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Luteofolius
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Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus 1
#27916655 - 08/24/22 01:13 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I wanted to showcase and document the presence of this species previously referred to as Panaeolopsis by singer.
This was found in Washington state USA. Found in August 2 years in a row so far.
I've been in contact with Alan Rockefeller in regards to this fungi, and I'm currently doing microscopy on this specimen. Dna sequencing is going to be done to confirm this species is what we think it is.
Initially I found this species last year. This year I returned and found more than I could have hoped for. Hundreds of these guys fruiting from the thatch layer of the bent grass. Habitat was a well maintained golfcourse. I will now include many photos and some of my microscopy photos that aren't exactly helpful to the cause but that's a work in progress.
I'm fairly confident that this will turn out to be a new species of psilocybin active fungi because I have been finding pins exhibiting blue bruising. π
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fahtster
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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: Luteofolius]
#27917523 - 08/25/22 01:47 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Neat! Is the bruising not prominent? Can you really rough one up to get an idea of how much they bruise?
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Luteofolius
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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: fahtster]
#27917771 - 08/25/22 07:34 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Probably could do that, given there is more to find. I don't think they bruise very much other than on the stype base, similar to Panaeolus cinctulus This species is one that only fruits for a few days in this location. I did notice that they were only bruising on the base of the stype, and very seldom at that. Meaning that not everyone I found did that.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: Luteofolius]
#27923968 - 08/29/22 11:47 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Let me know when you get ITS sequence data, we can do a quick zoom call so I can show you how I process the .ab1 files into corrected sequences, build a phylogenetic tree and get the data into Genbank so it shows up on other people's BLAST searches. If you haven't done so already, make an iNaturalist or Mushroom Observer observation so there's a permanent record we can link the Genbank sequence to.
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Luteofolius
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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: fahtster] 1
#27957840 - 09/19/22 06:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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They don't bruise blue from what I see when damaged. But the mycelium does at the base of the stype when picked.
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Mead

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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: Luteofolius] 1
#27987352 - 10/07/22 11:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Cool, interested to see what yall find out. Are you thinking that it's a new species of panaeolus instead of being panaeolopsis? Or that what Singer called panaeolopsis should be panaeolus? and/or that they're potentially psychoactive?
I used to find some panaeolopsis mushrooms when I would hunt cinctulus back in the day, in NY. Some of the young ones would bruise blue at the base. Can see here(barely, early 2000s digi cams weren't great) pictured alongside a cinctulus(second from the left.)
 Larger ones with cinctulus on the right.

Looking forward to hearing what comes of this. Thanks for sharing.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Panaeolopsis: or new species of Panaeolus [Re: Mead] 1
#27989671 - 10/09/22 07:49 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mead said: Are you thinking that it's a new species of panaeolus instead of being panaeolopsis? Or that what Singer called panaeolopsis should be panaeolus? and/or that they're potentially psychoactive?
What used to be called Panaeolopsis is really Panaeolus. They are psychoactive.
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Mead

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Thank you sir. For the last 15+ years I had been looking the other way and turning my nose up at them after people here said they were panaeolus campanulatus. Though the image of them has always stuck with me, very unique. We've come a long way, many thanks to you for your dedication and diligence!
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