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Offlineleedockbass
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Tomentose Balls All Over Substrate (Pins galore!)
    #28000193 - 10/15/22 10:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

If this is in the wrong thread I apologize!

First attempt at a grow this size. I noticed slight pooling of clear slightly yellow liquid in the bottom of the spawn bag prior to moving it to bulk substrate. Decided to go ahead and mix it and this was about 9 days ago. Currently it is fully colonized and I have started FAE. However, I have noticed yellow/orange liquid on the top of the substrate with slightly more water than ideal. I have also noticed some gray-ish patches across the substrate. FAE was started about 3 days ago now, so not expecting any pinning yet but I am paranoid about contamination and wondering if I should toss this and start over.

What do you guys think? Assuming the yellow liquid is a result of the mycelium fighting off contamination should I continue to let the mycelium do so or is it better to cut losses and start over? Thank you very much for any input and again hope that this is being posted in the correct thread! Photos below:





UPDATE:
The yellowish liquid patches seem to have gone away relatively quickly and the substrate is looking better (I think?). It is starting to shrink away from the sides of the bin, which I believe is a good sign of strong mycelium growth (or lack of moisture? I am questioning everything lol)

Now it appears there is primordia forming across the substrate but I am curious to see if I need to increase FAE. My very first grow was different than a bulk grow but I remember having SUPER fuzziness going on at the stem of the fruit due to a lack of FAE photo below of first grow:



Anyways, I'm curious if this primordia is showing signs of needing more fresh air. What do you guys think? Any input is greatly appreciated and I apologize in advance.. I'm sure this question has been asked before but I am paranoid. Thank you! :smile:

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UPDATE 2:

This is 5 days after initiating fruiting conditions. I think pins will start to form eventually and not overly concerned about any contaminants at this point... I don't think. Ha. Wanted to give an update to this thread for anyone else with similar tub conditions.

I'm seeing lots and lots of small fluffy white balls all over the substrate that I believe is a mix of hyphal knots and tomentose mycelium growth. I have noticed significant shrinkage of the substrate along all sides of the tub. I have been fanning 2-3 times per day and occasionally misting although I see plenty of little tiny water droplets all over the substrate so I am trying to be careful not to over-mist. Tub is placed near window with consistent temps at 70F.

One thing that I have not mentioned yet is I did not cover the top with a layer of bulk substrate when initially mixing spawn to bulk and I am curious if maybe I introduced fruiting conditions early (seeing "100%" colonization when in realty the top colonized first and the rest of the sub was still a little behind). Not sure what repercussions this could have/may have had on this grow but thought I would mention it. Pictures below. 





Edited by leedockbass (10/22/22 07:53 AM)

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: leedockbass] * 1
    #28000207 - 10/15/22 10:57 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yellow liquid in the bag could have been metabolites.  That and the first picture looks like it has some discoloration in spots.  Both of these can be signs of contamination.
That being said it looks like you have some knots going so you should be seeing primordia soon.
You will probably get some fruits out of that if you let it run.  Isolate from other tubs to avoid spreading the contamination. 
Good luck out there.

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: leedockbass]
    #28000254 - 10/15/22 11:28 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:goodluck:

I Like seeing the new folk gettin it done!
Welcome.

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: leedockbass]
    #28000264 - 10/15/22 11:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like it wants to fruit. Maybe isolate this tub away from your grow room. But I wouldn't toss it.

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: MagicMan90]
    #28000435 - 10/15/22 01:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you! I will let it continue and see what happens. I will make sure to separate it from other growing equipment. :smile:

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: MagicMan90]
    #28000440 - 10/15/22 02:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MagicMan90 said:
Yellow liquid in the bag could have been metabolites.  That and the first picture looks like it has some discoloration in spots.  Both of these can be signs of contamination.
That being said it looks like you have some knots going so you should be seeing primordia soon.
You will probably get some fruits out of that if you let it run.  Isolate from other tubs to avoid spreading the contamination. 
Good luck out there.




Thank you for the advice. I had a feeling it was some sort of contamination. I will isolate it from all other growing equipment! Thanks again

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Re: First Tub Attempt - Should I toss it? [Re: Jaksavage]
    #28001524 - 10/16/22 08:45 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you! :smile:
Quote:

Jaksavage said:
:goodluck:

I Like seeing the new folk gettin it done!
Welcome.

:hi:




Thank you!

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UPDATE 2 [Re: leedockbass]
    #28004354 - 10/18/22 08:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

UPDATE 2:

This is 5 days after initiating fruiting conditions. I think pins will start to form eventually and not overly concerned about any contaminants at this point... I don't think. Ha. Wanted to give an update to this thread for anyone else with similar tub conditions.

I'm seeing lots and lots of small fluffy white balls all over the substrate that I believe is a mix of hyphal knots and tomentose mycelium growth. I have noticed significant shrinkage of the substrate along all sides of the tub. I have been fanning 2-3 times per day and occasionally misting although I see plenty of little tiny water droplets all over the substrate so I am trying to be careful not to over-mist. Tub is placed near window with consistent temps at 70F.

One thing that I have not mentioned yet is I did not cover the top with a layer of bulk substrate when initially mixing spawn to bulk and I am curious if maybe I introduced fruiting conditions early (seeing "100%" colonization when in realty the top colonized first and the rest of the sub was still a little behind). Not sure what repercussions this could have/may have had on this grow but thought I would mention it. Pictures below. 



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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: leedockbass]
    #28004368 - 10/18/22 08:46 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

stop fanning


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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28004887 - 10/18/22 03:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I've also heard to increase fanning amount. This hobby is so confusing lol!

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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: leedockbass] * 1
    #28004906 - 10/18/22 03:25 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

fanning is an outdated practice. at no point is there any reason to fan anything. mycelium benefits from passive airflow


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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28005206 - 10/18/22 05:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Good to know! Thank you!

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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28006089 - 10/19/22 09:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

First full day of not fanning and I'm seeing pins!


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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: leedockbass]
    #28006157 - 10/19/22 09:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Delicious. Make sure to kiss them good night.

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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: Screwup]
    #28006190 - 10/19/22 10:17 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Screwup said:
Delicious. Make sure to kiss them good night.





And sing to them.

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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: Bajazly] * 1
    #28010336 - 10/22/22 07:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I think I got lucky with genetics because even with all my mistakes these seem to be loving it. Really happy with how this is looking for my first tub.


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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: leedockbass]
    #28010347 - 10/22/22 08:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

leedockbass said:
I think I got lucky with genetics because even with all my mistakes these seem to be loving it. Really happy with how this is looking for my first tub.







Looking good man, congrats!

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Re: UPDATE 2 [Re: Shrimps]
    #28010696 - 10/22/22 12:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome! look at all those little shroomies... congrats

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