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First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along
#28005929 - 10/19/22 07:18 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi everyone!This is my first time growing any kind of mushrooms or really getting into mycology as a hobby, so I'm posting updates on how I'm doing so new growers such as myself can grow along and maybe prevent some of the mistakes I'm bound to make.Info About my GrowVariety: Rusty Whyte (RW)First inocculation method: Spore Print to AgarFirst inocculation date: 18/10/2022TEK I'll be using / have used: No Pour Agar TEK (To make the agar plates/jars using PGT's 123 Agar Recipe with Potato Flakes and Honey / Broke Boi Tek (also explained in PGT's youtube playlist here but STILL DECIDING may be going with PF Tek instead using the agar slurry tek18/10 - After I've poured 2 agar plates, I've inoculated one of them inside of a SAB using a sterilized blade to scrape some spores onto it and left the other without spores to be used as a transfer plate later. (WILL MAKE MORE PLATES IN THE FUTURE I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY AVAILABLE ATM) PS: I call them plates but I'm aware they are jars, as I didn't have access to petri dishes I've used small 140ml jars as plates and will refer to them as such throughout the post.  19/10 - As I was checking on the jars for condensation I realised the inoculated jar had a bit of a water deposit going around as I tilted it, so I turned the jars upside down (as you can see in 18/10's picture) Video HereI will keep updating this post as I see change and proceed in my grow, thanks for the read!
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Edited by m0lly (10/19/22 01:53 PM)
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28005952 - 10/19/22 07:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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so just so i understand you are going to steam rice and inoculate it with agar? rice can be a pain to shake (be sure not to over-hydrate it) and a pressure cooker is pretty fundamental but props to you for starting with agar
you will definitely want to do a lot more agar. glad mini rounds work great as plates
might as well mention that PGTs 123 agar recipe was evidently ripped from munchausen
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006019 - 10/19/22 08:23 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, that’s what I think I’m going to do, either that or with popcorn, would you suggest any other method for a complete beginner?
Also I didn’t know that, when I’m at the computer I’ll edit my post after I check out what you said about the agar recipe
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly] 1
#28006040 - 10/19/22 08:37 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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the best advice is to buy a PC. if you want to grow mushrooms its the soundest investment you can make
if you absolutely cant, steamed brown rice is your best bet. ive done it, would never do it again, but as long as you make sure to rinse the starch off, dont overcook it or over-hydrate it, it will do the job
rye, wheat, birdseed, millet, and oats are the standard grains for bulk growing, but you need a PC for those
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006104 - 10/19/22 09:18 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I’m trying the rice, not in a financial position to buy a PC yet, thanks for the advice anyway
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006132 - 10/19/22 09:41 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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theres a link in my sig that might interest you then
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006148 - 10/19/22 09:49 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would I be able to colonized agar for brf tek cakes?
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006175 - 10/19/22 10:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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technically yes but not really. would make more sense to use agar to make liquid culture and use that for pf tek
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006185 - 10/19/22 10:10 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think what I’m going to do is actually switch out the rice for popcorn in my original idea and just cut up the agar pieces and dump em inside
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly] 1
#28006211 - 10/19/22 10:31 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you arent going to use a PC i would definitely recommend rice over popcorn
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006238 - 10/19/22 10:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wouldn’t steam sterilizing work? One hour and a half on the stove
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006288 - 10/19/22 11:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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m0lly said: Wouldn’t steam sterilizing work? One hour and a half on the stove
steam sterilizing grain is just a shit concept in general. in order to achieve the penetration of a PC you have to go for like 8 hours. 2 hours kinda works for rice but rice has other downsides. relatively expensive, not very shakeable. definitely not a good idea for corn. to your point about not being able to afford a PC ask yourself how much stinky grain you can afford to toss out
with no PC the trusted teks available involve: PF agar LC bottle teks similar to PF
you are welcome to try whatever you want im just giving you a fair warning. ive done broke boi and i got some fruits. but if i lost my PC i would do PF or bottle teks
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings] 1
#28006293 - 10/19/22 11:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, I trust what you said I guess I’m just gonna have faith in god hahaha
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006335 - 10/19/22 11:38 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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m0lly said: Alright, I trust what you said I guess I’m just gonna have faith in god hahaha
I'd rather have faith in a pc. Seriously, going from steam sterilising to pc sterilising completely changes the game. No more guesswork, no more throwing out jars of contaminated grains. You can buy a cheap pc practically anywhere. Wouldn't hurt to hit up local charity/thrift shops. I bought a pc for less than £40 and its made me kilos of healthy mush. A pc is one of the best things you can buy, probably even cheaper than a kit if you find a good deal.
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006339 - 10/19/22 11:39 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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bakedbeings said:
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m0lly said: Wouldn’t steam sterilizing work? One hour and a half on the stove
steam sterilizing grain is just a shit concept in general. in order to achieve the penetration of a PC you have to go for like 8 hours. 2 hours kinda works for rice but rice has other downsides. relatively expensive, not very shakeable. definitely not a good idea for corn. to your point about not being able to afford a PC ask yourself how much stinky grain you can afford to toss out
with no PC the trusted teks available involve: PF agar LC bottle teks similar to PF
you are welcome to try whatever you want im just giving you a fair warning. ive done broke boi and i got some fruits. but if i lost my PC i would do PF or bottle teks
If I lost my pc, I'd buy another.
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: HappinessStan]
#28006351 - 10/19/22 11:46 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Two issues with that, no money and also I live with relatives who are almost on to what I’m doing, if they see a pressure cooker pop up out of nowhere it’s going to raise suspicion, but I will definitely look into buying one in the future, just not atm
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006382 - 10/19/22 12:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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im always stoked to see a noob doing agar but PF TEK is for you. its the only kind of growing that i would consider hideable
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006389 - 10/19/22 12:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The actual spawning to bulk part I'll do at my grandmother's house, but still have to figure it out
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: m0lly]
#28006449 - 10/19/22 01:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: First Time Growing - Rusty Whyte Grow Along [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006484 - 10/19/22 01:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Question, if I was to do PF Tek, instead of half pint jars could I use a normal sized jar (not really a quart jar since in my countries jars don’t have those mesurements but close to it) and just have bigger cakes?
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