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Flying with spores, grain and shroons
#28007734 - 10/20/22 11:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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If I have to fly into Miami and then onward to San Francisco would I have problems if I had a jar of inoculated grains? And while we're on the subject if I had some dried shrooms just a small amount?
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: chascomus] 4
#28007751 - 10/20/22 11:28 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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You’re asking if it’s illegal or a bad idea to bring fucking drugs on a plane? Are ya stupid?
And to be even more stupid bringing likely manufacturing or cultivation of shrooms onto a plane?
Edited by Screwup (10/20/22 11:29 AM)
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: Screwup] 2
#28007769 - 10/20/22 11:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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LOL. Bringing spores/dried shrooms is risky, but possible for sure. Inoculated grains though? What the fuck would you tell TSA?
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: joze] 2
#28007771 - 10/20/22 11:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Mailing yourself a spore print in an envelope is a much better option.
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: chascomus]
#28007775 - 10/20/22 11:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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chascomus said: If I have to fly into Miami and then onward to San Francisco would I have problems if I had a jar of inoculated grains? And while we're on the subject if I had some dried shrooms just a small amount?
personally, id say no problem for the dried mushrooms, but thats me. I don't advise to do so. if grains were in a bag or a jar, checked in .. well.. could work but personally i wouldnt..
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: joze] 3
#28007780 - 10/20/22 12:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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“Oh damn, so that’s where I left my old bird seed. Aww fuck, it’s all like moldy or something.”
A foil print in between the pages of a book is probably doable. But I personally wouldn’t do it. Just mail the spores. Everything else I would recommend specifically against.
This may be a better topic for the safety/security forum
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: Egon_Spengler] 1
#28007818 - 10/20/22 12:44 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I fly with personal chocolates squares pretty regularly..like 2-3, not enough to hand out. I find a candy bar the same size/shape as the squares I'm bringing along, carefully open them, pull the switcharoo and glue the packaging back shut, then put that in a bag with some other various candies. Put that bag in my carryon and send it through the xray machine. Never had an issue with it, but if I did I'd volunteer to throw the bag away so I can catch my flight.
If you're bringing spores with you, assuming to share with someone, just mail them. Same goes for spawn. Carefully package it up and ship it via USPS
edit: I got my facts backwards. Thankfully some other people were paying closer attention than I was!
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bigfootscreepyuncl said: If you're bringing spores with you, assuming to share with someone, just mail them. Same goes for spawn. Just carefully package it up and ship it through UPS. FedEx breaks fucking everything and USPS can look in your packages if they want
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What are you talking about? USPS is the safest way to ship anything. They need to obtain a search warrant to open any First-Class mail. From USPS:
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First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mail piece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
UPS and Fedex, on the other hand, can open your shit at their will, because they're a private company.
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FedEx breaks fucking everything and USPS can look in your packages if they want
my understanding is that UPS and FEDEX can open your packages for any reason but USPS needs probable cause. correct me if im wrong
anyway, OP, if youre really asking "is it a problem to take illegal items on a plane" the answer is "if they find it and recognize it yes. if not, no"
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: bakedbeings] 1
#28007830 - 10/20/22 12:59 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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bakedbeings said: UPS and FEDEX can open your packages for any reason but USPS needs probable cause to open a suspicious package.
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: bakedbeings]
#28007831 - 10/20/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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joze said:
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bigfootscreepyuncl said: If you're bringing spores with you, assuming to share with someone, just mail them. Same goes for spawn. Just carefully package it up and ship it through UPS. FedEx breaks fucking everything and USPS can look in your packages if they want
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What are you talking about? USPS is the safest way to ship anything. They need to obtain a search warrant to open any First-Class mail. From USPS:
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First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mail piece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
UPS and Fedex, on the other hand, can open your shit at their will, because they're a private company.
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bakedbeings said:
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FedEx breaks fucking everything and USPS can look in your packages if they want
my understanding is that UPS and FEDEX can open your packages for any reason but USPS needs probable cause. correct me if im wrong
anyway, OP, if youre really asking "is it a problem to take illegal items on a plane" the answer is "if they find it and recognize it yes. if not, no"
Good catch guys, sorry, I got my shit backwards Thanks for sorting that out. I'll edit my post
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spores aren’t even illegal to have (for the most part) & TSA has all but stated they aren’t looking for anything that isn’t gonna compromise the safety of a flight, including drugs & shit. they can’t SAY they don’t care about you flying with drugs… but it is incredibly implied. i promise you unless they see a jar full of mushrooms in your bag, they don’t fuckin care. LSD in tinfoil in a wallet, mushrooms crushed up in tea bags, hell i’ve known people who fly with straight flower. the risk is still on you, but god damn they aren’t calling the cops to come arrest you at the airport for having a tiny piece of tinfoil with some purple dust on it lol. a small jar of grains isn’t gonna set off any alarms, & if you shake it before the flight it’s not even gonna look moldy. just say you made some fermented oats or some shit if they stop you. most people barely know mushrooms are a drug, let alone what mushroom spawn looks like. & if they do? oh, it’s lions mane!
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this is very untrue. USPS is actually the only one that needs a warrant to open your shit & that’s only if they have reasonable suspicion something is illegal in there. UPS & FedEx can open your shit whenever they want for whatever reason they want because they are private companies & you give up your right to privacy with your package by using them. USPS has to respect your privacy to an extent, & they are so slammed that unless you sent an unsealed pound of weed through the mail you probably aren’t getting caught. they aren’t gonna open up your letter with a spore print in it (in the US spore prints generally aren’t even illegal) or bust open your package of a jar of grains & then have a lab test it to see if it’s psilocybin spawn. there’s a reason the dark net markets & shit exclusively use USPS priority mail (not next day, the normal 2-3 priority). not that i *recommend* doing illegal shit, but USPS is ironically by far the safest way to do it.
edit: y’all beat me to it but yeah USPS or bust for anything. the other companies suck anyways even if your shit ISN’T illegal
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: hazyhorse]
#28007835 - 10/20/22 01:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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hazyhorse said: spores aren’t even illegal to have (for the most part) & TSA has all but stated they aren’t looking for anything that isn’t gonna compromise the safety of a flight, including drugs & shit. they can’t SAY they don’t care about you flying with drugs… but it is incredibly implied. i promise you unless they see a jar full of mushrooms in your bag, they don’t fuckin care. LSD in tinfoil in a wallet, mushrooms crushed up in tea bags, hell i’ve known people who fly with straight flower. the risk is still on you, but god damn they aren’t calling the cops to come arrest you at the airport for having a tiny piece of tinfoil with some purple dust on it lol. a small jar of grains isn’t gonna set off any alarms, & if you shake it before the flight it’s not even gonna look moldy. just say you made some fermented oats or some shit if they stop you. most people barely know mushrooms are a drug, let alone what mushroom spawn looks like. & if they do? oh, it’s lions mane!
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bigfootscreepyuncl said: USPS can look in your packages if they want
this is very untrue. USPS is actually the only one that needs a warrant to open your shit & that’s only if they have reasonable suspicion something is illegal in there. UPS & FedEx can open your shit whenever they want for whatever reason they want because they are private companies & you give up your right to privacy with your package by using them. USPS has to respect your privacy to an extent, & they are so slammed that unless you sent an unsealed pound of weed through the mail you probably aren’t getting caught. they aren’t gonna open up your letter with a spore print in it (in the US spore prints generally aren’t even illegal) or bust open your package of a jar of grains & then have a lab test it to see if it’s psilocybin spawn. there’s a reason the dark net markets & shit exclusively use USPS priority mail (not next day, the normal 2-3 priority). not that i *recommend* doing illegal shit, but USPS is ironically by far the safest way to do it.
edit: y’all beat me to it but yeah USPS or bust for anything. the other companies suck anyways even if your shit ISN’T illegal
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: chris77] 1
#28007845 - 10/20/22 01:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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yes ok guys creepy already conceded we can stop freaking out 
regarding the legality of spores it depends where you are flying. just look up local laws
whether the TSA gives a shit is not something i would even consider. you could always get searched by a true believer. "dont wear loose clothes and stand close to the machine." i fly internationally with illegal substances often. im just saying make it look good. dont roll up a baggie in your sock. pulverize it and put it in an empty jar with an herbal medicine label or something. make it so someone could pick it up, look straight at it, and be convinced its something legal
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: bakedbeings]
#28007854 - 10/20/22 01:28 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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i was saying TSA doesn’t give a shit more in the sense that they don’t have the Mushroom Finder 5000 X-ray Machine that can telepathically scan your thoughts to see if you were thinking about flying with drugs
like you said, just hide it well & make it look plausibly legal. of course they’re gonna get the police involved if they come across some obviously sketchy shit in your bag
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: hazyhorse]
#28007859 - 10/20/22 01:33 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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i usually fly with cannabis oil and i just fill up a dropper bottle with its own label, something herbal or homeopathic, and stick it in a bag in plain view with my other meds and supps. nobody looks twice at it, instead they examine the rest of my stuff to see if theres anything "hidden"
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: bakedbeings]
#28007879 - 10/20/22 01:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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that’s money right there. i’ve had good luck with crushing mushrooms into powder & putting them in tea bags. no one looks twice.
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons (moved) [Re: chascomus]
#28007889 - 10/20/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: A security topic.
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#28009539 - 10/21/22 03:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I would put it in checked baggage - liquids aren't allowed on carryon so a jar might be looked at a bit more. Either way, the chance that they would think it's illegal if they found it is very low - I doubt they have ever made a spawn bust on a domestic flight.
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: hazyhorse]
#28020255 - 10/27/22 08:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Well now that you all freak me out I'll have to think all of this out... But as you just mentioned I was thinking I would just shake the oats so you can't see anything growing on them.... And at that point they just look like a dietary need. And I'm not going to tell him that they are inoculated and then if they open them oh well I'll throw it away. But because I'm coming from overseas I can't send anything by mail cuz this country has a suck postal service. My whole problem is I don't want to lose my spores that I've been growing and passing on to other grain jars successfully....
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: chascomus]
#28020259 - 10/27/22 08:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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well you SHOULD be worried- you’re doing very illegal things & getting caught wouldn’t be fun. but yeah, spores & grain shouldn’t raise any red flags. good luck friend
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Re: Flying with spores, grain and shroons [Re: hazyhorse] 1
#28020270 - 10/27/22 08:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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If the grains are fully colonized you can just put them into whatever container you want no need to keep them in the jar. They're fully colonized. Sterility goes out the window at that point. Throw them in a baggie or a vitamin jar of some sort. No chance of breaking a jar that way and you can disguise them a little better.
International you may have to deal with customs and such. I'd toss them at the first bit of resistance but I wouldn't bother with the glass jar...I wouldn't bother with *any* of this if it were me, but if I were to do it that would be my suggestion
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International you may have to deal with customs and such. I'd toss them at the first bit of resistance but I wouldn't bother with the glass jar...I wouldn't bother with *any* of this if it were me, but if I were to do it that would be my suggestion
international just increases the risk... usually you'll have to go thru customs, and the searched are quite a bit more intense.. I'd just mail whatever you're looking to bring with you.. it's not worth the risk.
It may be a small chance of getting caught, but if, God forbid, it does happen... it will be a shittt situation overall.
I personally wouldn't take an international flight with anything on me or in my luggage.. mail it or forget it.
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