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First time grain bag
#27990818 - 10/09/22 07:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently got a 3# grain bag and have a Golden Teacher syringe on the way. Anyway, I was wondering how much I should use to inoculate, I've seen people say from 1-10ccs but I hear you can mess up the moisture content if you use the whole syringe. I'm also curious about fruiting chambers. Does it work out if you fruit in the bag or does a fruiting chamber really works better. Any tips and help would be greatly appreciated.
Edited by SmashUp (10/09/22 08:07 PM)
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SmashUp] 1
#27990828 - 10/09/22 07:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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SmashUp said: I recently got a 3# grain bag from *** and have a Golden Teacher syringe on the way from ***. Anyway, I was wondering how much I should use to inoculate, I've seen people say from 1-10ccs but I hear you can mess up the moisture content if you use the whole syringe. I'm also curious about fruiting chambers. Does it work out if you fruit in the bag or does a fruiting chamber really works better. Any tips and help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096]
#27990887 - 10/09/22 08:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've read the PF Tek before. I got the grain bag because I thought it would be easier than the PF Tek and I was ordering something anyway. If you're not supposed to use the spore syringe to inoculate grain bags what do you use?
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SmashUp]
#27990891 - 10/09/22 08:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agar or liquid culture made from clean agar
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SirPsycho]
#27990899 - 10/09/22 08:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know I said spore syringe but the website says live liquid culture. I don't know if it's made from agar or not though.
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SmashUp]
#27990905 - 10/09/22 08:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well in that case go ahead just hope both the bag and the syringe were prepped well
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SmashUp]
#27990906 - 10/09/22 08:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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How much of the culture do I use for 3lbs?
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SmashUp]
#27990991 - 10/09/22 09:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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As I understand it the general rule would be one cc per pound so in your case 3cc. I'm sure a lot of people use different perportions and no doubt someone will follow up my post telling me im wrong. In my opinion I like to go heavy. Assuming you got a 10cc syringe I would probably go 1/2 into the bag if its liquid culture and the other 1/2 into a second bag or use the second half to expand the culture in a LC jar. I know people talk about throwing off your grain jar moisture content by adding too much LC but I dont know if I have seen that to be the case. I prep 886 gram total bags (not quite 2 pounders) and hit those with 10cc of liquid culture.
If its a spore syringe you need to grow out on agar first. Liquid culture and spore syringe are two totally different things so make sure you know what you are working with. I say that because its much more common to find vendors selling spore syringes than liquid culture although both are available.
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Zero cc's spore solution I would use 1/2 if LC so you have something to fall back on if that grain bag is shit
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Buddaking]
#27991023 - 10/09/22 09:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buddaking said: Zero cc's
He said he made a mistake and it's LC not MSS.
(ig you're also gonna say 0cc untill it's tested on agar )
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096]
#27991026 - 10/09/22 09:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Naw the bag is prob got bacteria.. shoot 1/2 in it cross your fingers & hope. Then prep some Pasty plates & see if the LC is good
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096]
#27991033 - 10/09/22 09:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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a little off topic but what strain is that in your signature right hand pic buddaking?
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Curious to see how this goes. I ordered one of every flavor syringe from that company just to see what theyre working with. And well, at least the ones i recieved were dirty.
I put em on agar and there was clearly a lot of bacteria. I isolated away from the bacteria or at least i might have. After some transfer i sent some to grain. They looked okay for the most part. Then I expanded the best looking master jars.
Then damn near everything i sent to fruiting went green. So that has been my experience with em.
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096]
#27991142 - 10/09/22 10:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rusty2096 said:
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SmashUp said: I recently got a 3# grain bag and have a Golden Teacher syringe on the way from Myyco. Anyway, I was wondering how much I should use to inoculate, I've seen people say from 1-10ccs but I hear you can mess up the moisture content if you use the whole syringe. I'm also curious about fruiting chambers. Does it work out if you fruit in the bag or does a fruiting chamber really works better. Any tips and help would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome to the Shroomery.
1- Not allowed to name vendors (you can edit your post to remove names) 2- You should not use MSS to grain 3- Some reading to get you started: Read this first, then Updated PF Tek + water tub for fruiting
OP removed vendor name, but now it's in your quote (I removed it from my quote so I don't have to come back). Just sayin...
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: BoySage]
#27991422 - 10/10/22 06:57 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good catch I fixed it. But now it's in your quote of me post so... ah fuck it
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096]
#27991450 - 10/10/22 07:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dafuck is this LC syringe business?
Is that just a thing now?
Don't think any laws changed.
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: B Traven] 1
#27991464 - 10/10/22 07:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's legal in Canada. Not sure where OP lives though
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: Rusty2096] 2
#27991477 - 10/10/22 07:47 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not legal. It's unenforced, subtle but important difference.
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Re: First time grain bag [Re: SirPsycho]
#27991573 - 10/10/22 09:03 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: It's not legal. It's unenforced, subtle but important difference.
True.
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