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Kujilman



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My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? 1
#27992945 - 10/10/22 10:20 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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After attempting a spore syringe straight to grain jars (which ended horribly in contamination) I took everyone's advice and started working with agar and LC.
These are my first two 33qt tubs, 7 days in. How do they look to you?
Granted I only used 2 qts of nocc'd grain in each tub, instead of 4 because I didn't want to mix WBS with Rye so that I could compare how each does, side-by-side. I'll prep more jars next round.
They've been given indirect light 12/24. I figure another 10-14 days before I turn a 6500k bulb on them and go to fruit?
WBS on coir:
 
RYE on coir:

Edited by Kujilman (10/16/22 03:07 PM)
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman] 2
#27992950 - 10/10/22 10:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pics are kinda broke ๐
But lookin good! I see knotting. He'll yeah 
Edit: most of us fruit at spawn round' these parts
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Edited by cozmyc (10/10/22 10:25 PM)
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: cozmyc]
#27992972 - 10/10/22 10:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Cozmyc. Yeah, I need to figure out this whacky image-posting on the forum. 
Because of the lower grain-to-substrate ratio I figured I would give it more time to colonize before fruiting. I'm not sure if that helps, but I'm learning.
At first I was concerned about all the white fluff showing on top, but it smells great so I'm just going to let it ride and see where this goes...
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#27992975 - 10/10/22 10:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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No prob! The learning is the best part. Imo ๐
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman] 1
#27993194 - 10/11/22 06:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Welcome!
Looking good. Turn them loose, go to fruiting conditions. Keep them moist.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Jaksavage] 1
#27993199 - 10/11/22 06:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Itโs currently common practice to spawn directly to fruiting conditions.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: KROM]
#27993246 - 10/11/22 07:33 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: KROM] 1
#27993318 - 10/11/22 08:30 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay then, fruiting it is! Lights! Camera! Action!
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman] 1
#28001918 - 10/16/22 03:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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------ 14-DAY UPDATE ------ The community advice helped, and all is going well a week later.
My side-by-side test of spawning on Rye vs WBS has me leaning toward Rye. Both show some side-pins, but the WBS tub looks pretty sparse at this stage. (the coir/gypsum substrate was prepared together and then divided into two tubs prior to adding 2 Qt grain jars in each)
QUESTION - What are your thoughts - does spawning on larger grains produce bigger fruits? Or are there other factors that may explain the disparity? All 4 jars were inoculated with the same Golden Teacher LC syringe.
WBS

RYE
Edited by Kujilman (10/16/22 06:22 PM)
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman] 1
#28001990 - 10/16/22 03:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congrats!! Size and speed are mostly genetics. Compression and even surface layer will curb side pinning
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Edited by cozmyc (10/16/22 03:52 PM)
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: cozmyc]
#28002232 - 10/16/22 06:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Cozmyc. Until I saw my tubs on a shelf from the side I hadn't realized that the surface was a little bit uneven.
And I was afraid to compact the substrate so I only tamped it down with the back of my fingers. I won't be so gentle next time.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#28002236 - 10/16/22 06:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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beat it up, yo
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006141 - 10/19/22 09:46 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, 2 days later, THIS happened.  Holy shit, I need a lawnmower!
RYE:

 That's only about 2/3 of the tub.
I'll be diligent about getting at the rest of them before the caps open!
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Edited by Kujilman (10/19/22 09:48 AM)
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#28006176 - 10/19/22 10:06 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28006403 - 10/19/22 12:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congratulations ๐ถ
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#28006451 - 10/19/22 01:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kujilman said: Well, 2 days later, THIS happened.  Holy shit, I need a lawnmower!
RYE:

 That's only about 2/3 of the tub.
I'll be diligent about getting at the rest of them before the caps open!
Feels good, doesn't it? Good work, my friend.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman] 1
#28007735 - 10/20/22 11:10 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's the total first flush harvest over 2 days!
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#28007782 - 10/20/22 12:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice. but those should be in a dehydrator and not on paper towels. paper towels reduce potency, and slow drying reduces potency
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28008451 - 10/20/22 08:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Understood. My dehydrator delivers tomorrow. Until then, I have a fan on them, with a heater in the closet.
I'm curious about the paper towels. Do you know of any link or resource that details paper towels draining psilocybin out of the mushrooms? Thanks!
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: Kujilman]
#28008600 - 10/21/22 12:14 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kujilman said: Understood. My dehydrator delivers tomorrow. Until then, I have a fan on them, with a heater in the closet.
I'm curious about the paper towels. Do you know of any link or resource that details paper towels draining psilocybin out of the mushrooms? Thanks!
It's not that they drain, its that they don't dry fast enough. I'm pretty sure Baked meant that the method causes potency loss.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: schpat] 1
#28008900 - 10/21/22 07:25 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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no they actually suck actives out of the fruit. this blew my mind too. i dont have a link to a document or anything but put a fruit on a paper towel and the paper towel will get wet. guess whats in that water
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: bakedbeings] 1
#28008902 - 10/21/22 07:27 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Use an oven until your dehydrator arrives. You have quite a few immature fruit there, let them grow longer next time.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: schpat]
#28009641 - 10/21/22 04:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok thanks. Faster drying = greater potency retention.
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Re: My first tubs! Look OK after 7 days? [Re: bakedbeings]
#28009668 - 10/21/22 05:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, Baked. I've been reading through like 20 old posts that mention paper towels. Some say they are fine, others that the stains are spores, contams, just water. Very confusing. 
And those older posts about drying - man those guys would bootstrap a tek using almost anything! 
After the maintenance man left my apartment I was able to get them into the oven at low temp and start the drying. Now if that Amazon driver would just show up with my Presto dehydrator...
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