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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28005200 - 10/18/22 05:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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The gauges are not accurate. :shrug:



My rocker starts moving at like 15.5 psi as per the gauge. Now I don’t know actually how accurate it is, but I think that’s gotta be pretty close. I put a 5 peso coin on top and it rocks at 17 by the gauge on the money, pun intended. I figure if I were to go by the gauge exclusively going forward, I’d have a pretty good idea where safety lies.

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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28005204 - 10/18/22 05:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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The gauges are not accurate. :shrug:



My rocker starts moving at like 15.5 psi as per the gauge. Now I don’t know actually how accurate it is, but I think that’s gotta be pretty close. I put a 5 peso coin on top and it rocks at 17 by the gauge on the money, pun intended. I figure if I were to go by the gauge exclusively going forward, I’d have a pretty good idea where safety lies.



Mine varries from run to run. I just do what the manual said and aim for the weight to jiggle around 3 times every minute


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #28005211 - 10/18/22 05:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Ah fair enough. Rocker is definitely accurate anyway. I used it with 3 quarters for months, but now that I see how set and forget the rocker is I don’t know that I’ll be going back.

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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28005267 - 10/18/22 06:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Ah fair enough. Rocker is definitely accurate anyway. I used it with 3 quarters for months, but now that I see how set and forget the rocker is I don’t know that I’ll be going back.



Yeah, I never got why people had to babysit their PC until a recent conversation I saw on here about added weights.

I mean, I don't leave the PC on and go out but I'll go about w/e other shit I gotta do. If it's gonna blow up I'll hear the rocker going fucking nuts before it gets to critical.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28005289 - 10/18/22 06:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

if it was gonna blow up i don’t think the weight would rock at all, no? unless you had a shit ton of quarters taped to the top. i was under the impression that most pressure cooker accidents were because all of the possible route for steam/pressure to escape were blocked


i had been wondering the same thing bakedbeings was wondering about reaching pressure & all that. i have an IR temp gun & figured the outside of the pot has to be around 250f if the inside is. had to add some electrical tape so the gun could actually read the temperature on the side of the pot (metals fuck up the temp guns & make them read incorrectly) & now after the vent i just use that to check if it’s at 250f before lowering heat rather than playing the guessing game of “am i at pressure????”


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
    #28005298 - 10/18/22 06:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure the pot will get hotter than the water. The pot is technically the heat source for the water, it's not quite like having something in a water bath and being sure it will only reach the temp of the water.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28005304 - 10/18/22 06:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

right, i doubt it's 100% accurate to the temp inside bc it'll sometimes be slightly above 250f but only by a few degrees, but i've been doing this for my past few PC runs now & haven't experienced any contamination on my agar plates or in my jars during storage for a week +. i used to just set a timer for 25 minutes because i was unsure of how to tell if i was at pressure with the added weight. it still makes all the same noises as when i used to let it get to pressure, but now i'm finding i can give it a lot less time & it still seems to be at pressure. the temp stays pretty consistent with the heat on high or low, whether i've let it build pressure for 20+ minutes or not etc. so i think it's working


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28005343 - 10/18/22 07:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm I never even considered the benefit of letting it rock and regulate pressure on its own and being able to leave the kitchen for longer periods of time. I think I'll do my next run without added weights just to see if it becomes white noise.

I'm not trying to keep this thread on track at all, but these temp/heat source questions might be good in P9s autoclave experiment thread. By all means keep discussing it here, I genuinely don't know the answers to these questions so I find it interesting, but this seems like the kind of thing he'd have an exact answer for lol.

It does feel a little sketchy taping extra weight to the rocker. I think I'll start playing by the rules..well, instructions. @SirPsycho are you adding the extra quart of water as per Prestos directions? Just don't want to run dry


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #28005379 - 10/18/22 07:25 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

p9 would def be the dude to answer that question. it's been working for me so i don't feel the need to get to the bottom of it personally, but it would be good to know if it's sound practice or not for the sake of knowledge

the quarter mod on the weight does sound sketchy, but people on here have been doing it for years & unless someone died & couldn't post that their PC exploded... i don't think anyone's PC has exploded from it. pretty sure it only increases it to like 17-19psi if you don't overdo it, but of course it's always better safe than sorry when dealing with pressure like that. gotta do what gives you peace of mind

sorry, i know you weren't asking me directly but i'm just curious. do you micromanage the PC while it's going? i have the added weights & just set it to low (like 3 or so on my electric stove) after it hits pressure & have never had to watch or baby it as it was going. i just set a timer & go about my business until it's done. if doing grains i add the extra quart (even with the added weight) bc more water isn't really gonna hurt anything & i'm paranoid of letting it go dry, but with setting it down to low heat i have plenty of water left over after


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28005422 - 10/18/22 07:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I think the worst part about it is that I don't *have* to babysit but if I don't check on it every 5 minutes I have a panic attack lol. After the vent cycle I let it climb to about 17psi on the gauge then drop the heat to about '7' on my gas range. It takes a small amount of tuning initially, bouncing between like '7.05' and '7.15' on my stove, but after about 10 minutes of monitoring it's pretty much automatic. For me is more about my own anxiety than it is that my PC fluctuates. Granted, this is all with 2 quarters on the jiggle weight. I'd love to get an electric autoclave/PC so I can truly forget about it but that's way out of my budget..


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28005429 - 10/18/22 07:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm using an All American and I honestly can't remember what the instructions said about water levels.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28005432 - 10/18/22 07:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

ahhh yeah i understand the paranoia. it took me awhile to just let the PC do its thing. i think part of it is just learning to let go lol. an electric AA would be fucking SWEET but yeah, i think money is better spent elsewhere for me right now lol.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28005493 - 10/18/22 08:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

What's been most helpful for me is figuring out the exact stove setting I want to achieve steady pressure once everything is up to speed, and just starting there from the outset. Once everything comes to pressure, I can turn it down a bit if it seems to be running high (the density of the contents still varies, as do things like ambient temperature).

Once I've gotten it set after that long warm-up period, I feel pretty comfortable leaving it until the alarm on my phone sounds. I feel 100 percent comfortable just sort of puttering around, and randomly walking past the stove.

My rockers are heavily weighted, to sit steady at 17 psi, and I rely on the pressure gauges for timing (turn off after 2 hours at or above 17)

I don't even wanna talk about the collateral damage that ocurred on my journey to this point.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: B Traven]
    #28006574 - 10/19/22 02:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Son of a bitch I just checked my PC after I’ve had it for like 6 months and it’s pitting. Can this be also caused my metal jar lids and not properly cleaning after use? It’s in a ring shape so I’d imagine it didn’t help.

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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: Screwup]
    #28006717 - 10/19/22 04:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Son of a bitch I just checked my PC after I’ve had it for like 6 months and it’s pitting. Can this be also caused my metal jar lids and not properly cleaning after use? It’s in a ring shape so I’d imagine it didn’t help.




Assuming you're talking about using lids to raise your trivet: I switched to crushed aluminum cans, resting bottom-side down, and have noticed significantly less discoloration and wear. I also only use plastic storage lids at this point, so there's really nothing inside the unit that could rust. The canner that I bought after fully implementing these changes looks 100% better. The older one still works fine, but there's definitely pitting and discoloration.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28006720 - 10/19/22 04:46 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I like using my 1/2 pint jars to lift the trivet out of the water. Just put them in top-side-up, fill them with water (and the rest of the PC obviously), burp the air bubble underneath them and go. They're the perfect height so the trivet is just above water line when you're using 3 quarts. Glass is inert so it won't rust, but I guess if somehow one of them broke during the run that could cause some headaches


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: B Traven]
    #28006734 - 10/19/22 04:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Son of a bitch I just checked my PC after I’ve had it for like 6 months and it’s pitting. Can this be also caused my metal jar lids and not properly cleaning after use? It’s in a ring shape so I’d imagine it didn’t help.




Assuming you're talking about using lids to raise your trivet: I switched to crushed aluminum cans, resting bottom-side down, and have noticed significantly less discoloration and wear. I also only use plastic storage lids at this point, so there's really nothing inside the unit that could rust. The canner that I bought after fully implementing these changes looks 100% better. The older one still works fine, but there's definitely pitting and discoloration.



Yeah Ive been using the jar lids to raise the trivet. If I’m not mistaken if the canner is pitting you shouldn’t use it right? I’m already mentally preparing to buy another one just wanna make sure. I think I’ll start using the cans like you or the half pint jars like the other guy said as I’ve got so many of em lmao.

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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: Screwup] * 1
    #28006860 - 10/19/22 06:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I just finished christening my new PC. Sterilized my tools for 25 minutes at 15psi without added weight on the jiggler. I've gotta say that it is much easier to maintain 15psi without the extra weight. I'll just have to crank some tunes when I run it without added weights in the future because that noise bothers me lol.

All in all, the new PC performed as expected, it's just a shame I had to buy it in the first place. You better believe it's getting dumped and dried out before going back on its shelf!


Also for anyone interested: one thing that is good practice for PC maintenance is to regularly lubricate the sealing gasket. I use food grade silicon lube to keep the gasket from drying out and cracking. Every 4-5 runs I'll give it a quick greasing and when I'm done with the PC I'll store the gasket in a ziplock bag. Given the content of my OP I can see why you wouldn't want to take advice from me but it is a good thing to do.


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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #28006867 - 10/19/22 06:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Given the content of my OP I can see why you wouldn't want to take advice from me but it is a good thing to do.



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Re: Take care of your shit and it will take care of you [Re: bakedbeings]
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