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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
#28002157 - 10/16/22 06:01 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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There's a trick to it, i havent learned it yet, but ive gleaned from the last 2 weeks of posts that people have established "light overlay natalensis cultures", proofly speaken,
so now its up to "official natalensis thread" to establish that 1 myco quarts the heretic american standard, will produce 2 ounces or 56,6gs of dried natalensis from 1 myco quarts.
If it dont, its not a cube competition, according to Pasty.
11 DL of grainspawn has to produce 56,6grams of dried natalensis,
or you can just quit this thread, stop posting, stop thinking you can become a TC, that natalensis is interesting,
you're just another tard passing by.
1 mycoquart of natalensis grainspawn = 56,6gs of dried natalensis
Or you can just leave school.
you're fired. no more prints for you
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double post
thats the goal post
show us that natalensis can outperform cubes
shake up the mushroom world
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BlueAndOrange
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins]
#28002283 - 10/16/22 07:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: I've been growing them exactly like cubes.. and as far as I know, the overlay is genetic.. some cultures overlay heavily and some don't.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong )
I grow them like cubes using SFF Shoebox TEK. Never had overlay to a significant degree. I get 3oz dried fruit from a single quart of spawn.
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Did six transfers from 3 germ plates last night. Getting excited about these.
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Adas said: Does anyone else enjoy the effects but not enjoy the growing? Maybe I've had bad culture luck but the overlay pretty much prevents a good pinset, I also get Trich often and what not. It's pretty frustrating.
Sorry for the unexpected confession 
Well, from the hight of my extended experience of exactly 1 grow of nats and cubes side-by-side, I can say that I love myself some overlay and some overlay tea with ginger, yumm. Pinsetwise, was quite decent and aesthetic pleasing - pins coming out of all that pretty white cloudy overlay, dreamy - in all shoeboxes ( you can witness it in my anal and image heavy journal) Unlike Forrester, I got numerous and orderly first flush pinsets and shitier but bulkier and gnarly fruits on the rest... but they are still going... on the 4th flush as we speak.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck]
#28002485 - 10/16/22 11:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Thinking about making another run at Nats.
I'm finding it interesting that others found these less visual as I found these about on par visually. Also seems like the genetics I have are comparatively pretty low yielding (or I just suck at growing them). I did take like 30 prints from the better of the fruits so happy to prisoner swap, but curious on feedback on the above experiences, and what prints are going around might fair better genetics wise.
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Jumping on the thread to get it in my list. Read up to page 69 so far. Put some swab strands on a brf puck the other deeaaay...
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I have 15 shoeboxes of nats going. On Saturday the substrate was looking pretty colonized, but no pinning yet. Went to my girlfriend’s for a couple days and 13 of them are still barren with maybe a pin or 2 in a couple tubs, but one tub is full of fruits. These were all planted at the same time.
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LookingLurker said: Thinking about making another run at Nats.
I'm finding it interesting that others found these less visual as I found these about on par visually. Also seems like the genetics I have are comparatively pretty low yielding (or I just suck at growing them). I did take like 30 prints from the better of the fruits so happy to prisoner swap, but curious on feedback on the above experiences, and what prints are going around might fair better genetics wise.
Do it! Nats are fun!
Regarding the visuals... the other day I tried a cloned culture of mine. 2 gram and I couldn't recognize the inside of my house anymore. Visuals are different, but I do not really experience a lack of visuals. At least not with potent fruits.
Prints from potent fruits won't necessarily result in potent offspring. I suggest cloning fruits from a multisporegrow that are looking promising. With a bit of luck you'll preserve a potent and well yielding culture for the future.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor] 1
#28003982 - 10/17/22 10:26 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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my clone gave me more visuals at 2.5g than i got on 3.5g of a MS grow. it didn’t necessarily feel more potent than the 3.5g but i did notice a distinct difference in terms of visuals. very curious to try out 3.5g from that clone one of these days
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chris77
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BlueAndOrange said: I have 15 shoeboxes of nats going. On Saturday the substrate was looking pretty colonized, but no pinning yet. Went to my girlfriend’s for a couple days and 13 of them are still barren with maybe a pin or 2 in a couple tubs, but one tub is full of fruits. These were all planted at the same time.

they could be a bit suffocated? when you staple the boxes, don't the lids get more tight? mine do. i never put more than 2 on top of each other when fruiting shall begin (still ok during colonization). you could unlatch the upper row and see in a few days if that makes a difference. just a thought. whole lot of natalensis coming your way
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#28004139 - 10/18/22 03:28 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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BlueAndOrange, seeing this project of yours warms my heart. I just retired my last Nat tub... It's curious that only one of your tubs fruited so far. I assume they were all inoculated with the same culture?
Compared to the others, was there anything different with the one tub that produced fruits?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor] 1
#28004348 - 10/18/22 08:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Nothing different between them. It was all MS though. I did 15 jars of grain doing G2G. There is a second tub growing s few mushrooms but 13 are just starting to pin. I’ll spread them out and see if I stacked too high.
I had restocked them just for the pic, originally they were growing like this, and the 2 growing the most were in the top 2 on the right, which get the least light:
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BlueAndOrange said: Nothing different between them. It was all MS though. I did 15 jars of grain doing G2G. There is a second tub growing s few mushrooms but 13 are just starting to pin. I’ll spread them out and see if I stacked too high.
I had restocked them just for the pic, originally they were growing like this, and the 2 growing the most were in the top 2 on the right, which get the least light:

interesting still that the ones to fruit were on top, right? i used to own a nitrogen meter (dont ask me why but at the time it was pretty useful. it would be not too difficult to create a dataset about the correlation of CO2 an pinning/fruiting if one had such a tool..
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#28004443 - 10/18/22 09:41 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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BlueAndOrange said: Nothing different between them. It was all MS though. I did 15 jars of grain doing G2G. There is a second tub growing s few mushrooms but 13 are just starting to pin. I’ll spread them out and see if I stacked too high.
I had restocked them just for the pic, originally they were growing like this, and the 2 growing the most were in the top 2 on the right, which get the least light:

interesting still that the ones to fruit were on top, right? i used to own a nitrogen meter (dont ask me why but at the time it was pretty useful. it would be not too difficult to create a dataset about the correlation of CO2 an pinning/fruiting if one had such a tool..
The ones to fruit were the 2 farthest to the right. Both the one on top and the one on bottom. I reorganized them all 2 high today.
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BlueAndOrange said: Nothing different between them. It was all MS though. I did 15 jars of grain doing G2G. There is a second tub growing s few mushrooms but 13 are just starting to pin. I’ll spread them out and see if I stacked too high.
I had restocked them just for the pic, originally they were growing like this, and the 2 growing the most were in the top 2 on the right, which get the least light:

interesting still that the ones to fruit were on top, right? i used to own a nitrogen meter (dont ask me why but at the time it was pretty useful. it would be not too difficult to create a dataset about the correlation of CO2 an pinning/fruiting if one had such a tool..
The ones to fruit were the 2 farthest to the right. Both the one on top and the one on bottom. I reorganized them all 2 high today.
BlueAndOrange, do you just remove the shoebox lids for fruiting or do you have another method?
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You don't remove them, unlatch them or flip them.
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BlueAndOrange said: Nothing different between them. It was all MS though. I did 15 jars of grain doing G2G. There is a second tub growing s few mushrooms but 13 are just starting to pin. I’ll spread them out and see if I stacked too high.
I had restocked them just for the pic, originally they were growing like this, and the 2 growing the most were in the top 2 on the right, which get the least light:

interesting still that the ones to fruit were on top, right? i used to own a nitrogen meter (dont ask me why but at the time it was pretty useful. it would be not too difficult to create a dataset about the correlation of CO2 an pinning/fruiting if one had such a tool..
The ones to fruit were the 2 farthest to the right. Both the one on top and the one on bottom. I reorganized them all 2 high today.
BlueAndOrange, do you just remove the shoebox lids for fruiting or do you have another method?
I’ve only done one shoebox nat grow previously and I dubtubbed it. I totally neglected it for 3 flushes and got over 2 ounces dried from one quart. Was pretty happy with that.
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What's the average time people are seeing from adding spawn/substrate to shoebox to first flush?
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