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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
    #27928825 - 09/01/22 10:31 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I haven’t seen the “my pet” thing on a new post since I’ve been here lol. A couple of decades ago it’s all over the forum; a plausible deniability thing. “My cat said the potency was good” or “my pet lizard is having trouble with this thing.”

Always fun to go back and look.

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27928830 - 09/01/22 10:34 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Lol classic SWIM


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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Mamashroom765]
    #27928831 - 09/01/22 10:36 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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I got only 3 jars to take with my first grow but did great. Having terrible time getting grain to grow. I did 3 jars only 1 not contaminated. My problem is I wanted to increase humidity in my martha tent. I have a cool mist humidifier on the bottom and the hydroponic one I just bought. Humidity is still hovering around 70. Any suggestions other than misting? Should I get a fogger?




you dont want to use a martha for this kind of growing. you just need a water tub, see sig

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
    #27928894 - 09/01/22 11:32 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I'd highly recommend checking out the H2O tub link in my signature...

A lot of the "getting started" threads like the one Ashtray161 shared suggest making a SGFC, but I've seen a lot of posts where people have issues getting them dialed in right.. the water tub is very simple to set up and keep optimal surface conditions.

Edit: :lol: I didn't notice the 2nd page, bakedbeans beat me to it :super:

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: NoCopsPlzThx]
    #27928906 - 09/01/22 11:40 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I remember scrolling through this site almost 10 years ago. Just learning and reading. Never thought id be consulting with other members and doing stuff on my own. Glad to see this site is still what is was 10 years ago. I'll see you guys around :thumbup:

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27929093 - 09/01/22 02:18 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd highly recommend checking out the H2O tub link in my signature...

A lot of the "getting started" threads like the one Ashtray161 shared suggest making a SGFC, but I've seen a lot of posts where people have issues getting them dialed in right.. the water tub is very simple to set up and keep optimal surface conditions.

Edit: :lol: I didn't notice the 2nd page, bakedbeans beat me to it :super:




Yea the water tub is just as good if not better than a SGFC


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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27948164 - 09/13/22 01:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Auzman! Just checkin in on ya buddy. Hope you and the grow are well.

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: NoCopsPlzThx]
    #27980278 - 10/03/22 09:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hello my friend, I'm glad to announce that things are going swimmingly. The jars are just about fully colonized. Had some low Temps at night that caused some slowing in growth but I got that controlled. Fruiting chamber is ready. Probably gonna start the consolidation period and in a week we should have the cakes in the sgfc. I'll update when we have pins :cool:

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    #27980458 - 10/03/22 11:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I hear SGFC isn't recommended anymore... wait for some more educated folks to guide you to the next step.


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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: BoySage] * 1
    #27980577 - 10/04/22 03:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Hello my friend, I'm glad to announce that things are going swimmingly. The jars are just about fully colonized. Had some low Temps at night that caused some slowing in growth but I got that controlled. Fruiting chamber is ready. Probably gonna start the consolidation period and in a week we should have the cakes in the sgfc. I'll update when we have pins :cool:




Hey bro! Glad you checked back in!!! I'm so glad we got you sorted and in motion!! I've been having some lovely successes as well!!

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I hear SGFC isn't recommended anymore... wait for some more educated folks to guide you to the next step.




SGFC is considered outdated by some people. I will admit there are some easier FC designs like Mateja's water tub. Now, that being said, I can also show you dozens and dozens of highly successful grows in SGFC, including my own currently running.

One trend I have noticed where people have trouble with SGFC happens when the SGFC isn't fully populated. Think 2 half pint cakes in a 66qt SGFC. Not likely to work well. You need to load the box up. I have 10 cakes in a 66qt and it could stand to have more. Fahtster double stacked his cakes to great effect, he had 24 cakes together. The cakes themselves and their spacing are, in my view, crucial to getting the proper microclimates - probably because of the massive amount of FAE the SGFC provides.

The other thing, like ALL our work is surface conditions. Depending on your environment, and the stage of fruiting, you may have to mist upwards of 5 times a day. I tend to mist lighter when its just the small delicate primordia and pins, boost through the middle phase and then back off slightly when it's packed with fruits so as not to water log the fruits.

I take my spray bottle on mist mode. Hold it a good 2.5-3feet/~75cm over the SGFC. You really want those little aerosolized drops to hit all over your cakes top and sides. I do that until they are slightly glistening or you can see the small, small droplets on the visible mycelium.

SGFC TLDR: make plenty of cakes for the size of box you've got and mist regularly when needed

This thread helped me get targeted:
The Misted Cake Project

Also, don't worry about fanning. Save your time and your arms from becoming noodles. If any information is outdated, it's fanning all day!

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: NoCopsPlzThx]
    #28008933 - 10/21/22 08:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys. So the cakes are in the sgfc and it's been about 5 days. I keep the humidity at 90% and the temperature hovers anywhere between 75 and 80 degrees. Any words of wisdom from my people? Also I have the cakes resting on circular card board pieces. The mycelium is starting to cover the cardboard pieces. Good or bad thing? And when do you think I'll see some pinning

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: NoCopsPlzThx]
    #28008936 - 10/21/22 08:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Have a little advice for my last post?

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
    #28008954 - 10/21/22 08:23 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I'd replace the cardboard with aluminum foil pieces the same size as your cakes.

The temp is fine. I like to keep mine somewhere around 72ish. A little warmer or cooler shouldn't hurt much.  80 is pushing it with bacterial or other nasties that thrive in this environment but still should be fine.

It is hard to say when you will see pinning. 

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Vibetyme]
    #28009042 - 10/21/22 09:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Vibetyme]
    #28009044 - 10/21/22 09:45 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Turned the heat down a little and followed your advice with the foil.

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
    #28009082 - 10/21/22 10:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Oh Padawan,
If mycelium is covering hardboard peaces, its a great thing. just prevent that they grow and together.
Once there was a rumor, that mycelium complex would never fruit, if it still finds nutrition. That would never end with cardboard in contact. But that was just a theory. I never managed vermiculite TEK, as my cakes became to hard and never been colonised inside.

Blending the cardboard or just making small pieces of it is a great new starter culture, btw..
Maybee with clean water 1:50 or so.
Some even make cultivate liquid culture... but id not bet, that this is efficient... its simply to few air in liquids.
I also managed to transmit on a sterilised toilet roll. (the inner cardboard roll is great)
Mycelium grows in and I even managed to grow relatively tiny, but healty mushrooms.

Essentially. Cardboard is cool. It does not attract contamination too much. Blended in sterile water again, it offers plenty of food too.

Even the less, if it dries outside and even drops of infectious hit it.  It seals automatically then, when dry.
And it is easy sterilisable. Openly spoken. Boiling hot water does the job, wo pressure cooker.
("pasteurising").

I speak from practice. This is not lab standard.
I do not suggest you eat such mushrooms- its simply hard to predict, which glue is used in paper boards. But for a spore print its definitely sufficient.

I am actually not a fan of cake technique. My strain , I used decades ago, preferred hay. Just
the tiny stuff for small pets cages. Even straw worked great.
I believe that this materials do not need that hardcore pressure cooker treatment as cakes, as they restraint other colonies of microorganisms.

So cooked hay or straw in a Beer glass (with aluminium foil lid) with some pieces of your infected cardboard does the job. it safes you the time time to shake, colonises lightening fast in rhizzomorph growth. Easier with living mycelium, than spores. The Beerglass works as  a great container to keep the moisture from evaporation highest. Actually 6 might fit in a pressure cooker as well.
And as its open and fluffy, good aired and the nutritions are limited, the fruiting happens automatically.
So, yes. Everything which contains cellulosis or other forms of sugar in tiny amounts works often as grain replacement.
Its cheap and easy repeatable. Its safe.
One can work redundant without a lab.
I am aware, this is not high end standard. But it works very well. One time. Sometimes twice.
Just dont expect it to flush again and again and again.
So take the cardboard, scissors, and a mixer and make 50 syringes. And then
spread it selectively in your environment. Which you cover then with mustard glasses. marmalade glasses with cooked autumn leafes.. just make your experiments.
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Despencer]
    #28009090 - 10/21/22 10:42 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Great words of advice, Jedi. I took the cardboard pieces out and transferred a small piece into a inoculation jar for a small experiment. Hoping it spreads to the growth medium. I have the rest of the pieces wrapped in tin foil in the fridge until I find out what to do with them

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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Despencer]
    #28009142 - 10/21/22 11:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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I am aware, this is not high end standard




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