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(FIRST GROW FINISHED, THANKS SHROOMERY) A 5-16 day adventure (Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir) 1
#28009065 - 10/21/22 10:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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***FINISHED, THANKS SHROOMERY!*** /// 31/10/2022
Serious Introduction
My dearest beings:/b] I hope the best for you and your loved ones, as you read this and forever!
What I'm about to tell you is my first bulk grow. (Agar"B+"/Rye to Coir/1:1)
I am here: to share with you, to learn and improve, to have fun! and, to avoid mistakes!
Any insights are much appreciated, thank you very much!
So, I started on rye and bulked to coir. Followed my friend's advice (below) until bulk and then a few of Bodhisatta's advice and other forum members I can't recall since I was lurking. Thank you for sharing, and thank you for Shroomery! Amo-vos!
... I tried not to mix many methods but to do the most simple and effective possible (for me) within my possibilities and circumstances. It's not perfect. But it seems these beings are stronger than they look! I've been looking for answers and learning as I go on.
5/10 - Day 1:
Was gifted: Two agar plates colonized with Psylocibin Cubensis (B+).

Bought: Rye (bio) 14 4-oz Wide-mouth-jars.
Started with: Pressure Cooker (PC), Foil Cotton.
5/10 - Day 1 (Night)
1º Washed the rye to remove excess dirt. 2º Warmed up water to cook the rye. 3º As the water reached a boil, I added rye and let it cook for 5 minutes. 4º Turned it off and let it soak overnight.
6/10 - Day 2 (Morning)
5º Spread the rye on an oven tray and turned it around over a period of 8 hours until it was dry on the outside.

6º Drilled .6 cm holes on the lids of the jars.

7º Filled the jars to 3/4 with the rye.

8º Placed tiny cotton balls/cylinders in the holes.
Almost made the mistake of not using something between the jars and the bottom! I used Christmas metal shapes for cakes.

9º Loosely fitted the lids and placed tinfoil on top of the lid to protect from the water dripping in the PC. 10º Read the user's manual of the PC. 11º Placed some metal forms used in pastry in the bottom of the PC to create vertical space between the jars and the bottom of the PC. 12º Added one foiled-jar and measured how much water until 1 cm envolved the jars. 12º Added all the 14 foiled-jars 7 on the bottom, 7 on top, pressurecooked at the highest setting (13 psi) for 90 minutes and let it depressurize slowly so it wouldn't break the jars.

13º Placed the disinfected foiled-jars to cool on a pre-disinfected area below the kitchen air-exhaust unit.
6/10 - Day two (Day 1 of inoculation, at night)
Had: Lab coat (University); Latex gloves; Covid mask; Isopropyl alcohol; Lighter and a Kitchen knife.
14º Equipped the coat, gloves and mask; 15º Closed all windows and stopped air flow as best as I could; 16º Activated air-exhaust on max; 17º Disinfected gloves and took the agar plates from the fridge; 18º Disinfected gloves, utensils and sprayed the containers;
19º Proceeded to repeat this process of agar transfer to grain, scared not to contaminate anything: 19.1 Loosen the jar and the agar lids, not open 19.2 Drenched a napkin in isopropyl alcohol to clean the knife 19.3 Flamed the tip of the knife and cleaned it with the napkin, letting the air dry it (First time I dirtied the agar with the burned tip of the blade - this didn't affect the jar I learned later). 19.4 Keeping the jar and the agar, lid on, for most of the time, I quickly cut a piece of it, and place it in the jar. 19.5 Closed the jar, and gave it a big shake for 15 seconds 19.6 Placed the finished jar in a plastic suitcase container
20º Stored the jars in the dark at 77-79ºF (25-26ºC).

11/10 - Five days after inoc (Day 6)
21º Checked on the mycelia and saw growth on all of them. 22º A few had less growth than others so I decided to shake them! This worked, I checked on the jars a few days after and they were fully colonizing, I could see growth everywhere.
16/10 - 10 days after inoc (Day 11)
Bought: 1 brick of Coco coir Transparent tub
Had: Insulated container/ cooler Metal pan Ceramic cup
23º Poured boiling water on the coir brick inside a cooler inspired by Bod. Temperature was reading lower than 60ºC 24º I put the hydrated coir in a metal pan in the oven, with the lid on and a cup of water in the middle to help retain moisture and I baked it for 90 minutes at 60ºC. 25º Let it cool until below 100ºF (37.7ºC) as RR said somewhere (I did it at 30ºC). Crazy how that resembles a Human's core body temp. 27º Put the jar box under the kitchen's exhaust on max, the open transparent tub and the pan with the pasteurized coir. 28º Disinfected everything including the tub with isopropyl alcohol and kitchen paper. 29º Proceeded to add the coir to the tub and then the spawned rye, mixing gently getting it even. 30º Pat down the substrate to make the surface as even as possible without taking to long or pressing to hard for fear of contams and slow growth from compression. 31º Turned the lid upside down inspired by Bod. And put the light on/off for about 8 hours (on) : 16 hours (off), besides the natural ambient light. 32º Put plant growth music on the speaker and listened to feel if it was a good vibe, if I liked it I let it vibrate the tub - I mean it wouldnt hurt.

21 October - 15 days after inoc, 5 days after spawning to bulk (Day 16, ORIGINAL POST)
Beloved beings,
This is my first grow. B+ from agar to rye. I come to you asking for feedback! Hoping your wisdom can help to guarantee a couple flushes. Praying for enough potency!
I spawned 13 4-oz jars mixed with a 1:1 ratio of coir. It's been 5 days since I spawned to bulk and many thoughts race through my head. Looking for reassurance that I'm doing it right! Please.
I am leaving the lid upside-down and the window slightly open. They are getting indirect sun light from the window and direct light from one of those circular lamps used in social media, I turn it on when I wake up and turn it off when I go to sleep.
Edit: Introduced FAE - lid upside down

I misted once (2 days ago) and did fan three times since. I think I just have to wait but I would like to hear your feedback.
Much gratitude, Aspiringbaconeer

23 of October - 17 days after inoc
No movement! So nerveracking.
I did fan and left the tub open for 15 minutes, it feels like there is too much water sometimes!

24 of October - 18 days after inoc (8 Days from spawning to bulk, 19 days since the start)
Right now I'm attempting fruiting. And it's getting colder here in Portugal. So I moved the box from the floor to on top of the book closet. Lighting at 5500K.
Temp now: 25,4 °C or 77 °F

Misted indirectly and fanned the corners where I couldn't see water droplets.
25 of October (Day 9 of S2B)

Changed position again due to (1) reading about my lighting not being optimal (5500K) and (2) feeling it is too bright and disrespectful towards life, at least to me it would be. Also because (3) Read about fae being optimal in rooms with air movement - window slightly open, sun indirectly hitting. Feels better.

Feedback is welcome!! Um abraço.

Is this lack of FAE?
My friend, the person who gifted me the agar, saw these pictures and told me to fan 4x daily. I'm scared to do that cus I have a 1:1 sub and not a lot of water to waste.
Your advice please!

26 of October (Day 10 of S2B)
Today I saw my first pins, they look like Diglets! Can you see them both with this photo?

I am scared now for lack of humidity!? Why only pinning on the lateral? Hmm...
- Felt the need to tape the box 3x to reduce the light that gets to the side of the tub.
- Felt the corners were a bit dry so did mist and fan after.


27 of October (Day 11 of S2B)
More pins today. I am thinking about bottom watering because I know I wont have a lot of water from my 1:1 spawn ratio.
Could use some advice on this step!

28 of October (Day 12 of S2B)
Some lessons learned: - I saw the substrate shrink and noticed side pins - will use a liner next time.
- These shrooms like it really moist if they pin on the sides better. I am misting more often and fanning right after.
- Yesterday I did bottom water the tiniest amount and then had distress because the water wasn't absorbed after an hour - I decided to dump the free water and ended up flooding a part of the cake doing so.
- A bit dissapointed with the amount that decided to grace me but I am excited to be seeing new pins on a daily basis!
Photos:

This is the one I will clone and take the spores from! How should I go about my next project?

Day 29 of October (13 days since S2B)
Reason: 1:1 substrate shrinkage in fruiting - Bottom watered a tiny amount - Misted heavily and fanned a bit - Turned lid straight, unlatched. I am thinking this model has a lot of FAE already since pinning was happening in the sides not on top. So I turned it down and misted more to increase moisture. So far they seem to be growing daily.

30 of October - Day 14 of S2B
TL-DR: At the end of this day's report.
I got a story to tell if you are curious to read it, here it goes:
On 29 October I broke up my 1-year relationship with someone who is very dear to me but I keep gravitating towards other girls and desiring them instead of valuing and focusing on what a good girl I have with me.
So I basically spent the day feeling like a monster who hurt this person I love. Afternoon comes, and my sister is feeling pain under her armpits - she recently got away from a blood type cancer - could be from the treatments - quimio and radio. So we went with her, me and my brother and his GF.
But before I left, I checked the magical shrooms and I decided to remove the side pins and have them as tea before leaving (about 10 grams wet of small pins). I crushed them and squeezed a slice of lemon on top, mixing well. Waited a couple of minutes and boiled some tea with the mushrooms for a couple of minutes and drained. I was in a rush to leave the house and I didn't want to be spotted making the tea.
As I left the house I was already feeling more light and making jokes - even though am heartbroken, I still decided to take this healing medicine. It was tough being in the hospital and facing my mortality head-on under the heightened effects of these entities, I saw how life is short, how what matters most is our hearts, our feelings and nurturing for each other, our love - that looks fade and what matters is someone you are comfortable to spend your time with for that part of your life where you will fade into no-thingness or whatever mysteries lie awaiting us.
My brother and his GF were virgins together, they have this way of looking at a relationship that I, having had multiple partners so far, don't have. My sister never had a boyfriend. The advice I've been getting is from multiple perspectives and confuses me further. I was in pain. I wanted to release. I have a lot of shores to do in my life like everyone else - and sometimes they feel like a mountain to climb - and I just give up and become lazy. So I felt this pain from being unable to work on myself and her living in my house at the time (the GF), and I wanted space and I wanted different looks, different bodies, and different vibes.
But when I miss her it's really tough. I'm not so smart I recognize. I decided when we got back home to remove the underpins of the tub, which are gross and annoying to me. So I flooded the tub and removed the underpins, slightly damaging the substrate (cracked in the middle a bit).
But mushrooms fruiting are very resilient to contams and it seems the flush is coming well even though I manipulated the cake before time to remove the side pins, and then the underpins.
I then, at night, after 5 hours in the hospital and walking home, decided to take the underpins, which I didn't measure, but probably around 15-20g wet, as a tea.
Granted the set and setting I was in, this was not the smartest way to use these medicines. What happened was, I had the most terrible loopy dark trip, feeling about how I was so forever alone now in my room, after living with her for months, sleeping in the same bed. I was now alone staring at the ceiling feeling like I was a monster for hurting someone who was always so caring towards me, I felt really sad and miserable - I had to go to my sister's room to try to sleep - I needed comfort - I was feeling insane. I realized my subconscious, my body, was feeling sad, not only the executive "I" but the whole being was having waves of sadness, I cried like I hadn't, scared my sister a bit, asked for her forgiveness, and texted my now EX telling her how shitting I felt about everything, how miserable I was without her and that I wanted to take her back and take care for her.
This doesn't work now because it's a pattern I've been repeating for the past months. I am displeased. I need to work on myself. I go for short-term pleasures instead. I become miserable. I decide to break up because I cannot be happy by myself and then I resort to all sorts of pleasures to numb myself (games, porn, food, and even helping others becomes a distraction from what I need to do to help myself). So I broke up with her, but now I feel miserable and I recognize the huge heart she has and the immense beauty she has - but I know I will soon revert and forget - I need to change my attitude - I need to change myself.
Confronting death head-on yesterday made me realize I am already dying with each breath I take I get closer to the end of the candle - and I think like I am immortal and I can find someone better suited for me. True. But there are many many variables involved - like - we are both graduating and we are both dependent - we are both in that stage of life together - we can both grow a lot and we are willing - she has many many features I appreciate and recognize as valuable traits for a mother and partner - she is no slut, no bitch, no betrayer - she is serious, caring, nurturing, sensitive, attentive, so many things... but I have a biological urge and I have to learn how to fix my attitude towards myself and the opposite sex.
Anyway, I am sorry for writing so much. I feel like there was more to take out of the trip from yesterday than what I have said here, I feel like I forget too easily. I feel like I need to journal or record myself, to create a manual on how I should live - for myself - my rules. I easily revert back to unhealthy habits and I want to change.
Thank you for being here with me, much appreciated. Much love to you guys, I really wish the best for all - PEACE!


TL-DR: - Broke up with the GF - Filled the tub with water to remove side pins and bottom pins, cracked the cake lightly in the middle; - Had one "bad" trip (10g wet pins tea) taking the sister to the hospital having a faceoff with death at the hospital for 5 hours; - Had a second "bad" trip at night after drinking tea from the removed bottom pins - this was very loopy, dark, and excruciatingly sad (My official first really "Bad trip") - It was enlightening on my mortality though, I learned I need to work on myself; realized the true value of loving and nurturing, beyond looks and desires; - Learned how far I am from being able to be really happy alone; how I do fear death afterward; - Felt like shit from the break-up, had a huge void in my chest, and extreme sadness; - Felt this metaphor of me and her being substrates colonized by each other with time and now, breaking up, it's like I'm reaping apart myself, we are mixed; - Felt like she is willing to die with me and I am wasting that enormous heart of hers for the idea of another set of looks, tits, and ass; - Went to my sister's room asking for support as the trip was unfolding and had a miserable night but had a great moment of profoundness with my sister, brother, and sister the next day. - Next day I went to see my ex and we cuddled and were together. I don't know if this is going to work anymore. I hugged her on the way out and felt sad for leaving her there, but she doesn't want to come to my place yet because I broke up, makes sense. I wouldn't go back either. And to be honest I feel uneasy about keeping the relationship going but I am scared of being alone and loved as she loves me.
People have asked me, do you love her? And I cannot answer, I don't know what love is. I can be loving, and caring towards her but what is love? Of course, I love her, but I love life, I love the universe, how can my love be for one person only!? Mixed thoughts, confusing thoughts influenced by hormones. Man... I'm a mess. Anyway... shroom success!
Potency is there, I will say something when I try a normal dosage instead of a low one. But these low dosages I had were pretty strong, I'm happy. I wanted to have fun though with visuals and stuff, but that is not the point of these medicines I realize. Anyway... I've said enough.
Much love to you! I hope we all heal and live better lives.
31 of October - Day 15 of S2B
Regarding the mushies: - Been pumping the lid (opening and closing the lid slightly repetitively) when I go to my room or get out of it; - I have misted lightly as well; - The water from filling the tub yesterday (to remove the bottom pins) seemed to help - the mushrooms look bigger and more vigorous (maybe has to do with being a 1:1 substrate as well) nothing bad happened so far;


Much love
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FINISHED GUYS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SHROOMERY!









Your feedback is always welcome and encouraged! Love and Light
Edited by aspiringbaconeer (11/01/22 10:49 AM)
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Sprores
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Looks alright so far. In future i would do at least a 1:2 spawn/cvg ratio, i tend to do 1:3 and others recommend 1:4. I also do 12 hours light 12 hours dark, but that's not a super big deal either.
I can't really tell how the surface conditions look from the image. Is it moist? Water droplets? Pools of water? Dry? You want it to be covered in many tiny water beads while still maintaining FAE.
Keep waiting and look for knots/pins. I think you'll be fine.
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Welcome!
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Sprores]
#28009220 - 10/21/22 12:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you @Sprores, @JakSavage
Feels good to share and have your replies.
Friendly mushfriends,
1) @Sprores: hydrated enough? There are 2 drops of water that fell from the side onto the substrate and they don't permeate the substrate, it seems to be hydrophobic. I thought about
2) Do you think this is enough FAE?

3) Btw, how do I refer to a nickname here? (Like one does @username in Instagram)
Thanks again, love you guys!
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Sprores, Jaksavage, bakedbeings, The Mycologist, thetryptkeeper, KROM, Bubbaluch, Screwup, Darklodge, spirit_shadow, bodhisatta & Anglerfish
Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/21/22 12:27 PM)
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bakedbeings
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to me it looks like enough FAE and good surface conditions. dont fan, just peak at it once a day to make sure you see those beads of water. if you dont, mist until you do. otherwise your job is over until harvest
i agree that 1:1 is low, only recommended for very poor spawn, but as noob mistakes go its a minor one
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
#28009248 - 10/21/22 12:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great to know!
Thank you for your input @bakedbeings 🙏🏼
As I've read:
Mushlove 🍄
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Sprores, Jaksavage, bakedbeings, The Mycologist, thetryptkeeper, KROM, Bubbaluch, Screwup, Darklodge, spirit_shadow, bodhisatta & Anglerfish
Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/21/22 12:31 PM)
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You are gonna have a forest.
Looks great.
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: The Mycologist]
#28009343 - 10/21/22 01:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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@The Mycologist
Fingers crossed!
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THANKS SHROOMERY!
Sprores, Jaksavage, bakedbeings, The Mycologist, thetryptkeeper, KROM, Bubbaluch, Screwup, Darklodge, spirit_shadow, bodhisatta & Anglerfish
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1) Should I do something about these water drops?

2) Does the fuzzy nature of what is being shown indicate something I can dial better?
Fears
I am afraid of not having the reward from my efforts, having only spawned to coir, being my first grow, the light is 5500K, temp. around 76°F maybe lower at night to 72°F maximum. Had a small fruit fly die inside the tub, found him stuck to the lid, afraid of contamination from the 5 fans I gave so far and the 1 mist in the beginning...
I don't want failure.
3) Can you reassure my restless mind please?
Much gratitude AB
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THANKS SHROOMERY!
Sprores, Jaksavage, bakedbeings, The Mycologist, thetryptkeeper, KROM, Bubbaluch, Screwup, Darklodge, spirit_shadow, bodhisatta & Anglerfish
Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/23/22 08:49 AM)
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1, no the small beads of water and the water drops rolling down the sides are both good things as long as its not swimming
2, yes, next time just cover your grains. I do a 1:2 ratio and ill mix 1.5 and save the last .5 as a top layer so no grains are exposed. its an extra layer of safety.
3, youre fine. you really are over thinking it. temp is fine. light is fine. the biggest thing id change is upping your sub ratio to 1:2 or 1:3 next time and saving a bit to use as a top layer. get your field capacity correct and you can really just leave it closed until its time to harvest. the hardest part is being patient and not doing too much.
youre gonna get some good fruits and honestly dont have anything to worry about. just gotta be patient!
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: thetryptkeeper]
#28012162 - 10/23/22 09:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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everything looks fine bro no worries
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Yeah, sure. By the time you spawn to bulk, the colony is sufficiently established such that exposure to open air is unlikely to cause contamination. (If it does contaminate before first flush, it’s almost certainly because the spawn was already contaminated.) So don’t worry about the dead fly, it has been banished to the land of wind and ghosts. The current level of fuzz is not giving me any indication that anything is wrong. You can soak up pooling water by gently blotting it with a paper towel. But as the good homies above me have stated, calm your mind, everything is as it should be .
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: KROM]
#28012200 - 10/23/22 09:39 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you for being so supportive! @Thetryptkeeper, @bakedbeings & @Krom
Really lifts my spirit! 🍄 Much gratitude. 🙏🏼 I guess patience is due.🧘
You see, I really want fruits to give my brother his first time 🚀👨🚀, before he travels to another country!
I have 5 days left. I guess I won't make it but.. 🤞🏽 Fingers crossed guys 🤞🏽
Will keep you posted. Love and light AB
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Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/23/22 09:49 AM)
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bakedbeings
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nope...not likely youll see fruits in 5 days. but tell your brother to learn PF TEK
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
#28012236 - 10/23/22 10:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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@bakedbeings will do!
I have a few more ideas and doubts.
If you would/ could, or another friendly member of the community share with me a bit, I'd love to read what you have to say!
1) Do you recommend PF Tek for ease of cultivation? But would you say bulk is superior to it?
2) I'm waiting for other grain jars to completely colonize (did a grain to grain transfer when I spawned these to bulk). I wish to do a poo Tek with them soon and compare then with the Coir at 2.5g. And recommendation for Teks? Personal experiences with potency comparison?
3) Another curiosity I have that you can maybe entertain: tinctures! And recommendation? Personal experience? would love to read.
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Sprores, Jaksavage, bakedbeings, The Mycologist, thetryptkeeper, KROM, Bubbaluch, Screwup, Darklodge, spirit_shadow, bodhisatta & Anglerfish
Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/23/22 10:18 AM)
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Quote:
aspiringbaconeer said: @bakedbeings will do!
I have a few more ideas and doubts.
If you would/ could, or another friendly member of the community share with me a bit, I'd love to read what you have to say!
1) Do you recommend PF Tek for ease of cultivation? But would you say bulk is superior to it? its simple, quick, cheap, foolproof, requires less equipment, investment, and space, and can produce much more than one person needs. if you are just interested in tripping with friends once in a while it is the perfect tek
2) I'm waiting for other grain jars to completely colonize (did a grain to grain transfer when I spawned these to bulk). I wish to do a poo Tek with them soon and compare then with the Coir at 2.5g. And recommendation for Teks? Personal experiences with potency comparison? there is no difference in potency when growing on poo vs verm
3) Another curiosity I have that you can maybe entertain: tinctures! And recommendation? Personal experience? would love to read. ive tried many extractions and my favorite method is: water, lemon juice, shrooms in a blender boiled for ten minutes (sweetener optional) strained
it will stay potent long term if frozen
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
#28012409 - 10/23/22 12:10 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Boil for 10 min. blended shrooms with lemon"!?
a. Like 100°C for 10 min.?
b. Enough liquid to cover the shrooms?
I wanted to reduce the amount of liquid though.
c. Have you tried tinctures? Can you tell me a bit about that experience?
Love and Light from Portugal
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Edited by aspiringbaconeer (10/23/22 12:11 PM)
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a. Like 100°C for 10 min.? yes, 100c is boiling temp
b. Enough liquid to cover the shrooms? yes
I wanted to reduce the amount of liquid though. you can start with whatever amount of liquid you choose and evaporate as much of it as you choose
c. Have you tried tinctures? Can you tell me a bit about that experience? if by tincture you mean room temp alcohol extraction, ive tried it and the results were sub-par. the actives are water soluble and heat stable, so boiling in water is a better option. i guess they call that a decoction
edit- you can use ascorbic acid instead of lemon
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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Good morning @bakedbeings
Thank you for answering 👌🏽
I will try that decoction next time! For sure. 🍄
1) Seems you are confident boiling will not destroy the magic? I was thinking of a simmering boil? Is it? Or a raging boil? I am thinking of using a Bimby on 100°C/90°C for 10 min.
I would follow the decoction's instructions and still worry 😅
In a different setting I would ask some personal questions out of curiosity like, where are you from? But that is beyond the point of the post.
When I have pins or something to worry about I will be back.
I apologize for any disturbance caused.
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actives are stable well over 400F, boiling wont do anything. just remember the magic must be stored dry at room temp or frozen as tea. those are the only two known solutions for long term storage
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Day 8 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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Great to know about the resistance of actives up to 400°F!
Have you done pasta with the shrooms then? 😜
I was born in Portugal and I live here, in Lisbon.
24 of October
It's getting colder in Portugal. Changed the position of the mushrooms.
Temp now: 25,4 °C or 77 °F
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Have you done pasta with the shrooms then?
no i like lemonade, but there is a recipe somewhere here for deep fried shrooms. if i did a savory dish it would probably be some kind of ramen
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Re: Day 8 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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Teonanacatl ramen, hmm yum!
I heard good things about boofing, I'm considering. Where are the bum-stranauts?
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Re: Day 8 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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😂😂😂
Is just laughing considered spam I wonder. I am curious but I am joking too! Peace
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Here is the tea recipe I use if you need more info op.
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Re: Day 8 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: The Mycologist]
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@The Mycologist Thank you for sharing your recipe! I will try it.
I am curious about McKenna's 5G in total darkness although I am wondering my 5G probably wont be as potent as the 5G he would consume.
Today is day 9 of S2B
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Changed position again due to (1) reading about my lighting not being optimal (5500K) and (2) feeling it is too bright and disrespectful towards life, at least to me it would be. Also because (3) Read about fae being optimal in rooms with air movement - window slightly open, sun indirectly hitting. Feels better.

Feedback is welcome!! Um abraço.

Is this lack of FAE?

Please groooooowwwww!!!
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Today I saw my first pins, they look like Diglets! Can you see them both with this photo?

I am scared now for lack of humidity!? Why only pinning on the lateral? Hmm...
Mush love indeed! 🍄
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No matter the potency. 5 gs is gonna be insane.
You might want to work your way there.
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Re: Day 5 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: The Mycologist]
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Re: Day 8 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: The Mycologist]
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I will do a small dosage first just to see how they feel! @The Mycologist
I really hope so! @Bubbaluch
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- Felt the need to tape the box 3x to reduce the light that gets to the side of the tub.
- Felt the corners were a bit dry so did mist and fan after.


Hey guys!
27 of October (Day 11 of S&B)
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More pins today. I am thinking about bottom watering because I know I wont have a lot of water from my 1:1 spawn ratio.
Could use some advice on this step!

28 of October (Day 12 of S&B)
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Some lessons learned: - I saw the substrate shrink and noticed side pins - will use a liner next time.
- These shrooms like it really moist if they pin on the sides better. I am misting more often and fanning right after.
- Yesterday I did bottom water the tiniest amount and then had distress because the water wasn't absorbed after an hour - I decided to dump the free water and ended up flooding a part of the cake doing so.
- A bit dissapointed with the amount that decided to grace me but I am excited to be seeing new pins on a daily basis!
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This is the one I will clone and take the spores from! How should I go about my next project?

Love and Light!
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Day 29 of October (13 days since S&B)
Context: - 1:1 rye2coir shrinkage in fruiting stage
Actions since yesterday: - Bottom watered a tiny amount - Misted heavily and fanned a bit - Turned lid straight, unlatched. I am thinking this model has a lot of FAE already since pinning was happening in the sides not on top. So I turned it down and misted more to increase moisture. So far they seem to be growing daily.
Some more context: - This is what I did out of feel and from what I know and mixed in my head. - This is my first bulk grow, - I would love to have your acknowledgements or critiques, please feel welcome to comment!
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Re: Day 13 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Screwup]
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What was your reasoning so I can learn from it? Thank you!
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There’s no benefit from fanning. Passive air exchange is all you need or want. If you get too much water pooling then wipe it with a paper towel or stop misting sign much.
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Re: Day 13 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Screwup]
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Alright Screwup, learned smth new today! Thank you very much 🙂👌🏽
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I am currently doing my first grow also. Your post has been very inspiring and I can feel your stress and doubts during the process . Seems like you did it, I don't thing there is anything that can go wrong at this point,well done!
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Day 14 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Darklodge]
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Hi Darklodge!
Thank you for saying something, you warmed up my heart a bit. I am very happy to share this adventure with you!
30 of October - Day 14 of S2B
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I got a story to tell if you are curious to read it, here it goes:
On 29 October I broke up my 1-year relationship with someone who is very dear to me but I keep gravitating towards other girls and desiring them instead of valuing and focusing on what a good girl I have with me.
So I basically spent the day feeling like a monster who hurt this person I love. Afternoon comes, and my sister is feeling pain under her armpits - she recently got away from a blood type cancer - could be from the treatments - quimio and radio. So we went with her, me and my brother and his GF.
But before I left, I checked the magical shrooms and I decided to remove the side pins and have them as tea before leaving (about 10 grams wet of small pins). I crushed them and squeezed a slice of lemon on top, mixing well. Waited a couple of minutes and boiled some tea with the mushrooms for a couple of minutes and drained. I was in a rush to leave the house and I didn't want to be spotted making the tea.
As I left the house I was already feeling more light and making jokes - even though am heartbroken, I still decided to take this healing medicine. It was tough being in the hospital and facing my mortality head-on under the heightened effects of these entities, I saw how life is short, how what matters most is our hearts, our feelings and nurturing for each other, our love - that looks fade and what matters is someone you are comfortable to spend your time with for that part of your life where you will fade into no-thingness or whatever mysteries lie awaiting us.
My brother and his GF were virgins together, they have this way of looking at a relationship that I, having had multiple partners so far, don't have. My sister never had a boyfriend. The advice I've been getting is from multiple perspectives and confuses me further. I was in pain. I wanted to release. I have a lot of shores to do in my life like everyone else - and sometimes they feel like a mountain to climb - and I just give up and become lazy. So I felt this pain from being unable to work on myself and her living in my house at the time (the GF), and I wanted space and I wanted different looks, different bodies, and different vibes.
But when I miss her it's really tough. I'm not so smart I recognize. I decided when we got back home to remove the underpins of the tub, which are gross and annoying to me. So I flooded the tub and removed the underpins, slightly damaging the substrate (cracked in the middle a bit).
But mushrooms fruiting are very resilient to contams and it seems the flush is coming well even though I manipulated the cake before time to remove the side pins, and then the underpins.
I then, at night, after 5 hours in the hospital and walking home, decided to take the underpins, which I didn't measure, but probably around 15-20g wet, as a tea.
Granted the set and setting I was in, this was not the smartest way to use these medicines. What happened was, I had the most terrible loopy dark trip, feeling about how I was so forever alone now in my room, after living with her for months, sleeping in the same bed. I was now alone staring at the ceiling feeling like I was a monster for hurting someone who was always so caring towards me, I felt really sad and miserable - I had to go to my sister's room to try to sleep - I needed comfort - I was feeling insane. I realized my subconscious, my body, was feeling sad, not only the executive "I" but the whole being was having waves of sadness, I cried like I hadn't, scared my sister a bit, asked for her forgiveness, and texted my now EX telling her how shitting I felt about everything, how miserable I was without her and that I wanted to take her back and take care for her.
This doesn't work now because it's a pattern I've been repeating for the past months. I am displeased. I need to work on myself. I go for short-term pleasures instead. I become miserable. I decide to break up because I cannot be happy by myself and then I resort to all sorts of pleasures to numb myself (games, porn, food, and even helping others becomes a distraction from what I need to do to help myself). So I broke up with her, but now I feel miserable and I recognize the huge heart she has and the immense beauty she has - but I know I will soon revert and forget - I need to change my attitude - I need to change myself.
Confronting death head-on yesterday made me realize I am already dying with each breath I take I get closer to the end of the candle - and I think like I am immortal and I can find someone better suited for me. True. But there are many many variables involved - like - we are both graduating and we are both dependent - we are both in that stage of life together - we can both grow a lot and we are willing - she has many many features I appreciate and recognize as valuable traits for a mother and partner - she is no slut, no bitch, no betrayer - she is serious, caring, nurturing, sensitive, attentive, so many things... but I have a biological urge and I have to learn how to fix my attitude towards myself and the opposite sex.
Anyway, I am sorry for writing so much. I feel like there was more to take out of the trip from yesterday than what I have said here, I feel like I forget too easily. I feel like I need to journal or record myself, to create a manual on how I should live - for myself - my rules. I easily revert back to unhealthy habits and I want to change.
Thank you for being here with me, much appreciated. Much love to you guys, I really wish the best for all - PEACE!


TL-DR: - Broke up with the GF - Filled the tub with water to remove side pins and bottom pins, cracked the cake lightly in the middle; - Had one "bad" trip (10g wet pins tea) taking the sister to the hospital having a faceoff with death at the hospital for 5 hours; - Had a second "bad" trip at night after drinking tea from the removed bottom pins - this was very loopy, dark, and excruciatingly sad (My official first really "Bad trip") - It was enlightening on my mortality though, I learned I need to work on myself; realized the true value of loving and nurturing, beyond looks and desires; - Learned how far I am from being able to be really happy alone; how I do fear death afterward; - Felt like shit from the break-up, had a huge void in my chest, and extreme sadness; - Felt this metaphor of me and her being substrates colonized by each other with time and now, breaking up, it's like I'm reaping apart myself, we are mixed; - Felt like she is willing to die with me and I am wasting that enormous heart of hers for the idea of another set of looks, tits, and ass; - Went to my sister's room asking for support as the trip was unfolding and had a miserable night but had a great moment of profoundness with my sister, brother, and sister the next day. - Next day I went to see my ex and we cuddled and were together. I don't know if this is going to work anymore. I hugged her on the way out and felt sad for leaving her there, but she doesn't want to come to my place yet because I broke up, makes sense. I wouldn't go back either. And to be honest I feel uneasy about keeping the relationship going but I am scared of being alone and loved as she loves me.
People have asked me, do you love her? And I cannot answer, I don't know what love is. I can be loving, and caring towards her but what is love? Of course, I love her, but I love life, I love the universe, how can my love be for one person only!? Mixed thoughts, confusing thoughts influenced by hormones. Man... I'm a mess. Anyway... shroom success!
Potency is there, I will say something when I try a normal dosage instead of a low one. But these low dosages I had were pretty strong, I'm happy. I wanted to have fun though with visuals and stuff, but that is not the point of these medicines I realize. Anyway... I've said enough.
Much love to you! I hope we all heal and live better lives.
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31 of October - Day 15 of S2B
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Regarding the mushies: - Been pumping the lid (opening and closing the lid slightly repetitively) when I go to my room or get out of it; - I have misted lightly as well; - The water from filling the tub yesterday (to remove the bottom pins) seemed to help - the mushrooms look bigger and more vigorous (maybe has to do with being a 1:1 substrate as well) nothing bad happened so far;


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Question for the experienced here:
Besides being a "B+" P. Cubensis, is there something else you can tell me about them from the way they look?
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FINISHED GUYS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SHROOMERY!









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Besides being a "B+" P. Cubensis, is there something else you can tell me about them from the way they look?
No its pretty much impossible to identify the strain by the look
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Re: Day 15 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: The Mycologist]
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Thank you friend.
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Re: Day 15 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Jaksavage]
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Thank you Jak!
I messed up yesterday.
Shroom flavour and smell destroyed me. I ended up puking and spent the whole night miserable.
Used the shrooms too much probably. Now I really felt sick, that was horrible.
I wish I knew how to properly use these medicines.
Love shrooms but now I need some holidays from them. Damn.
Also, I truly believe that due to only spawning to Coir that these were the weakest possible.
They worked their magic, I felt I was in a level of consciousness where my anxiety dissapeared and I could speak abouy anything without taboos.
But the experience felt so evasive.
I looked for them (shrooms) but they would hide, I only felt drunk. When I wasn't looking they would "speak" to me, I would feel them, see the movement of things.
I am curious to know from you guys judge what I am sharing and I would love to have your support.
I had once tried 100 fresh grams of Cubensis and I remember the come up being nauseating but loving the music I was listening to.
Then I remember sitting on my bed trying to go deep into myself only to feel bad about the things I was doing in life that were not aligned with being a good person in my eyes.
Besides that I had no marvelous visuals or experiences.
I've felt the shroom's touch over and over again, it's benefits, but that nausea and wanting to puke kill me. I can't take the smell anymore. Almost wanted to abandon this hobby because of this. Yesterday was very uncomfortable.
Would love to hear from you guys Much love
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nah
sorry you had a bad one. try tea next time, with lots of lemon
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Re: Day 15 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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That is hilarious haha
I don't get it then, what is the difference between (a) growing with sophisticated ratios and (b) straight to coir.
I would like to understand this.
I was looking around to find the cheapest additives and substrates I could add to make sure my shrooms are buff and fit to talk to me.
They have been hiding from me...
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maybe i dont understand, do you think they were weak because you only used coir for substrate?
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Re: Day 15 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: bakedbeings]
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I was under the idea that the more varied the food you give the shrooms, until a certain level, the better they can fulfill their genetic potential. Members like RR have said things which hinted to this, like "the more wellrounded the food the shrooms will thank you for it". So I am looking into ways I can enhance the substrate without going through great efforts financially. What do you think?
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aspiringbaconeer said: I was under the idea that the more varied the food you give the shrooms, until a certain level, the better they can fulfill their genetic potential. Members like RR have said things which hinted to this, like "the more wellrounded the food the shrooms will thank you for it". So I am looking into ways I can enhance the substrate without going through great efforts financially. What do you think?
Look at what the people pushing multiple monotubs a week do…nothing varied about theirs. Grain and coir.
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aspiringbaconeer said: I was under the idea that the more varied the food you give the shrooms, until a certain level, the better they can fulfill their genetic potential. Members like RR have said things which hinted to this, like "the more wellrounded the food the shrooms will thank you for it". So I am looking into ways I can enhance the substrate without going through great efforts financially. What do you think?
if you are using grain spawn you dont need additional nutrition. the sub is purely acting as a water reservoir. if shrooms were hurting for food then 1:1 would work better than 1:3 but the opposite is true because they are thirsty not hungry
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Re: Day 15 of Spawn-to-Bulk B+ Rye to Coir [Re: Screwup]
#28031301 - 11/03/22 03:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought they were thinking of making money out of this, not necessarily having the interest to have the best product? Maybe I am overthinking like usual.
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