiting" conditions just keep it moist enough in there
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28018672 - 10/27/22 04:21 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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hazyhorse said: bacteria, too much or too little water, genetics, conditions etc. can all play into small fruits
your tub looks dry to me & the surface should look like this at all times. hard to tell with those pics tho. just keep beads of water on the surface
this person had too low a sub to spawn ratio & didn't have enough water for the flush. bottom watered & the mushrooms came in much more nicely. it's possible you spawned with too little water in the sub at spawn & the mushrooms just ran out of water. MSS to grain jars is also notorious for contams but your sub doesn't look too horrible. my guess is water if the sub shrank that much
light doesn't cause side pinning so save yourself the trouble of taping tubs in the future. most of us on here generally "fruit" from spawn, no reason to distinguish between "colonizing" & "fruiting" conditions just keep it moist enough in there
The sub was rather a tad over field cap at first. The water on surface just does't seem to want to bead, even after misting it evaporates(altho a heavy misting that guarantees a 12hour beadfield seems to create these massive fuzzy water intake hotspots, maybe the feeding balance, schedule is wrong and all of this is messin around is too trauma for the fruits so they want to quickly yeet away and burst?) sides get foggy, water even tends to pool on the top easily, even with a very fine mister, penetrates surface too easily, not fully colonized? (before into FC, it looked very white and rhizo all around, pulled back after fc, maybe dried?)
Thank you for the input!
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DERRAYLD said:
The larger opened cap has a torn veil, the rest are maturing.
No need for tape on the bottom of the tub, fuzzy feet is fairly normal and should not be a trigger to suddenly respond either.
So it should be harvested to reduce the risk of it sporulating and increasing contamination? Thank you!
Edited by loremipsum (10/27/22 04:23 AM)
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: loremipsum]
#28018674 - 10/27/22 04:24 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spores don't lead to contamination, you want to harvest the mush that is going to sporulate to avoid covering your mush in jizz.
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: loremipsum]
#28018677 - 10/27/22 04:28 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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spores don't cause contamination. it's usually your spawn that causes contams
sometimes when the surface dries out too far it mats up & stops holding beaded water. you shouldn't have pooling but you do want beads. your mushrooms don't even really have what i would consider fuzzy feet, so i'd try to keep it more humid in there if you can
edit: derrayld beat me to it
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: hazyhorse]
#28018698 - 10/27/22 05:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Namaste, gents. Will try and amp up the moisture action and see if the surface can be tamed and update the thread
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Re: Tiny 2 inch shrooms breaking veils [Re: loremipsum]
#28018756 - 10/27/22 06:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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update, they all seem to decide to blossom once they reach the pictured line of 10mm wide holes covered in micropore tape running all along the base of the sub.
Thought is that the active air intake from that height is triggering them (might be some cold, air in the room fluctuates between 21c-24c). Or sub is just probably dry, they do seem to absolutley gulp the water that's misted, forming visable reservoirs of water at their base after heavy feeding twice already. It may also be chemical contamination (which is rarely considered and talked about), as the tape used to darken the base of the tubs smells absolutely horrible, exuding whatever polyjunk or glue into the microclimate of the tub, never know if the maker of the tubs has been shut down for making tubs containing radioactive material and it is always smarter to keep it all mum, rather than let global investors know your country inc can't handle basic oversight.
Edited by loremipsum (10/27/22 06:50 AM)
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