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Re: How is this looking? [Re: Awestruck] 1
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Newb question, but does anyone have any advice for a first timer on how and when to harvest this variety?
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Just got home, I thought I would have more time until harvest so perhaps a little to mature. Thanks everyone for all the great advice. Especially bakedbeings and awestruck, I hope this forum remains the amazing resource it is for beginners like me.
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Imho, you didn't wait too long.
Harvest after veils tear. It looks like you caught them before they dropped spores. All your caps would be dusted with dark spores if you waited longer. If you're ever concerned you waited too long, cut one open and make sure there's no rot.
I've read that the fruits continue to gain a little more mass after the veils tear, but not necessarily generate more active ingredients. So chop 'em when they're ready and reset for your next flush.
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Awesome, thanks @boristhespider. I currently have over half my shrooms in dyhdrator but that is chock full. Should I keep the rest in the fridge until I can get them drying?
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Thanks a full harvest! Congrats on the success!
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Store freshies in a brown paper bag in the fridge for a couple days.
To dry them pretty quick w/o heat, put a box fan or smaller fan on them in a big wire strainer so they get plenty of airflow. They dry pretty quick that way. Then on to whatever long term storage you plan to do...or just eat em.
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To dry them pretty quick w/o heat, put a box fan or smaller fan on them in a big wire strainer so they get plenty of airflow. They dry pretty quick that way. Then on to whatever long term storage you plan to do...or just eat em.
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@BakedBeings-Are you saying it's a bad idea to dry a harvest without heat? Or the quick part, b/c it definitely is way quicker with the heat of a dehydrator.
Using the fan does work, I don't know of the downsides other than it needing a little patience. A lot of things can work, perhaps not the best option in every situation.
I'm still quite new to all this. I'm eager to learn and share, when I can.
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fan drying just gets the fruit to the ambient moisture level, not 100% dry. and it takes a while to even do that
best practice is dehydration at 160-170 F (whatever your max setting is. you want to get rid of the water completely and quickly
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BorisTheSpider said: Are you saying it's a bad idea to dry a harvest without heat?
Using the fan does work
I did a side by side test. I went to costco and bought 2 matching brown baby bella 24 ounce tubs, same weight same freshness date. I built a 20x20 rack from 1x4 wood and window screen and a 20x20 box fan to sit directly on top blowing directly on the mushrooms. I sliced both packages into identical thickness slices to have same same matching test. I put one bin of mushrooms into the presto dehydrator at 120 degrees. That took just at 8 hours to get for sure cracker dry pieces. The other bin I put in the box fan dryer. The box screen with fan I had to run for 40 hours and they came out dry and made the cracking sound and snapped instead of bent, but I could tell they werent as dry as the dehydrator. Fan drying does work but at exceptionally longer time and not as fully dry. The room environment I used for this test is typically between 15 to 20 relative humidity.
In my opinion use a dehydrator for drying and if you have too many to fit all at once, put the rest in front of a fan on a wire rack till they can go into the dehydrator. That way they shrink a little and pre dry a bit too.
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I agree it would not get to 100%. I threw it out there as an idea to help process them while the dehydrator was chock full instead of going the fridge route.
@TheUsualSuspect-Cool idea with the test! Any reason you went with 120F on the dehydrator instead of higher temp range? @BakedBeings mentioned running it max heat. Do they turn out different at lower/higher temps (i.e., visually appealing, quality, etc.) versus just drying faster?
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On the presto, I think lowest setting is 90. I bumped it up some from that but was going to run some errands and leave the house in the mean time. The unit is made of plastic. I think if I set it at max, prob 160, I get concerned ill come back to the house lit on fire by some accident. Ive been in a couple really bad fires and I get extra over cautious about processes that involve heat or could end up on fire.
I probably could have run it at 160. I might have if I was going to be at the house the whole time.
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BorisTheSpider said: Are you saying it's a bad idea to dry a harvest without heat?
Using the fan does work
I did a side by side test. I went to costco and bought 2 matching brown baby bella 24 ounce tubs, same weight same freshness date. I built a 20x20 rack from 1x4 wood and window screen and a 20x20 box fan to sit directly on top blowing directly on the mushrooms. I sliced both packages into identical thickness slices to have same same matching test. I put one bin of mushrooms into the presto dehydrator at 120 degrees. That took just at 8 hours to get for sure cracker dry pieces. The other bin I put in the box fan dryer. The box screen with fan I had to run for 40 hours and they came out dry and made the cracking sound and snapped instead of bent, but I could tell they werent as dry as the dehydrator. Fan drying does work but at exceptionally longer time and not as fully dry. The room environment I used for this test is typically between 15 to 20 relative humidity.
In my opinion use a dehydrator for drying and if you have too many to fit all at once, put the rest in front of a fan on a wire rack till they can go into the dehydrator. That way they shrink a little and pre dry a bit too.
Did you weight them before and after to see what kind of loss there was? Did you then throw the box dried ones into the dehydrator at 160F to see if there was further loss?
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Re: How is this looking? [Re: Screwup]
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Did you weight them before and after to see what kind of loss there was? Did you then throw the box dried ones into the dehydrator at 160F to see if there was further loss?
I didnt care about any of that. I just wanted to know if air drying as a process was viable with my own eyes. About a hundred bucks later and a day of fabrication and testing and I know for sure. I did throw the box dried into the dehydrator for 3 hours and at that point they were as dry as the first dehydrator run.
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Sorry for the delay. Harvest from first flush was 127.6 grams
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And for what it’s worth, I used a salton dehydrator on full blast over night until they snap instead of bend. seemed to work great 👍
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Littlebird99 said: Harvest from first flush was 127.6 grams
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quite the first tub you have there - gratz
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